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Posted: 10 years ago
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SPuja "Yesterday - Mangala did not do anything for getting bashed. But people bashed her anyway. "

She didn't do anything? She saved the girl from plunging to her death. This is the second time she has intervened to ensure that she lives.

But while M gets no credit for keeping Anandi's precious daughter alive, she is cursed, blamed and attacked for her attachment to the girl.

It is like: Yes you must save the girl any number of times but beware if you get attached to her or don't hand her over to her mother who does not even know her daughter is alive only thanks to one good soul.

Anandi lost her child and has put in no serious effort to find her. But she must get the girl on a platter. Mangala who saved her, continues to save her, and nurtures her, will be damned if she feels any attachment to her.

Is it all because one gave birth and the other didn't? Subsequent responsibilities don't matter?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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There have been enough reasons provided by various members of this forum as to why they like Mangala besides the fact thatshe saved and loves NNimboli.
But either people are not reading the posts correctly or simply sticking to their own interpretation of why Mangala is liked.

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The only connection between pre-leap and post leap was that A lost her daughter and how will she find her. So post leap people were more interested in seeing A N reunion over anything else.

But with time, other characters have started to make a place for themselves and now even if Anandi is out of the show it won't hurt.

If this was indeed Anandi's story makers would have made the reunion come close by now and we would be seeing Nandini's rehab through Anandi. But nothing like that is happening.Not even close. Even Shivam is lost. And nothing exciting on her career end as well. So what substantial track does Anandi have to keep her place going as a character?

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The constant harping that N won't give her mother's place to anyone is becoming valueless now. Or rather comes across as a statement said out of fear for Anandi.

It doesn't matter whether N gives any place to M or not, what matters is that, in her hour of need M always stood for N and continues to do so. While A is not even searching for N.

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Explanations have already been provided on why women GANGING up now is more feasible rather than ganging up earlier. So not going to go over that again.

I rest my case. In my POV, Anandi is a fading character while others are budding. Apart from that - to each their own.
Edited by Missesha - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43


And I don't see anyone here who didn't appreciate Urmi for defying Kundan and Akhi. No one grudged her praise for it.


But her cowardliness in not admitting that she nearly pushed N to her death has also to be mentioned.

Yes that is a common human failing, a survival technique.. But why does that apply only to Urmi and not to anyone else. Why is M called a cheat and a liar for acts thatactually fall in the category of white, harmless lies?


Why is a scene where the future lead gets saved from death so boring, irrelevant, filler etc?


And why assume that all viewers want to see only Anandi and find all other tracks to be fillers? The TRPs don't suggest that.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Yes Managla shook her head when Urmi was standing up to Akhi but it was out of her goodness because she feared for the girl.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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May be they should take out Nandini from Akheraj house and see how many people will be interested in watching Mangala's story 😛
Does she have any role other than suffering Akheraj atrocities and rescuing that child now and then?

BTW Didn't Nandini tell in the first few episodes itself how she handles all the punishments given by Harki and all the beatings she gets from Harki and Akheraj? She was telling Mangala about her methods.

They have shown her making those punishments ineffective all on her own by using her own brains.

So the girl is capable of handling life even on her own without Mangala's help.

Don't know why people keep giving credit exclusively to Mangala.

Mangala with all her love and her intense desire to be the girl's father and mother and everything couldn't take away all the pain that comes out of being unwanted.

The girl's problem has never been punishments which she herself dismisses as nothing saying it will hurt for a while and after that it will be okay.

People watch Nandini/Nimboli because as publicised and promoted by the CVs and Channel that she is Anandi's image. 😛

Akheraj's story will be watched simply because people want Anandi to thrash this brute of a man who snatched a baby from a woman who was running scared.Harki Kundan happen to be part of that story.

What is there in Mangala's story that is so absorbing if there is no Nandini in her life? Nothing.
CVs know very well people will not watch her story if there is no Nandini in it.

