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Posted: 12 years ago
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If you ask me Shiv and Saanchi relation was all good before . Ever since Shiv married Anandi and brought her home the trouble started.
Even today it was very evident that Sanchi spoke so rudely to shiv because she is very angry with Anandi, she didnt want to hurt Shiv but she had to because of this lady who is cause of all misery. What an opposite name she holds Anandi...i think it only applies to herself not for others who live around her.😡
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: naina2010

If you ask me Shiv and Saanchi relation was all good before . Ever since Shiv married Anandi and brought her home the trouble started.

Even today it was very evident that Sanchi spoke so rudely to shiv because she is very angry with Anandi, she didnt want to hurt Shiv but she had to because of this lady who is cause of all misery. What an opposite name she holds Anandi...i think it only applies to herself not for others who live around her.😡



Yes, sanchi is such a glorious girl with glittering values and it is always anandi who is at fault.😡
Then why sugna had no problems with anandi?
Why Mahi and others have no problems with anandi?
It is only sanchi who has problems with anandi. So it is sanchi's fault and by no means anandi's.

When a bahu enters a house, the equations change. The sisters sometimes feel neglected. Sometimes the bahu wants to separate. This is the general situation.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: naina2010

If you ask me Shiv and Saanchi relation was all good before . Ever since Shiv married Anandi and brought her home the trouble started.

Even today it was very evident that Sanchi spoke so rudely to shiv because she is very angry with Anandi, she didnt want to hurt Shiv but she had to because of this lady who is cause of all misery. What an opposite name she holds Anandi...i think it only applies to herself not for others who live around her.😡


They did not show how the relations were before. From the time Sanchi entered the show she was a spoiled brat- insulted everybody, never listened to anybody and never loved anybody truly. It is not Anandi or Shiv's fault. Sanchi is like this only.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

Shiv is kind of hypocritical and also seems flawed/clueless in how he deals with others. He just left it to Anandi to win over everyone. He did not help her get a sense of what his family was like or actively help her adjust and engage with individuals. He also didn't help his family deal with Anandi, instead just shouted at them and still does the same when he finds them ill-treating Anandi.

Instead of merely telling Anandi to leave Sanchi alone he should also talk to Ira and Alok and tell them to keep the lead in dealing with Sanchi. Ira can put responsibility of household on bahu but can't make bahu take responsbility of her kids! Anandi is not Sanchi's mom!

Shiv should know that he has more influence over Sanchi than new-entry Anandi. When he gets time he should deal with Sanchi himself more often than leave Anandi or others to deal with her.

Shekhars have to accept that Sanchi hasn't accepted Anandi a part of her family and life yet. Instead of forcing Anandi on Sanchi they should continue to take care of Sanchi like they used to, earlier. Discussions on Sanchi, main say in her matters should still be there and Anandi shouldn't be involved if Sanchi does not like it.

Shekhars claim they care for Sanchi. But they don't. In SaJa case also they fought for their ego than for Sanchi alone. They are more concerned about Sanchi accepting Anandi or mending her own ways herself or someone else taking care of her than taking any responsibility as her family themselves!

I think Shiv deliberately left it to Anandi to forge relationship with his family members.When he was in Jaitser he made it his business to get to know her family members including Jagya.So I do not find him at fault here on this.Anandi in her own way trying to forge a bond with them.
Others things I do agree - They should not leave the entire responsibility of looking after Sanchi on Anandi.Ira asked Anandi to help Sanchi get familar with BH lifestyle which was not right and now again she left the responsibility of Sanchi's medication entirely on Anandi and this is wrong on the part of a mother.Shiv should take time off and spend with Sanchi.There is onething.
Nobody ever treats Sanchi as an adult.They either excuse her behaviour saying it is her childishness and if they think she is being childish in her thoughts and actions they don't take the effort to correct her behaviour saying she is an adult.
If they think of her as an adult then let her be and let her face the consequences of her actions.If they think she is still a child then they should make efforts to correct her and they do neither.
Anandi is new and she is still trying to understand their nature and thought processes and behavioural pattern.So she shouldn't be burdened with the responsibility of someone like Sanchi whom even they find it difficult to handle.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Fully agree with you Aparna except for the others passing off her behaviour as bachpana always and Anandi too singing the same song as Ira.
Sanchi is well past the age of being a bachi and if all her mistakes keep getting treated as such - then Sanchi will keep getting more and more frustrated and keep doing more and more outrageous things to demand attention as a adult. the wrong kind of attention I admit - but look at the reason why she is so upset first !!!

