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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: soap-critic

Bavie aren't 99% of the astrological interpretations done by males? And it is always done from the point of view of how favorable it will be to the man.

SC, Men or woman.....if you are a good astrologer.......... you are not suppose to lie or twist.......... then why blame the astrologer alone.............compromise according to our society is done by woman......it always has been like that...even now.......... so what if the astrologer tells in favour of men why blame him alone.......it is man's world........ look at DM he runs the village.......................... if woman do watever they want they are called a name( Wait dont let your imagination run wild....😆😉.. all i meant was "VAMP"😉)...........if man does whatever he wants he is called Hot...........thats just retarded...............
Khemi being a 'mangal doshi' will not be able to get married for 6 years. On the other hand, if it was that Mahesh dude (the bhaagedu dulha) who was had the same affliction in his kundali, his parents would have gone ahead with the marraige anyway. I wonder if they would have even mentioned it to nanaji.
I Bet !😡
I think the way it goes is 'mangal doshi' = death of spouse. So they are looking after their son's well being. If the scenario was reversed Khemi could die and so what? They would just get another girl and get their son remarried.
yep yep bang on..........what are you doing online haan ?

Edited by Sati - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Yup Bavie, so much stupidity with this kundalis and charts. A mangal in a gilr's kundali is harmful to the would be husband (not all, so it depends on the would be husband's kundali too).

In some cases, it's not bad as long as the girl fasts on so many tuesdays. Ofcourse, once again, it's the woman who has the bear the grunt. The guy has to suffer nothing. A very biased notion. A woman fasting will cure any dosha's in their lives. What does a man have to do? Nothing, zilch, nada. 😡

As Hemaben rightly points out. It is a male's point of view and how favorable it is to them.

Chokri ka kya? Woh toh ek kone pe padi rahegi!! 😡😡
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Don't they usually tell them to do special pujas and chant mantras to squash the bad effects of the planetary positions. And I have heard that sometimes if someone is manglik...then they look for a partner who is also manglik...though I don't understand how that would help...unless the bad plus bad wipe each other out.

But one thing is so obvious, if it is a boy...then they would hide it or wouldn't care if he gets married and ruin a girl's life. Rules made by man usually favour man, not the woman.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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@Sati
Kemcho,
aap kaun???
Accha so aaj kaal Wikipedia mein crash course mangal dosha ka hai, wow, superfast yeh duniya, ajeeb baath,
To learn about astrology and kundali's takes a looooong time. Its a lifelong learning process for those who do know about it. But chalo, wikipedia mein to sub kuch hai, aaj kaal.
There is a particular science involved in the study of astrology as well.
Yes, I heard rahu, ketu and shani mentioned by the guruji.
The controversial interpretation here is concerning the Mangal Dosha in a female chart. There are various factors that determine the "Death" of a spouse, and all is not the fault of a mangal dosha in a female chart-its highly complex to explain here all the details as it includes a detailed study of a male and female charts and so forth, or a detailed study of a female chart alone. The word"intensity" cannot suffice alone to predict the death of a spouse, again with intensity there are other factors involved. Now, as in the series, Guruji mentioned that DM had a strong venus, then the Mangal problem is "nullified" concerning as we were shown that bechari khemi ke paas mangal dosha hai, so his venus can solve her mangal problem, there is a way, here to solve ALL Madhav Solanki's granddaughters, problem.
Santo has guru-rajyog-she has her secret admirer.
Khemi has mangaldosha and DM has strong venus.
Problem solved. Bus.

However, as Hema has mentioned that predominately astrological interpretations are done by males and that is a fact in Indian culture concerning reading of a kundali. There are female astrologers out there but also they are only a handful and of course they had to learn from a male. SO, In conclusion, one has to be very careful in the choosing an astrologer.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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[mombasa00] Yup Bavie, so much stupidity with this kundalis and charts. A mangal in a gilr's kundali is harmful to the would be husband (not all, so it depends on the would be husband's kundali too).<br><br>In some cases, it's not bad as long as the girl fasts on so many tuesdays. Ofcourse, once again, it's the woman who has the bear the grunt. The guy has to suffer nothing. A very biased notion. A woman fasting will cure any dosha's in their lives. What does a man have to do? Nothing, zilch, nada. 😡 <br><br>As Hemaben rightly points out. It is a male's point of view and how favorable it is to them. <br><br>Chokri ka kya? Woh toh ek kone pe padi rahegi!!

