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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: tellygeek

Anandi and Jagya are the two main characters for me in BV and I am a little more attached to the Singhs because of Dadisa. Anandi can't be shown leading a happy life without Jagya being happy.
Whatever it is, Jagya has played a very important role in what Anandi is today. Their paths have to cross regularly and they should be shown enriching each others lives with their personal experiences.
Anandi can thrive without Shiv, but there's no Shiv (or Shekhars) without Anandi !
Jagya can survive without Ganga, but there's no scope for Ganga without Jagya !


I was very disapponted with a few tracks done on Jagya in the past to show him in bad light.. It is about time the director shows us some good tracks on Jagya.

beautifully explained..esp the @bold👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

Well said.Anandi and Jagya are the two main characters.Even I feel more attached to Singhs mainly because of these two characters are connected to both these characters.

Jagya's attitudes and actions towards Anandi have played a very big role in shaping up Anandi.
So it is quite logical to expect Jagya to be influenced by the same past and him being shaped by that past.
Anandi is made for Shiv and like she herself said she survived bullet injury because he was in her destiny and they are two bodies one soul.
Ganga is the right person for Jagya too they are made for each other.
But through Anandi's actions we see a lot how her life with Jagya has influenced her.
The decision to help Sanchi become beendini of Haweli ki beendini came out of Anandi's own experience about how she changed herself to fit in with Haweli people and later how she tried to educate herself and learn computers to make herself more suitable for Jagya.
Her decision to help Sanchi post courtcase came from her own experience seeing Jagya disintegrate in the absence of family support.
Later after the rape when Sanchi realised what a worthless existence she had been leading till then and wanted to change her ways she supported her wholeheartedly because she saw Jagya trying to change ways and how much the family support is needed at that tine from that experience.
She was moved by the plight of that kid at the traffic lights.When she saw the kid being bullied it was the memory of that little Jagya that made her confront that bullying beggar.
Almost every action of Anandi is decided by those emotions she felt when she was Haweli ki Beendini and Jagya's Balikavadhu.
If that life could influence Anandi in her present life why is it not acceptable if Jagya's actions are influenced by his past with Anandi?
Jagya's actions and decisions like agreeing to marry Sanchi because he thought she was Anandi's choice and breaking up the engagement with Sanchi because he realised she was not the bahu that his parents wanted came because of Anandi's influence in his life and he knew how his parents and family though she was the most ideal beendini.
The story is about how the decisions taken by one person has a ripple effect on the other person's life and this is what the show is all about.
Ganga and Shiv are ideal partners for Jagya and Anandi because they have accepted their partners with all the baggage that comes with them unquestioningly.
Anandi and Jagya's paths have to cross each other frequently to carry the story forward and slso to test the strength of the relationships of both JaGa and AnSh.
What makes Anandi special is her past with Jagya and same thing with Jagya too his past with Anandi.
The pairs can have their own tracks but they need to have interesting tracks to make the lives of two pairs cross each other's path.Because this is the next phase of story.They are already established the pairs but the pairs need to be tested time and again.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja

Don't know why, but to me, it never looked that she was angry with J (except when he behaved badly with others like in property case or bhabhuti case), her behaviour looked like she still loves J (even after her marriage) and angry with Shiv. She never ever had any recall of what J did to her in that period (when she was being bullied by DS and even after marriage). Here the creatives confused the viewers about Anandi's real feelings, so we are left to interpret it any which way. If the intention was to show that she is angry with J, she should have recalled about the incidents where J was bad to her, her hurt about what J did to her etc. . But all they did show was her remembering good times with J - so it looked like she is still not over with that relationship and has been forced in marriage with Shiv. Since they show realisation of her 'love' towards Shiv after marriage, it looked like there was some compulsion to show for 'good' women will love their husband and even after husband left her, they will be happy with memories instead of remarriage.

Again my views only.

