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Posted: 10 years ago
suppose if anandi keep reminding only jagya cheating forgetting his good thing then how would have jagya ganga felt
and yes anandi should not hide any truth from shivam .she should tell shivam how I save jagya life then how jagya use to call me ganwar mitti ka ghada how jagya cheated me because of gauri .how jagya change figure of railway budget .how jagya try to take revenge from me because I have not forgiven him in first
yes go anandi tell each and everything truth to shivam
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Posted: 10 years ago

I think right now shivam and abhi character r kept in reserve.

well shivam character is not yet develop properly , everything we have to assume only. that he knows everything about his paternal side .

Well i was expecting atleast one scene where anandi telling shivam about his father .But i think shivam is born understanding like his father .😉 audience has to assume that he knows everything about father but i think as Anandi said - inke paas aapki koi yaadein nahi hai . so may be he dont have attachment with father as he has not seen him. That is why it doesnt make difference for shivam and that is why he never talk about his father.

But i dont remember did anandi told him how nandini got kidnap . I think he jsut know that his sister is missing .
Anyway right now shivam character is not properly established .




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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: surabhi01

suppose if anandi keep reminding only jagya cheating forgetting his good thing then how would have jagya ganga felt
and yes anandi should not hide any truth from shivam .she should tell shivam how I save jagya life then how jagya use to call me ganwar mitti ka ghada how jagya cheated me because of gauri .how jagya change figure of railway budget .how jagya try to take revenge from me because I have not forgiven him in first
yes go anandi tell each and everything truth to shivam



And shivam must also be told how dadisa tortured a very young anandi who was his mother for years.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: tellygeek



I agree Aparna.
But I would give benefit of doubt to Ganga that she was still preparing herself to tell Mannu everything and events took place too soon. she couldn't let Mannu meet Ratan in jail, even Ratan wanted that.
After that they lost touch till Anandi came back with the news.

Fine. Taking Mannu to jail to meet Ratan is not acceptable.
But what prevented her from telling about him after Mannu had grwon up? Why did she refuse Jagya's suggestion that they tell Mannu about Ratan?
If Anandi had not met Bimla also Bimla would have brought Ratan to this Jaitser.
She as a doctor has seen in what condition he was in. But still took her own sweet time telling about Ratan.
Finally it came out in the worst possible way. That young boy who is totally confused hurt bewildered at the turn events and probably frightened too and he is lashing out indiscriminately at everyone because he himself doesn't understand what is happening to him why be so judgemental about that kid?
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Posted: 10 years ago
I think everything got messed up just bcz of wrong timing..!
Mannu was told d truth at d wrong place, wrong time n in a wrong way. so it left Ganga , Jagya n DS wid very little option to peacefully tell him everything abt Ratan.

They simply told him d reason dat why Ganga left him n told him nothing abt how Ratan had a change of heart in d jail n how he never ever tried 2 exercise his right of meeting Mannu, which offcourse is wrong..BUT den Ganga's way of handling was wrong since beginning itself. Jagya predicted rightly n wisely n if Ganga wud hav agreed 2 him dat day, may b situation wudnt have worsened today.

It is shameful but nt really bcz of d critical situation they were in..telling gud thing abt Ratan wen Mannu was already feeling sympathy wid him cud have worsened d situation,,More shameful is d way d past was revealed-at d cremation ground. Just my personal opinion.
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Posted: 10 years ago
yes anandi is very bad person hiding such truth .she should be totally sacchai ki murat .not only telling about jagya truth but ds truth should be reveal how ds dont care about jamuna health and want only grand son did not care about jamuna life how ds secretely marry jagya to gauri because she think anandi cannot take proper care of jagya because anandi has gajni memory because of bullet . tell that truth too how ds ask anandi to burn books

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Posted: 10 years ago
Now people will say ratan is taking revenge or emotionally blackmailing through the very presence of mannu. Mannu will always remind them of ratan.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Mannu used to be friends with Nandu. If he comes to know the accidental birth of Nandu, mannu will ask, 'how basant was better than my father ratan? Why not ratan niwas on the lines of Basant niwas?
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Not_a_fan



I post here rarely, I'm no fan of anyone and I really don't care about fan wars or actors. With that disclaimer, I find people should not go so overboard in their hatred for a character that you make statements like these. You completely took away the beauty of adoption and the love an orphan child receives from parents who have no obligation to love him/her by saying they are not the child's real parents. And sorry, naking light of rape and murder attempts and legitimizing parental rights of a person like ratan over jagya--- not done either. Making babies is the easiest thing in the world-- even animals do it. Being a parent is different from proving genetic material, and doing the latter doesn't automatically grant you the right for the former. In fact, in many developed countries, children are taken away from their biological parents if they perceive children are in danger. And the kind of environment the rayan singh household has definitely qualifies. Apart from that, ratan did become a better person and he did have the right to request Ganga about meeting mannu. It was completely her prerogative if she would allow that or not. He's still a minor and she's the parent with the custody-- his mental and physical well being are her responsibility and she can decide if something is good for him or not, at least until he becomes an adult.

On the other hand, ratan singh could have seen/even met Mannu without revealing himself. Mannu is not guarded 24/7. Seems like ratan's wish to meet mannu became strong only on his death bed, and even though that is completely normal, the main thing to consider is how this wish will affect the minor. Either way, mistakes were made but mannu's parents only had his best interests in mind (in fact, only his interests in mind). He'll understand them and their reasoning in time. But in the meantime, let's not get carried away and make such broad statements about important social issues, whatever be ones issues with a fictional character.

Apologies about the typos-- I'm on autocorrect



No, I did not take away the beauty of adoption. In adoption, the child is given away for adoption. His own parents abandon him.

Such children have immense hatred for their biological parents for abandoning them and remain indebted to their adopted parents for raising them with love.

Who adopted mannu and why? Since Jagya married his mother, he becomes mannu's step-father. Ganga asked him to adopt her son for legal rights and to give him his name. That does not make mannu an adoptee and jagya an adoptive father.

Neither did I make a light of rape. ganga's case was a marital rape just like another character's in the show . Ganga was not raped by a stranger on the road and got pregnat. She was rather happy when she finally got pregnant from her husband.

Ratan was bad, but that was his past. He had indeed changed for the better. But people, just to support ganga, are forgetting that he did not bother them for over 12 years. They are also forgetting that in order to get back at ratan, ganga took away her son's right to know the truth and decide for himself what is right and what is wrong.

She took it for granted that her son would support her decision and accept that his father was bad just because she says so.

It does not work like that. Every human likes to have the freedom to make his own decisions. mannu was not wrong at all when he said all those things to his mother.

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Posted: 10 years ago
Exactly timing was wrong...like I wrote in other thread Ganga indirectly made Ratan HERO in eyes of Mannu ...this exactly happen
It seems CV showing Mannu is turn out to be Ratan Ganga kid ... Like Ganga he too accuse without reason who knows might Behave like Ratan..
well Ratan his parents can't be compare with Amol's real parents ... They are nit like Ratan his clan ...
in fact Amol is lucky his both set of parents are educated ... So Amol can't behave badly ...if CV try to show Blood is thicker than water ... Like Mannu gone bonkers right now ... Turn out to be Ratan Ganga kid ...not Jagya's son
Mannu's behaviour due to Ganga's wrong decision due to this Jagya & Mannu both ended up suffered most without their fault

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