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Posted: 11 years ago
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@bold - nice explanation. Memories will remain, but no one can have selective memories. And when someone is rejected cruelly, degraded and made to feel like she was not good enough to be his wife - it is difficult to imagine she never remembered all those things even though it happened in recent past. And for me, the worst phase of BV was "mujhse nahi hoga" phase. There was no need to include that track - it is not a bad effect of bal - vivah, not even an effect of divorce and remarriage and gave no social message. Why Anandi was resisting any closeness with Shiv and was remembering good times spent with J is a mystery to me. If they wanted to show her fear of the repeat - she should have remembered good times with J and then how she was rejected by the same J.
I remember her saying to Gauri when J and G came to meet his parents. She told Gauri that her Jagya is lost somewhere in Mumbai.The one she saw with Gauri is not her Jagya.
I suppose that was her way of coping up with the abandonment.
I used to wonder why she never got angry on seeing Jagya with Gauri. She kind of mentally separated her Jagya and from Gauri's Jagat.
I think people have a different way of coping with pain.
May be remebering the pleasant things stopped her from becoming bitter and resentful and angry.

That is why when you explained that she was angry with both J and Shiv - I said that she was never angry with J. Remembering the pleasant things may have stopped her from becoming bitter and resentful and angry towards J, but why would it make her angry towards Shiv - who was always understanding, pleasant and behaving in a mature way with her?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja


@bold - nice explanation. Memories will remain, but no one can have selective memories. And when someone is rejected cruelly, degraded and made to feel like she was not good enough to be his wife - it is difficult to imagine she never remembered all those things even though it happened in recent past. And for me, the worst phase of BV was "mujhse nahi hoga" phase. There was no need to include that track - it is not a bad effect of bal - vivah, not even an effect of divorce and remarriage and gave no social message. Why Anandi was resisting any closeness with Shiv and was remembering good times spent with J is a mystery to me. If they wanted to show her fear of the repeat - she should have remembered good times with J and then how she was rejected by the same J.

I remember her saying to Gauri when J and G came to meet his parents. She told Gauri that her Jagya is lost somewhere in Mumbai.The one she saw with Gauri is not her Jagya.
I suppose that was her way of coping up with the abandonment.
I used to wonder why she never got angry on seeing Jagya with Gauri. She kind of mentally separated her Jagya and from Gauri's Jagat.
I think people have a different way of coping with pain.
May be remebering the pleasant things stopped her from becoming bitter and resentful and angry.

That is why when you explained that she was angry with both J and Shiv - I said that she was never angry with J. Remembering the pleasant things may have stopped her from becoming bitter and resentful and angry towards J, but why would it make her angry towards Shiv - who was always understanding, pleasant and behaving in a mature way with her?
Puja - Emotions and logics are different.
Was she in a mood to have a man in her life when Shiv came into her life???
She didn't want a man in her life and she was bullied and emotionally blackmailed into agreeing to marry him '
She just took out her frustration on him for being cornered and made to agree to marry him.
Every human being needs to give vent to his/her frustrations.
Why should she trust him?Didn't Jagya love her yet that love was not enough to keep him with her.
When Shiv comes from nowhere and strats showering affection tpwards her why she should she trust him?Why should she not get irritated with him?
Why should she not feel that all men are like this?
Why should she accept his love with open arms? What guarantee is there that he doesn't leave her when he gets bored with her?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Add me to the list as well 😊.
Very well written Aparnauma, a pleasure to read, you know this character so well.
yes.actually iam nt a regular watcher of Balikavadhu...so i dont know abt the past story very much but thru @aparnauma's many posts..i can understand the characters so well...so fall in love with Jagya and Anandi after watching old episodes..now JaAn is my fav..❤️love to see them in single frame .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Aparna,

I remember same kind of conversation happened between us couple of months back.It seems none of our views changed.That time also I said its the way I see it.

Till March 2012 they showed us that Jagya will come back to Anandi.The writer who showed us that Sanchi's redemption was rape,Ganga was desperate to give Singh's a heir then why cant they show Anandi Jagya re-uniting?Same show it is.They did all this because they thought about the future story.

Jagya is the male lead so he have to live happily ever after with Anandi according to creatives till March 2012.They were playing romantic music,showing lots of romantic scenes,why will they do that!To show the bad effect you need to say the good things according to the creatives,ok,JaAn were so much in love it was shown very beautifully,there was no need to continue it.Especiallly a character like Anandi will never give romantic looks to a person who ditched her.She gave because creatives were thinking of making them united.It was the day of Gauri's miscarriage when Jagya unbelievably believed that Anandi is the reason of Gauri's miscarriage.He didn't believe that Anandi will elope with a boy,always used to support Anandi if Gauri used to bash her but he believed that Anandi deliberately killed his baby.Why!Because that was the time they decided a new entry will happen and he will be Anandi's soulmate.Now a good message is send that a cheater doesn't deserve a second chance.Then what!The cheater is their male lead!!!

The confusion was so evident.He is splitting in three and six Jagya's and the good Jagya won,then from where comes the revenge!I can't spoil Anandi's happiness,he was thinking standing behind the tree.I was totally confused with their confusion.

They were confused what will they do with Jagya character,whether to keep it or not.They gave a leave to the actor,for how many days they didn't know,its the proof that they thought they doesn't need the character at the moment.Main leads can't be given leaves for unknown time.So there thinking was now this character is just a side character.One thing Shashank also said he was on leave which they gave him and suddenly at night they called to shoot a promo with Sriti.If I talk as a fan its insulting how u treat that actor/character and if I think neutrally then it happened because the confusion cleared and they understood so many people were waiting for years to see Jagya learning from his mistakes.

Purmendu Shekhar created the character Jagya,extraordinary character,but he did injustice to his own creation.