Kamili has a story of her own which is interesting even without Nandini or Anandi in it😃



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Posted: 10 years ago
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So Aparna, what exactly is the problem?

Until yesterday the problem was that M is not doing enough for N and doesn't have it her.

So today I felt and suggested that it would be fun to see Mangala and other tortured women ganging up against Akhi strategically using their individual powers. But that idea was knocked back stating that it is Anandi's forte.

So what is the problem? Mangala keeping quite so that A can do something or Mangala fighting it without A? She is bashed either ways.

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We were all looking forward to Anandi's story but makers are not giving it to us and we have come to slowly find interest in other characters and aren't evidently missing A's absence on screen - so is that a problem?

Does the problem lie with Anandi not getting a story or does the problem lie with other characters getting a better story?

Initially Jharla was boring, but not as much now, because Anandi is even further boring.

Or does the problem lie with viewers losing faith in A and seeing increased faith in other characters.?

Edited by Missesha - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

Urmi was good not because of the way she raised her voice against Akheraj but for the way she questioned Kundan for not standing up for his mother who loves and cares for him so much.

She has her fights with Kundan and she doesn't have much expectations from him. But she didn't like the way he was indifferent to his mother.


While raising her voice against Akheraj she just used her father's support which may or may not come.


She is the star of the episode. She really rose above her immature selfish bratty self.Whether she did it because of her father's support or because she did it because she is outraged by Kundan's silence.

She is learning the consequences of her defiant act.

Any ways we will soon know if her father will come in her support or not if he comes in her support how long that support will last.

If the support is not there we will have to wait and see whether she will be like Mangala who hides from the world and hides behind Devi ma mask when comes out Or whether she will be like Harki silently tolerates her husband's abuses and takes it out on weaker people.Or whether she will be like Nandini who fights even she loses she doesn;t give up.

Time will tell

But for today she is the star of the episode. Did what is so not expected of her given her self centered nature.

She is better than spineless people who talk about morals but think nothing of cheating in order to win a bet. It was only a small challenge.If the girl lost that challenge she would have found a way to challenge her souten and win .

People who crib about Anandi fans saying that they don't see beyond Anandi but here people don't seem to see beyond Nimboli even when today's episode is not about her but about Urmi.



Agree with your points on Urmi but why she can not be praised without lynching Mangla?

Yes Urmi felt bad for how Akhiraj treated Harki so questioned Kundan . It was not expected from her so it is more appreciated .
Mangla too is raising such questions and trying to rectify things as much as she could but she was never appreciated for it instead she is called spineless.
Was it not Mangla who after watching barbaric act of Kundan with Urmi went to Harki and tried to wake her conscious by making her remember her similar pain? Has she not sent Harki to Akhiraj to intervene and stop Kundan's cruelty?

Was that not similar to Urmi questioning Kundan? Actually it was more than that . Urmi only questioned Kundan , had not asked him to go and confront Akhiraj but Mangla sent Harki to Akhiraj for taking required action. It is different thing that Akhiraj did not care to put any stoppage on Kundan's act.
After this Mangla resolved to use her Devi act and successfully stopped Kundan imposing himself on Urmi. What was wrong in that ? She tried fair method first , when it did not work she was forced to use whatever other weapon was available to her.
Lord Krishna many times used underhand ways for the cause of greater good of humanity so why can not we mere mortals do that.
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As your second allegation of cheating for winning a bet I will like to remind you that she was not doing that willingly and has told Nandini that this was last time she was helping her in that way.

That cheating too she did not do for herself but for keeping Nandini's spirit alive . There are so many praises for Nandini and her ways of fighting for truth but why that little girl told a white lie when that was not even necessary ?( She did not even remember her choki chudail sa's teaching in that) Just to keep one up from Urmi? When Nandini knew very well that she could not make kachouri why she told lie and then accepted that challenge? Has Teesa encouraged her for that? No .
It was not that Nandini position would have drastically changed if she would have become personal dasi of Urmi after loosing that bet. She would have doing all the same. But it would have been her spirit which would have get effected.
Doing work does not pain Nandini but being called maid brings tears in her eyes. Urmi's taunt about personal dasi after winning that bet would have caused pain to little Nandini's heart that is why Teesa stooped to cheating for winning that bet in which Urmi had cleverly trapped Nandini.

