Kundali, Grah ane Zindagi

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In today's episode the Guruji telepathetically having read Santo ni Kundali and declared her a chokri with a powerful Jupiter who will bring a "Raj Yog" in her husband's house. ?Santo behena che Guru ki raj yog waali naseebdar chokri
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Khemibehena che "abshukan" chokri because she has a mangal dosha for the next six years in her kundali.
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Malik paase shukra powerful che.

Now the reason given by the Guruji for Malik to get married to Santo because of the Kundali matching and her having a strong jupiter in her chart. This is a typical male chauvinistic interpretation of a girl's chart.
In astrology, Santo's strong jupiter could also mean the photographer who obviously is in love with her.
Khemi's mangal problem can be solved by the Malik's strong Venus. Malik does not necessarily have to marry Santo because the "Jupiter" reason.

If Malik wants to "perform" a social service to get rid of his bad waqt, he should really help out the Manglik chokri with his strong venus. He can transform Khemi's life with his strong shukra in his chart.
(just a little bit of information regarding planets interpretation)

Part 2:
Last week, we watched an excited Khemi's hopes and dreams of a married life come crushing down when the groom's side discovered from their astrologer, who read Khemi's kundali and pronounced her a 'manglik' and he declared that for six years she cannot get married. Since its Malik's hukum for their 'chaiwala' son to marry Madhav Solanki's granddaughter, the groom's parents decided on Santo, Khemi's younger sister as they cannot go against their Malik's order and they don't want a 'manglik' bahu.
(Male astrolgers interpretation of a Manglik chokri is similar to a bad omen).
To me, Khemi's story is tragic and sad. First of all, a young girl's future is decided on her kundali and where the planets are placed at the moment. AND that too, the kundali is read by a male astrologer who says the girl has mangal dosha. So what if Khemi has a strong 'mangal' in her chart? Khemi's situation is all the more heartwrenching because not only will she have to witness her younger sister getting married before her but also Khemi is already branded as somewhat a 'manglik' for the next six years of her life.

It's sad to see that a girl's future is decided on the position of her planets.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Bavie sis, the thing is that my mota bhai doesn't know anything about the stars and the astrological charts and all...so he doesn't know what crap guruji is telling him...i mean he is following guruji's advice based on the success of his past endeavors. Mota bhai doesn't care if it is Khemi or Santo, he would have married either one of them heehe...whoever guruji tells him to marry...so it's all guruji's fault.
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Bavie sis, the thing is that my mota bhai doesn't know anything about the stars and the astrological charts and all...so he doesn't know what crap guruji is telling him...i mean he is following guruji's advice based on the success of his past endeavors. Mota bhai doesn't care if it is Khemi or Santo, he would have married either one of them heehe...whoever guruji tells him to marry...so it's all guruji's fault. <br>



Sammie ben, humko malum hai, Malik is ke paas bahut moto ego che.
I was just trying to clarify so far according to the kundali interpretation, hai na. They are using astrology alot here for the reason in the storyline for Malik to get married to Santo. I know he doesn't care if its Santo/Kanto/Banto or Khemi. Since the writers are using the tool of planets and all that to get their main character married, I am sure that even today astrology plays a huge part in alot of ppl's life, but when branded a girl with a mangal dosha, I am just clarifying that a mangal dosha chokri is not that bad, u know. That what they are wrting about is from a male perspective, a male interpretation and perhaps even today ppl might be thinking like that....
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U r right behena, but I think what they r trying to portray here is that...now that Santo's wedding was all set and at the very last moment the guy runs away...no one will marry her whereas with Khemi at least she will marry after 6 years...so the thing over here they r trying to portray is that Santo has the bigger tragedy than Khemi.
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Bavie aren't 99% of the astrological interpretations done by males? And it is always done from the point of view of how favorable it will be to the man.
Khemi being a 'mangal doshi' will not be able to get married for 6 years. On the other hand, if it was that Mahesh dude (the bhaagedu dulha) who was had the same affliction in his kundali, his parents would have gone ahead with the marraige anyway. I wonder if they would have even mentioned it to nanaji.
I think the way it goes is 'mangal doshi' = death of spouse. So they are looking after their son's well being. If the scenario was reversed Khemi could die and so what? They would just get another girl and get their son remarried.
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Originally posted by: Garv_Kumud_4eva

U r right behena, but I think what they r trying to portray here is that...now that Santo's wedding was all set and at the very last moment the guy runs away...no one will marry her whereas with Khemi at least she will marry after 6 years...so the thing over here they r trying to portray is that Santo has the bigger tragedy than Khemi.<br>



yaar its two distinct situations, one is manglik, the other guru-rajyog. If Guruchokri is not married today than she remains unmarried for the rest of her life. But guruchokri already has an admirer na? 😉 yeh to tragic nahin, bc guru means she has luck by her side. Nyways, I am just talking about the planets here...
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Oh hehe, just like Mota bhai even i m not understanding anything...hehehe🤣
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<FONT color=#330066>Bavie aren't 99% of the astrological interpretations done by males? And it is always done from the point of view of how favorable it will be to the man.</FONT>

