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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: anshurg5


Pooja A-N-M case is not similar to that case since till now Mangla never asked Nimboli to call her as her mother nor asked her to give her the place of her mother. She only told Akhiraj and family when required that she is not a random girl lying on road they can mistreat but her daughter. Before this she once told Nimboli to consider her as masa , bapusa, friendsa and whatever else since Nimboli was feeling alone because of not having any of these relations.

So place of her mother is vacant for Nimboli. She had assumed once that a mother could be like her teesa but still she was her teesa not her mother.

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That is why I wonder when Mangla was eyeing that girl for stolen pleasures from the first moments then why she did not tell Akhiraj ( since they were family and they used to take combined decisions ) that thanks, you stole this girl for me . I would now consider her as DEvi ma's gift and raise her as my daughter . Then Nimboli would have called her Maasa and given her that place.
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Or since she sometimes used to perform Devi act obviously for fun because they had no other means of entertainment like movies , theaters for that at that place , she could have told Akhi in that roop that--' give this girl to your bhabhisa , it is her gift from me . She have to raise her as her daughter otherwise I would destroy this house'.
Obviously Ahki would have agreed to that instantly and again Mangla would have a child to raise as her own and someone to call her mother. And now no one could have claim back that child from her neither child would have accepted separation from her.
If even by chance Akhi would have become aware of fakeness of this devi act , he would have thanked her for entertaining not only their family but many other villagers too. 😃

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I wonder why the cunning lady did not choose any of the above options and opted no rights on the girl after making her marry to kundan.. 😕


I mentioned the real life case - only to tell that there is no way Mangala can be punished for what she did - saved a child and cared for her for all these years. Even the courts acknowledge the contribution of someone in the child's life - even though biological parents are alive.

Mangala was never selfish in whatever she did - neither she is now. The reaction is due to sudden turn of events. Let us see why she did what she did - even though she seemed to be preparing for a final goodbye.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Prophet_

Till now akhiraj listened whatever devimaa ordered. Why this Devimaa didn't ask akhiraj to return the child to its mother?


Copy pasting what I've posted in another thread.

Akheraj was very angry with that dayan woman. Would he leave the child at the place where he picked from?? What if he killed her in some unknown jungle and return back?? Would Mangala know what happened to that baby girl? Whether she safely reached her mother or not?

I don't think such a cruel & cunning man would let her free without any harm or keep her in his house for nothing. At that time his only trouble was Kundan's marriage which was stalled and he was furious about that. Mangala linked these two. Don't know whether she did it knowingly or unknowingly but it was good and could save the girl. Even if the parent come and claim the baby with the help of police things would be fine. Unfortunately this never happened! But if Akheraj takes the baby out with him Mangala would never know what happened to her.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Stalwart.


Copy pasting what I've posted in another thread.

Akheraj was very angry with that dayan woman. Would he leave the child at the place where he picked from?? What if he killed her in some unknown jungle and return back?? Would Mangala know what happened to that baby girl? Whether she safely reached her mother or not?

I don't think such a cruel & cunning man would let her free without any harm or keep her in his house for nothing. At that time his only trouble was Kundan's marriage which was stalled and he was furious about that. Mangala linked these two. Don't know whether she did it knowingly or unknowingly but it was good and could save the girl. Even if the parent come and claim the baby with the help of police things would be fine. Unfortunately this never happened! But if Akheraj takes the baby out with him Mangala would never know what happened to her.

Akhiraj seems to be scared of Devimaa and her curse.so if Devimaa ordered him to return the girl, I don't think he would have dared to kill tht child as he is scared of Devimaa and her powers-The same Devimaa found out who killed mangala's husband .
Your logic can happen if he had listened to mangala , not devimaa. Then he would have killed tht child and would have said that he has returned that girl.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#34
Even if it is accepted that it is the best way to save that girl's life then what stopped her later on when she saw how the child is treated like unwanted garbage ?
She could have very well used devi avatar to give the child back to her mother or dump her in some anadhashram. Why did she not do that?

She did take devi avtar to warn Kundan but did it stop Kundan?

She took Devi avtar to convey her anger against Harki and Akheraj for treating the child badly.But did it stop them?

Why did she not run away or find a way to get a better life for that girl? Even when it became clear that things will never change there she never did anything.

But when actually things were turning for better why did she runaway with that girl?

What happened to all the defence that was used saying world is not a good place for an illiterate woman and child all that blah blah ?
Did the world become better place over night?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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How could devima ordered to return the girl? She did not know who the woman was neither did Akhera know. And in that mad state - Akhera would have never agreed for something that was purely for the benefit of that woman who ruined his plans. He did not even agree for the marriage that devi suggested. Only Harki could convince him - that this marriage is in their own interest.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Dumping in anathashram was a better way? 😆. And do anathashrams even exist in rural areas? Or devi was really some divine person who will know beyond her limited exposure and select some anathashram some far away place (why not Udaipur or Jaitsar😃 ) and order Akhera do send the girl there?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I don't understand this demonisation of Mangala. The poor woman did whatever was in her capacity to shield the girl from the monstrosities of that messed-up household, it's owing to her that Nimboli/Nandini even breathes.
Yes, she did not know better than to suggest a marriage alliance between Nimbo and Kundan. And neither was she able to stop the atrocities directed at her. But that makes her a villain?
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Posted: 9 years ago
#38
Seriously, how mangala is a villain according to some viewers, I will never be able to understand.
So I have stopped wasting my time to bother to understand their POV.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I don't think anybody ever said tht mangala is a bad woman.
Mangala is defenitly not a bad woman , she is a good compassionate woman. But she is ruled by her own insecurities and a bit selfish too. And some members pointed out that shade.if she has thought about what is best for tht gal, she wouldn't have let that child to go through these tortures. Okay, agree that she doesn't know where to go and what to do. But when she met anandi , what made her hide the truth that nimboli is a child bride? Did she lie to protect the girl ?

@pooja, the question is not whether akhiraj know anandi or not. If she had said that , akhiraj would have spared that child from killing. That's what I think.
Donno, she might have thought that if she asked to do child marriage, they may treat that child as their beendni and will not harm her. But that doesn't happened, neither they considered her as beendni , nor it stopped them torturing a small child.
Ofcourse Mangala is a good woman, but she is not great like Yashodha . Yashodha didn't stop Krishna saying that , I am your only mother as I took care of you, so you should live the life of a Gopala. Yashodha with a heavy heart and teary eyes let the prince of Mathura to return to the place where he belong.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Akhera would not have listened to even devi - if she said anything that was in favour of child - he was mad at that time, and he is a cruel man. He did spare the child after listening to devi - but still not agreed what she said. It was harki who presented it like it is in their own interest that they marry the girl to Kundan. The marriage happened thereafter.
When mangala hid Nimboli's marital status - it looked normal reaction. Because Anandi told that she takes away child brides from their home. Is this a way to make people aware what social workers do? Mangala acted out of fear - fear of separation from Nimboli. Since she kept the clothes of the child, it looked like she also wanted the child to be restored to her parents. But that did not happen and after caring for the child for 12 long years she got attached to the child - and though she could not express this clearly - she thought about Nimboli just like her own daughter.

As regards Yashoda - she did stop Krishna. She was not ready to accept that he is not her son. But after initial resistance - she let go. And something like this is expected from Mangala also.

This running away perhaps is to avoid immediate separation. Had Nimboli been at home that night - Anandi would have taken her to circuit house or even Jaitsar then and there. Perhaps to avoid that situation, this running away happened.

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