They went overboard with all those flashbacks then just to add to the confusion and her expressions were inscrutable too to make things complicated. Partly it was to keep it suspense I guess.
She didn't want him back in her life and at the same times memories won't go away and on top of it she was being forced to marry someone.
I think only after marriage that Shiv realised that she is troubled by the memories since he can't wipe away those memories he kept drawing a bigger line next to the existing line till they stopped bothering her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Andriaa

superb !👏

honestly i became fan of ur posts 😃



Add me to the list as well 😊.
Very well written Aparnauma, a pleasure to read, you know this character so well.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

They went overboard with all those flashbacks then just to add to the confusion and her expressions were inscrutable too to make things complicated. Partly it was to keep it suspense I guess.

She didn't want him back in her life and at the same times memories won't go away and on top of it she was being forced to marry someone.
I think only after marriage that Shiv realised that she is troubled by the memories since he can't wipe away those memories he kept drawing a bigger line next to the existing line till they stopped bothering her.


@bold - nice explanation. Memories will remain, but no one can have selective memories. And when someone is rejected cruelly, degraded and made to feel like she was not good enough to be his wife - it is difficult to imagine she never remembered all those things even though it happened in recent past. And for me, the worst phase of BV was "mujhse nahi hoga" phase. There was no need to include that track - it is not a bad effect of bal - vivah, not even an effect of divorce and remarriage and gave no social message. Why Anandi was resisting any closeness with Shiv and was remembering good times spent with J is a mystery to me. If they wanted to show her fear of the repeat - she should have remembered good times with J and then how she was rejected by the same J.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja


@bold - nice explanation. Memories will remain, but no one can have selective memories. And when someone is rejected cruelly, degraded and made to feel like she was not good enough to be his wife - it is difficult to imagine she never remembered all those things even though it happened in recent past. And for me, the worst phase of BV was "mujhse nahi hoga" phase. There was no need to include that track - it is not a bad effect of bal - vivah, not even an effect of divorce and remarriage and gave no social message. Why Anandi was resisting any closeness with Shiv and was remembering good times spent with J is a mystery to me. If they wanted to show her fear of the repeat - she should have remembered good times with J and then how she was rejected by the same J.



If a normal woman was in anandi's place, the behaviour would have been different. Anandi never hated dadisa inspite of all her cruelty and anandi never hated Jagya though she was pained by his behaviour. Maybe she thought she was not good enough and so Jagya went for gauri. Low self esteem maybe one of the reasons.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja


@bold - nice explanation. Memories will remain, but no one can have selective memories. And when someone is rejected cruelly, degraded and made to feel like she was not good enough to be his wife - it is difficult to imagine she never remembered all those things even though it happened in recent past. And for me, the worst phase of BV was "mujhse nahi hoga" phase. There was no need to include that track - it is not a bad effect of bal - vivah, not even an effect of divorce and remarriage and gave no social message. Why Anandi was resisting any closeness with Shiv and was remembering good times spent with J is a mystery to me. If they wanted to show her fear of the repeat - she should have remembered good times with J and then how she was rejected by the same J.

I remember her saying to Gauri when J and G came to meet his parents. She told Gauri that her Jagya is lost somewhere in Mumbai.The one she saw with Gauri is not her Jagya.
I suppose that was her way of coping up with the abandonment.
I used to wonder why she never got angry on seeing Jagya with Gauri. She kind of mentally separated her Jagya and from Gauri's Jagat.
I think people have a different way of coping with pain.
May be remebering the pleasant things stopped her from becoming bitter and resentful and angry.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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O wow so what what Jagya did marrying Ganga his choice , breaking up with Sanchi his choice that's it ?Both where plenty of drama for Anandi 😆That's the great story for Jagya and Anandi was an onlooker ? 😆I am glad Cvs at least gave Jagya this much chance to do these works not that Anandi preached him there too but in everywhere drama they must created for her so that she can have some spicy story if they would not be thinking drama for her and make her live her own life then JaGan story would be much better

Anandi is a central character All stories has to be linked with the central character we know that but there is way to link and limit ,she was forced in JaGan story and I think the Balak Var is also an important character if Shyam Sugna and Basant Gehna''s tracks can be independent of Anandi then why not his ?