When Shiv too is upset with Sanchi's rudeness - A explains it off yet again !!! Is that right ?
Is it too much to agree that YES - Sanchi was rude - she was out of line, she had no right to be this hurtful ?

Now - after her nautankis have been exposed and specially her talli act - even Ira and Shiv have stopped passing it off as kiddishness. They realize she is impossibly ill-behaved and insolent and needs a firm hand. So why even then A is singing the same naive, - bechari nadaan balika hai song ?

Ideally - after this last episode - the medicine giving and tray business shud come to a complete full stop and the same be intimated to IRA and Alok and the doctor that this chori-chori chupke chupke is not working.

As rude as Sa is - she is not wrong here in wanting some privacy in her own room from people absolutely finds intolerable and has requested and warned enuf times to stay away.
Edited by hooked - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hooked

Fully agree with you Aparna except for the others passing off her behaviour as bachpana always and Anandi too singing the same song as Ira.

Sanchi is well past the age of being a bachi and if all her mistakes keep getting treated as such - then Sanchi will keep getting more and more frustrated and keep doing more and more outrageous things to demand attention as a adult. the wrong kind of attention I admit - but look at the reason why she is so upset first !!!

When Shiv too is upset with Sanchi's rudeness - A explains it off yet again !!! Is that right ?
Is it too much to agree that YES - Sanchi was rude - she was out of line, she had no right to be this hurtful ?

Now - after her nautankis have been exposed and specially her talli act - even Ira and Shiv have stopped passing it off as kiddishness. They realize she has no maturity and needs a firm hand. So why even then sing the same naive, - bechari nadaan balika hai song ?

Ideally - after this last episode - the medicine giving and tray business shud come to a complete full stop and the same be intimated to IRA and Alok and the doctor that this chori-chori chupke chupke is not working.

That is the trouble with them.They keep singing bachpana song and do nothing to correct the bacchi and explain everything with that.
Anandi was just trying to diffuse the situation but should not have brushed away Sanchi's nastiness as nothing instead should have appealed to him to forgive her nastiness with a heart of a big brother.At least that would have made him feel better.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: naina2010

If you ask me Shiv and Saanchi relation was all good before . Ever since Shiv married Anandi and brought her home the trouble started.

Even today it was very evident that Sanchi spoke so rudely to shiv because she is very angry with Anandi, she didnt want to hurt Shiv but she had to because of this lady who is cause of all misery. What an opposite name she holds Anandi...i think it only applies to herself not for others who live around her.😡

Not true...Anandi at first had tried every way to reach out to Saanchi and never tried to bring separation b/w Shiv and Saanchi...it was Saanchi's own stupid mind who thought now her value has become less in Shiv's life becoz Shiv brought a wife of his own choice and his choice turned out to be completely oppostie of Saanchi's choice...basically Saanchi never truely loved Shiv...first one used to think that she at least repsects and loves Shiv but she didn't...for her it was all about me, mine and myself...had she really loved Shiv she would have known his choice and would have at least tried to respect Anandi just for Shiv's sake...Anandi is tolerating Saanchi just for Shiv and no one else...from time to time Saanchi tried to prove Anandi low in Shiv's eyes without thinking it may even hurt her brother...she tried to get Anandi to blurt out the truth about her love interest under bhaang and was very disappointed to see she said Shiv's name and not Jagya's...why? She should have been happy that Anandi loves Shiv so much but she was sad for her failure...she shouted and spoke ill of Anandi when UD's drama came out in front of her,...at first i was happy to know she cared for Shiv at least but later on it was very clear that she was shouting so much so that she can prove everyone how right she was about Anandi and not becoz she cared for Shiv's life...Saanchi is pure selfish and doesn't even love her own mother...she is a girl who cannot have happy relation with her family without faking so it's very far fetched thing to expect from her to respect Anandi...yes it's true that her dislike for Anandi became hatred also becoz of Shekhars's constant comparision b/w her and Anandi but what about her selfish nature towards her own family?
Edited by libsrocks - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think Shekhars were shown a happy family till Anandi arrived in their house. I also believe Sanchi's been made more negative after AnSh alliance.
She had better relation with family earlier despite her attitude.