<FONT color=#330066>Khemi being a 'mangal doshi' will not be able to get married for 6 years. On the other hand, if it was that Mahesh dude (the bhaagedu dulha) who was had the same affliction in his kundali, his parents would have gone ahead with the marraige anyway. I wonder if they would have evenmentioned it to nanaji. </FONT>


<FONT color=#330066>I think the way it goes is 'mangal doshi' = death of spouse. So they are looking after their son's well being. If the scenario was reversed Khemi could die and so what? They would just get another girl and get their son remarried.</FONT>



Well Mangal doshi means she is "bad luck" on her husband, now this is a typical male interpretation of the MANGAL in a woman's chart and you are precisely correct in saying that MOST of the astrological interpretations for a female chart are done by a MALE. Now this mangal dosha is a controversial issue regarding a Male astrologers interpretation of it in a female chart A male astrologer does not like to see a "Strong" mangal in a female chart. (See in this series they came up with Malik having a strong venus, now that is good for a female mars.)

No I don't think they would have said anything to Nanaji about Mahesh's weak planets.

Hema, its just sad to think that in these days they are still using the Mangal planetary issue to brand a female as badluck,.... that a female's life is decided on the male interpretation of the planets.

Edited by aperture - 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: aperture

A discussion:

In today's episode the Guruji telepathetically having read Santo ni Kundali and declared her a chokri with a powerful Jupiter who will bring a "Raj Yog" in her husband's house. ?Santo behena che Guru ki raj yog waali naseebdar chokri
and
Khemibehena che "abshukan" chokri because she has a mangal dosha for the next six years in her kundali.
AND
Malik paase shukra powerful che.

😆😆Bavie ben amazing post.......... I was just thinking the same................... how did guruji read the kundali of choti jaathi's santo............... here i thought he had a exclusive contract with DM.....never mind......... you go too far in gujji.......I dont get the meaning........kindly translate..............

Now the reason given by the Guruji for Malik to get married to Santo because of the Kundali matching and her having a strong jupiter in her chart. This is a typical male chauvinistic interpretation of a girl's chart.
In astrology, Santo's strong jupiter could also mean the photographer who obviously is in love with her.
Khemi's mangal problem can be solved by the Malik's strong Venus. Malik does not necessarily have to marry Santo because the "Jupiter" reason.
I think its one of those cases where Guruji went overboard thinking DM ko to kuch patha hai nahi............ kuch be phayko......kar farak padtha hai.......😆😆 Everybody has doshas very few ppl are without them......... he used all the bad grehas......... for example he said rahu ketu sani......... Who in the world told him saturn is always a bad graha....... its not............ its just a way of cleaning ur sins........ kam tum karo booray aur lagavo.... rahu ketu..... saturn , ayra gyra nathu gyra pay 😛😆😆

If Malik wants to "perform" a social service to get rid of his bad waqt, he should really help out the Manglik chokri with his strong venus. He can transform Khemi's life with his strong shukra in his chart.
(just a little bit of information regarding planets interpretation)
FYI Manglik dosha depending on the intensity can cause spouse death ( wikipedia) Compatibily according to indian astrology is..........Manglik and Mar of spouse not venus.....Though i am not an expert........ thats what the shastras say so i wont suggest DM to die.........yaar show uskay baaray mein hai......sukhi aur sammie kaa kya hoga...........

Part 2:
Last week, we watched an excited Khemi's hopes and dreams of a married life come crushing down when the groom's side discovered from their astrologer, who read Khemi's kundali and pronounced her a 'manglik' and he declared that for six years she cannot get married. Since its Malik's hukum for their 'chaiwala' son to marry Madhav Solanki's granddaughter, the groom's parents decided on Santo, Khemi's younger sister as they cannot go against their Malik's order and they don't want a 'manglik' bahu.
(Male astrolgers interpretation of a Manglik chokri is similar to a bad omen).
To me, Khemi's story is tragic and sad. First of all, a young girl's future is decided on her kundali and where the planets are placed at the moment. AND that too, the kundali is read by a male astrologer who says the girl has mangal dosha. So what if Khemi has a strong 'mangal' in her chart? Khemi's situation is all the more heartwrenching because not only will she have to witness her younger sister getting married before her but also Khemi is already branded as somewhat a 'manglik' for the next six years of her life.
Well Bavie...... I dont agree with you on this one. Jadhaga...aur kundali in hindu shastra is seen becoz that is the only way to find compatibility. In olden days alright alright even now a days....... these compatabilities are important........ Its the way arrange marriages work.............similar to love marriages.....or live in relationships..........where ppl experience incompatablity or tragedy by living.......... similarly for arranged marriages they are found by kundali............ Everything has a meaning its just exploited in wrong way.....similarly you can never escape your fate.............its like virus........there is no cure......u have to live through it..........medicines or dosha pooja will help you reduce the effect or minimize you pain.............now that i have given a long lecture on astrology i will move to khemi .........Khemi might have her hopes crashed.....but imagine the plight of the parent who will get her married and if ........... she gets seperated or windowed what will happen....and not to mention her plight..... she cannot even get re married...... thinking of the genre of the show...
It's sad to see that a girl's future is decided on the position of her planets.
Yes it is............ but then woman in general have a bad fate.......whether with planets or without them..............

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