Can not we speak two words of praise for her instead of relentlessly accusing her for whatever little we get against her?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Take Nandini out of Akhi's house? Not a bad idea. No one will likely watch Mangaa without Nimboli./Nandini.


Similarly let us take Nandini completely out of Anandi's life -- the two will never meet, let's assume.


How many people will watch Anandi for herself or even Anandi in Shiv Niketan?


I disagree that Nimboli is cast in Anandi's image. The girl does things Anandi never did. Little Anandi was a very good child but she was shown as overly virtuous -- never lying ever etc.

Nandini is far more fun -- she lies, she gobbles laddoos meant for others, cheats does everything that sets her completely apart from Anandi.

And thank God for that! One more sanctimonious character suffering and crying would have been too much.

I'm not putting down Anandi but Nandini can be her own person.
Edited by rohini55 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i agree that mangla is gud hearted thatswhy shes getting support .but wat i m wondering abt urmi is harmless prank.tho her intention was not to harm but still she shud kno wat its result as shes 18yrs.but ppl r calling it harmless prank but i rembr wen a 11yr old kid left anoder kid of same age gp at school as a harmless prank(as it was shown him saying now he"ll get late)that kid was called evil & cruel😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja

We all know who is biased. In this very thread it is clear 😆.

I am copy pasting what Shinya wrote already

"Teesa is a nice lady not because she loves nimboli but because she is good at heart, she does no harm to anyone, neither through words nor actions.

And Harki is not a nice lady not because she does not love nimboli but because she is cruel and wicked. She was cruel even to her own daughter... It is just that she is helpless before her husband.

Urmi's act was good but I cant call her courageous yet, because whatever she is doing is out of her ignorance about that family... She may continue to raise her voice as long as she has her father's strong support.

Other 5 ladies do not have any support."

Obviously some people will try to ignore this and post same thing again and again - as if ek jhooth sau bar bolne se sach ho jata hai. Harki does not get sympathy for what she is doing - Urmi is getting sympathy when she is innocent (when Kundan beat her, then when he raped her etc.) not only from characters like Mangala and Nimboli and chagni but also from forum members. If someone tries to ignore it selectively - then what others can do?

As regards the women of Akhera house - still biased views 😆. Nimboli is not fighting - she is questioning because she does not know the consequences of her actions - it has been proved time and again that in order to show her innocence - creatives are making her act like a dumb. Similar action by Urmi also yesterday - she is young and perhaps this is the first time in her life she saw such cruelty - so she spoke - but she is older than Nimboli - perhaps she will understand the consequences of speaking up. If she shuts down - it will not necessarily a weakness of character - it can be called being practical. Has anyone seen a house where women gang up against men to fight? Where these women stand in society? The net savvy urban people don't know the reality of rural society. It rarely happens like the story of Ganga/DS and Anandi. Of course, this is a story - the writers can very well show Anandi coming and winning from Akhera - it is their story and their whims. But that cannot undermine other characters or make other characters weak. It is just that creatives cannot give side characters more credit than the lead.


@spuja -

Well said.

Talking about the 5 people. It looks even the maid changini is included in this...which sounded funny😆. Out of 5 , nimboli and Urmi are excluded for the reasons you mentioned. Changini is not a part of that family. Then we have harki and mangala. Harki totally belongs to akiraj team. She doesn't enjoy being a victim...but she loves to join Akhiraj and belittle others everytime Akhiraj gives her a chance. She wouldn't dream of teaching her husband any lessons. Infact she's a woman who raised a son like kundan🤢. So harki too is out of the team. It looks like only mangala should have done it...she's spineless cause she didn't do it. Rest all have full spines.

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