They changed her too much and family neglected her a lot, making her negative.

It doesn't seem like she didn't share a good relationship with Shiv earlier or kept Meenu aside, filling her mother's ears or something.

Sanchi feels her life and their house turned upside down since Anandi arrived. This time with medicine and psychiatrist issue she's feeling worse that family is hiding things from her and probably perceive her as mad which is why they want a psychiatrist and her medications.

I won't believe she didn't love Shiv just because she couldn't fake respect for his wife. Would you say Singhs never loved Jagya or were selfish because they preferred to throw him out of the house, snatch hospital and property from him and curse him and his wife - just to punish him for his own choice of life partner and not staying with the one they chose for him? Or Shyam's father and tau sa were selfish men who didn't love him hust because they didn't like him marrying Sugna?

I think every family has certain dreams and ideas about what they'd like to see in their home or not. If some member is averse to the idea of certain kinds of people in their family and doesn't want adjustments that'd have to be made to accomodate/accept a certain person then they're entitled to have their own belief. Sanchi would have preferred someone like Ashima than a total culture shock like Anandi. Shiv has his own life. But it's not compulsory for his family to whole heartedly and instantly accept the one he marries.
Sanchi may be scolded for rudeness for sure but she has the right to her own privacy and right to avoid Anandi. She's not getting any respite from Anandi. That's making things worse.

Shekhars can accept Shiv's choice and start liking Anandi a lot. But they can't force Sanchi to like Anandi and it's absolutely ridiculous to give Sanchi's responsibilities to Anandi!

Sometimes people in a family, including even biological relations do not get along well. It's okay. Distance between them should be respected then. They should be given time and space. Maybe with time things get better.

Lastly if anyone wants peace, they can't get it by forcing themselves on another party or the other party being bashed.
If Shekhars want Sanchi to accept Anandi like they have, then they need to be polite and reason out with her instead of scolding her or forcing situations where she and Anandi are together.

Maybe Sanchi was using this Jagya thing as an experiment also. They rejected her choice first but didn't do so for Shiv-Anandi. They asked her to overhaul her lifestyle and change if she wanted to marry Jagya, but no one asked Anandi to change @ Shekhars'. Sanchi also seems to detest these double standards.

The biggest blunders have been committed by Alok and Daddu who over-praised Anandi in front of everyone and compared existing women in family inferiorly to Anandi. It sowed seeds for trouble.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

I think Shekhars were shown a happy family till Anandi arrived in their house. I also believe Sanchi's been made more negative after AnSh alliance.
She had better relation with family earlier despite her attitude.

They changed her too much and family neglected her a lot, making her negative.

It doesn't seem like she didn't share a good relationship with Shiv earlier or kept Meenu aside, filling her mother's ears or something.

Sanchi feels her life and their house turned upside down since Anandi arrived. This time with medicine and psychiatrist issue she's feeling worse that family is hiding things from her and probably perceive her as mad which is why they want a psychiatrist and her medications.

I won't believe she didn't love Shiv just because she couldn't fake respect for his wife. Would you say Singhs never loved Jagya or were selfish because they preferred to throw him out of the house, snatch hospital and property from him and curse him and his wife - just to punish him for his own choice of life partner and not staying with the one they chose for him? Or Shyam's father and tau sa were selfish men who didn't love him hust because they didn't like him marrying Sugna?