Mombs,
Yes, the mangal issue can be solved, there is a solution-both kundali's need to be studied in great detail. The main thing is that there is a solution, its not like what they showed us in the episode.
The disgusting notion is the "abshukan" or death to the spouse, or harmful to the spouse role and strength of the MANGAL in the female chart, this whole MANGLIK issue in a woman's chart which I would refer to it also as some mad male perverted N demented aversion to see a strong MARS transit in a female chart. Nyways, the main thing ppl should be aware of is that no interpretation is the end of it all, there is a solution here always in a chart. AND the MANGLIK female is not all that "abshukan".
Yes, Chokri ka kya, what about her feelings, nothing, nada. Chokri to milegi dime a dozen, but not anymore in this time, because during the 1990's to-I think its still going on, the girl fetuse in hundreds of not thousands were being aborted in India, and today if I am not mistaken the ratio in some villages is 5 males to 1 female. Yes, to chokri ka kya.

I am loving RR portrayal as Malik, he is awesome!! I loved him in today's episode, he was just too fantastic!!! AND Jagmohan does bring out the best in Malik-his anger!!! Their scenes are something to watch for!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Bavie, it is as true as it is sad.. The first step in deciding a marriage is seeing if the Kundali's(or jathakam's) match... And more often than not, if they dont match, its the problem with the girl's kundali.. either she has one dosha or the other.. Very rarely we see a proposal being rejected because of the guy's kundali.. So no no matter what dosha the guy has, the emphasis is laid on what little they find in the girls.. I think this happens because the girl becomes a part of a new family, she moves from one family to another na, so her astrological charts affects the entire family(atleast this is what people believe).. About the mangal and guru and the other planets i have no clue.. But these astrological stuff plays a very important role in a greater part of india.. Even to this day, and we're talking about a village setting.. Usually, a period of a bad planetary influence is followed by a good one and then a better one.. Its all in cycles.. And usually a person is influenced by all the planets atleast once.. So khemi is not all lost na??? I'm not very sure about this,but having mars as your primary planet and being a manglik is two different things na? Because, being a manglik means that your spouse's health will be harmed or something like that.. Usually to counteract this before marriage, wedding rituals are performed to the girl and a banana tree(or something like that, not very sure)...
More over the interpretations of the stars and planets vary from one astrologer to another.. So what one person may tell you will be completely different from wjhat the next person may say...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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A lot of this stuff is also psychological...if someone in authority tells you that certain planets in your natal chart are bad for you, then your mind too starts thinking in that way and if anything bad occurs, purely by coincidence, one tends to put the blame on Stars!
Many a times, especially in love marriages, the kundali's are not matched and yet the couple seem to live happily ever after. So it can't be that all those couples have perfectly matched horoscope or that none of such spouse might be a Manglik? And similarly, there are innumerous instances of arranged marriages where the horoscopes are matched painstakingly and yet tradgedy occurs out of the blue.
I had a very personal experience of the same. A distant relation was married a few years back, and she belonged to a very orthodox set up, where they didn't even go out of the house without checking the Rahu-Kal timing. It was an arranged match, and she was married after a lot of groom-searching because the family wanted her horoscope to match perfectly with her husband's. They finally found such a guy, but just 15 days after the wedding, he was driving down from somewhere and met with a freak accident, dying on the spot.
What explanation can anyone give to the young widow now? Especially her family, which took years to find the perfect guy with the perfect horoscope!
Ofcourse, there are always one off incidents, but as a lot of you have put it here, to decide one's life based on Stars and Planet's is a bit odd...given the unpredictability of life.
Coming back to Bandini, I find Santu's situation to be a far worse one than compared to Khemi. Whatever branding she might be given, at least Khemi is with her family, which loves her and respects her nevertheless. But Santu is now forced into a marriage which neither she wanted nor her husband. She is not only away from her family, but will be living with a man who will become her nemesis! And she can't even leave him and is completly doomed, if he leaves her.
For in our society, a single woman is still acceptable, but a woman left by her husband is as good as dead!
So all sympathies for Santu as of now!
Edited by soapie - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Exactly... Santo dint want to get married in the first place.. And now she's in an unwanted marriage.. The way she's going to be treated in her sasural is going to be horrible because of the caste and economic differences.. More because of her illiteracy.. Khemi is in a far better state, 6 years later, she will marry the person of her choice na.. Santo dint even have that choice.. She cant leave her husband, and is as good as dead if he leaves her..
The system of kundali's, the caste differences,even the zamindari system has always been a part of the Indian culture/traditions.. While it will take years to completely eradicate all of this, each one of us can do a little bit to try and remove atleast a small part of it...
Edited by sns23 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Challo, I'm going to come back later with a few comments over here... but for now, I must say thank you to Bavie ben for coming up with another great topic!
Everytime Bavie ben posts a topic, it's distinctively different from in theme, and so it's always interesting to read 😃
Also, astrology is fascinating... I like Shani Dev 😃 😃 😃 Aum Sham Shaneshcharaiya Namaha 😊
God bless.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Totally bang on Soapie and Mru ..

For Mru - it's gone from bad to worse and now the worst phase beckons her as she gets married to a man, as Soapie rightly suggested, her nemesis ..

Personally,

I dont have a LOT of belief in astrology .. but I accept it conveniently! LOL

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