Apart from marrying Ganga and breaking up with Sanchi were Jagya's decisions but In that too Anandi madam s life has to be influenced Why it was Anandi Anandi Anandi everywhere ? Really she was on looker ? So her problems in her sasra was linked with Jagya or her ? 😆She was being proved what a great daughter in law and wife she is through it not Jagya so how people say she was just an onlooker ?Took the back seat whole last year ?

Who is Sanchi in the show Anandi's nanad If making Sanchi after Jagya was not to link Anandi with his story then for what was that ? If they had to show Jagya choosing better life partner for him than that purpose even Gauri could fill Make a choice between Gauri and Ganga So many replacements happened even Gauri could be replaced but then there would be no drama for Anandi in that With Sanchi Anandi had a much masala . so how can people say Anandi has nothing to do with that when Sanchi was also doing competition with Anandi trying to put her down where she failed Sanchi will succeed ? Sanchi was doing competition with Anandi or with Jagya?

Anandi was an onlooker than Dadisaa 's Devi maa bhakt number 1 couldn't get idea Ganga will be perfect for Jagya even after seeing the miracle not Sanchi Anandi was special one to get this idea before anyone else that she was saying to her kanha jee though she never applied that idea

Anandi went to meet her teacherjee then how come Mannu came in there ? It was accident ? This accident overnight had to happen with her when she never saw Mannu ever ? then she has to take a full fledged mission to save Mannu?wow what an accident ? If it was written already she will save Mannu then cvs would show before Ganga having a picture of Mannu that she saw but neither Ganga had any picture neither they thought of giving Anandi this mission before so how can people say here she was not forced later?

Why will Jagya ask her to search bride for him ? Who is she ? His mom , dad , dadisaa ? Shouldn't it be Singhs work? Or they are stupid they cannot even search bride for him that Anandi 's approval is needed ?Why she went to bully him in first place ? Strange naa the woman who cries when she is bullied for marriage then herself bullies others and given clean chit too ? Why she has to play a role in bride searching mission even though later he married woman of his choice ( i will be grateful to BV cvs forever for this kindness )but what was the need of that unnecessary dialogue all that drama where she is standing to choose bride for him why her opinion matters ?

No matter how many explanations people give you cannot deny the fact Anandi was forced there to deliberately revolve story around her She was an on looker in Shyam Sugna , Basant Gehna stories when she was kid had no role to play Powerful stories were presented without twisting them to only make dramas for Anandi Then she was a central character too or she became central character just last year ?Here she was suppose to be same on looker but it was she everywhere on Singhs mouths , dramas for her Accept this or not your wish

Balika is a novel or not I don't know but its story is twisted and turned to suit time and characters that the writers interviews themselves tell as it keep changing

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Posted: 11 years ago
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anandi and Jagya have such complicated past and thats why I do not want them to meet often. It looks awkward. Fortunately both have got separate tracks.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@bold - nice explanation. Memories will remain, but no one can have selective memories. And when someone is rejected cruelly, degraded and made to feel like she was not good enough to be his wife - it is difficult to imagine she never remembered all those things even though it happened in recent past. And for me, the worst phase of BV was "mujhse nahi hoga" phase. There was no need to include that track - it is not a bad effect of bal - vivah, not even an effect of divorce and remarriage and gave no social message. Why Anandi was resisting any closeness with Shiv and was remembering good times spent with J is a mystery to me. If they wanted to show her fear of the repeat - she should have remembered good times with J and then how she was rejected by the same J.


If a normal woman was in anandi's place, the behaviour would have been different. Anandi never hated dadisa inspite of all her cruelty and anandi never hated Jagya though she was pained by his behaviour. Maybe she thought she was not good enough and so Jagya went for gauri. Low self esteem maybe one of the reasons.

I never want her to hate Jagya or any other person. Hate is a negative emotion. I said about memories. We cannot have only good or only bad memories. The low self esteem would have resulted in her resisting the idea of marriage - the commitment itself. Jagya never degraded her physically - so low self-esteem would never result in resisting physical relations with her new husband ( a Ganga or Gahna feeling this could be understood because they were abused physically). Anandi was shown discussing with Sumitra (just before marriage) whether she will be able to love another person (Shiv), she never discussed whether she can be a good wife for Shiv or whether Shiv will accept her - low self-esteem would have made her think on these lines.

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