I think every family has certain dreams and ideas about what they'd like to see in their home or not. If some member is averse to the idea of certain kinds of people in their family and doesn't want adjustments that'd have to be made to accomodate/accept a certain person then they're entitled to have their own belief. Sanchi would have preferred someone like Ashima than a total culture shock like Anandi. Shiv has his own life. But it's not compulsory for his family to whole heartedly and instantly accept the one he marries.
Sanchi may be scolded for rudeness for sure but she has the right to her own privacy and right to avoid Anandi. She's not getting any respite from Anandi. That's making things worse.

Shekhars can accept Shiv's choice and start liking Anandi a lot. But they can't force Sanchi to like Anandi and it's absolutely ridiculous to give Sanchi's responsibilities to Anandi!

Sometimes people in a family, including even biological relations do not get along well. It's okay. Distance between them should be respected then. They should be given time and space. Maybe with time things get better.

Lastly if anyone wants peace, they can't get it by forcing themselves on another party or the other party being bashed.
If Shekhars want Sanchi to accept Anandi like they have, then they need to be polite and reason out with her instead of scolding her or forcing situations where she and Anandi are together.

Maybe Sanchi was using this Jagya thing as an experiment also. They rejected her choice first but didn't do so for Shiv-Anandi. They asked her to overhaul her lifestyle and change if she wanted to marry Jagya, but no one asked Anandi to change @ Shekhars'. Sanchi also seems to detest these double standards.

The biggest blunders have been committed by Alok and Daddu who over-praised Anandi in front of everyone and compared existing women in family inferiorly to Anandi. It sowed seeds for trouble.

well said...the problem with anandi is that she seems to handle every person in oen way...she needs to be felxible in her handling people according to the person...shekharsare not singhs and she needsto realize that
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Posted: 12 years ago
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You know I was thinking after reading all discussions and recaptulating various tracks of serial, that the problem of several people with Anandi - Gauri, Sanchi, Jagya, Ira, briefly Choti Ma and also for a while Gehna - is not unfounded either. Nor something to be ignored.

Anandi's been made too much of an ideal and all are supposed to respect her, agree to her or not object to her role in their lives or overhaul themselves completely to "reform" or learn from her/be like her.

Anandi herself has been kind of rigid often. She didn't change and was reluctant when Jagya was with her but learnt English etc. when he ditched her. She still doesn't compromise on the way she dresses up.

She's a really nice person and does want to take care of everybody. The only problem is that she takes care her own way, and often forgets her limits in dealing with a person.

I think she somewhere either basks in glory of attention she gets or gets carried away or feels too obliged...when someone gives her attention/importance/responsibility/asks her help that she forgets to use her brain. For eg., when Nandu wouldn't listen to anyone else but insisted only on being with Anandi then instead of being silent or obliging him always, Anandi should have told him to give priority to his parents first.
In Sanchi's case also, can't Anandi be diplomatic and tell Shekhars to deal with her since Sanchi's close only to them and request not to involve her directly? She can say she cares for Sanchi too which is why she doesn't want things to fall flat lest Sanchi rejects everything if it's done through someone she dislikes (which is Anandi herself).

The wise must also know when and how to keep distance, how to keep something secret in case their interference is necessary in someone else's life (you're talking openly in drawing room and you think you won't be heard?!) or how to establish a bond with someone.

Many characters' individuality in this serial hasn't been respected and they've been made to feel guilty over everything whereas Anandi is this paragon of all virtues. CVs have redeemed Jagya also only after making her a male Anandi, suffering for family and doing kaka-chacha for even the vagabonds he finds on streets, forgetting money and serving only villagers (as if settling in an urban area or wanting to advance more materially in life was a despicable goal to have!). CVs have robbed Ganga of her individuality too - making her "ekdum Anandi jaisi".

Do Anandi jaap or be like Anandi or perish - is the motto of this serial.

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