P.S.I was unable to post...It was saying I can't post,but now I have changed my browser so posting the comment.
Edited by shankythebest - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja


@bold - nice explanation. Memories will remain, but no one can have selective memories. And when someone is rejected cruelly, degraded and made to feel like she was not good enough to be his wife - it is difficult to imagine she never remembered all those things even though it happened in recent past. And for me, the worst phase of BV was "mujhse nahi hoga" phase. There was no need to include that track - it is not a bad effect of bal - vivah, not even an effect of divorce and remarriage and gave no social message. Why Anandi was resisting any closeness with Shiv and was remembering good times spent with J is a mystery to me. If they wanted to show her fear of the repeat - she should have remembered good times with J and then how she was rejected by the same J.



On @bold, I think it was relevant to show the scars of the painful past that Anandi still carried with her hidden from everyone else, unknown to her as well. This only hit her after marriage, and she was terrified of this physical closeness. It was not a fear of repeat, she was scared of setting herself free from her own memories. That's what made Shiv so special, for his understanding and friendly nature towards his wife during those days. As beautifully explained by Aparnauma, "he kept drawing a bigger line next to the existing line till they stopped bothering her."

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Posted: 11 years ago
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i agree with sidra if cvs would have thought less about dramas around Anandi and thought more of JaGan then JaGan entire track would be different
Agreed Anandi is a central character All stories has to be linked with her but cvs had all concentration on how much drama they have to produce for Anandi from JaGan Lesser they thought about JaGan otherwise their story wont be rushed like the way it was
Jagya took decisions of breaking with Sanchi and marrying Ganga himself Thank God but really all dramas around Anandi were unneeded It looked too forced She did numerous mistakes right from dragging Jagya back to Jaitser when family was ok to give him sometime to bullying him to agree for marriage to in SaJa all her mistakes but never made to realize any and given a clean chit , painted bechari too . This irritated many viewers like me I feel Anandi was unneeded in JaGan track They should have shown her living her own life Her own tracks
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i agree with sidra if cvs would have thought less about dramas around Anandi and thought more of JaGan then JaGan entire track would be different Not rushed
Agreed Anandi is a central character All stories has to be linked with her but cvs had all concentration on how much drama they have to produce for Anandi from JaGan track Lesser they thought about JaGan otherwise their story wont be rushed like the way it was
Jagya took decisions of breaking with Sanchi and marrying Ganga himself Thank God but really all dramas around Anandi were unneeded She did numerous mistakes right from dragging Jagya back to Jaitser when family was ok to give him sometime to bullying him to agree for marriage to in SaJa all her mistakes but never made to realize any and given a clean chit , painted bechari too . This irritated many viewers like me I feel Anandi was unneeded in JaGan track They should have shown her living her own life Her own tracks and lesser involvement of her in Jagya's life
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tellygeek



On @bold, I think it was relevant to show the scars of the painful past that Anandi still carried with her hidden from everyone else, unknown to her as well. This only hit her after marriage, and she was terrified of this physical closeness. It was not a fear of repeat, she was scared of setting herself free from her own memories. That's what made Shiv so special, for his understanding and friendly nature towards his wife during those days. As beautifully explained by Aparnauma, "he kept drawing a bigger line next to the existing line till they stopped bothering her."


Shiv's behaviour was perfect - just what it should have been. But Anandi's behaviour made it the worst phase - because that was not needed - it is not even necessary to show SR. Let viewers assume that all is well in the marriage. How will J leaving her will make Anandi willing for marriage but resisting physical intimacy?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I also wanted to add I didn't watch the movie Balika Vadhu so why will I get a feeling that they are going to get united!

It was all in the story they showed.Purnendu Shekhar or his team never said that Jagya Anandi will re-unite then they never said that they will not re-unite.The serial makers never give us the guarantee that the couples will be together because they always drags the show and creates story.They never said Shiv-Anandi or Jagya-Ganga will remain together forever.We are believing them to be remain forever together.

And about the redemption of Jagya and the reason of bringing Ganga into Jagya's life,yes she was said to be the redemption of Jagya but they also showed the moments which indicates that she is going to be the love interst of Jagya just like they gave the hint in case of Shiv Anandi and the articles used to come that time also said the same.

Why will we presume that Anandi never wanted to unite with Jagya.Anandi is a character,it was in story writers mind that they will get re-united after Jagya will know the truth about Gauri.But the sudden idea came in their mind and the confusion started what to do.What I believe if Shashank would have quit that time what most of the actors do when focus are shifted on other hero then if the replacement would have happened then probably they would have keep Jagya negative for some more time and then probably vanish him.But it didn't happen,viewers were equally interested in Jagya not to see him getting punished but to see him with Singh's and leading a good life.

Is it very difficult to feel disgusted with a person who commits adultery!No.But we felt for Jagya and when I say we that doesn't mean one two people,its quite a large number of people.We felt for him because creatives showed him in a way so that we will not totally hate him even though he was committing adultery.

About the redemption of Jagya,I will again say not only in BV but among all the shows this grey character got the maximum punishment for his deeds even though he is the lead.We are happy with DS's change. she tortured Anandi,she was no less than Jagya,Alas a DS torturing her Grand daughter in law doesn't comes to the category of adultery otherwise she had committed equal crime but never got punishment.We love her because she showered the love to the person she tortured,she changed the fate of that girl,so we love her.But Jagya's redemption seems not proper to some people because he couldn't directly benefited Anandi.It was shown through Ganga.If he would have been shown doing something for Anandi then it would have been accepted easily.And people had in their mind that he is getting another love interest though he should have remain alone for smae amount of years Annadi was alone.Its was the thought process,which differs from person to person.
Edited by shankythebest - 11 years ago

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