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Posted: 12 years ago
#21
The thing is that if anyone dislikes you (even for no reason), you should stay away from him /her, specially when you claim to be a well wisher to that person. Everything should have a limit and no one likes interference in own privacy from one whom you hate.
No doubt Anandi thinks good for Sannchi, but when she is a tantrum queen, so rude & so mad at you, give her some space. Everytime dont irritate her with your trays of food & drinks. and obviously not with hidden medicines. Moreover calling her rudeness & misdeed 'bachpana' makes you look immature & sometimes fool.
She is not a child so treat her as an adult, discuss with her if needed and yes give her parents a chance to interact with their 'Bachhi'. They are her parents & should know her more than you. So maintain some distance that will hopefully make the situation a little better.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

You know I was thinking after reading all discussions and recaptulating various tracks of serial, that the problem of several people with Anandi - Gauri, Sanchi, Jagya, Ira, briefly Choti Ma and also for a while Gehna - is not unfounded either. Nor something to be ignored.

Anandi's been made too much of an ideal and all are supposed to respect her, agree to her or not object to her role in their lives or overhaul themselves completely to "reform" or learn from her/be like her.

Anandi herself has been kind of rigid often. She didn't change and was reluctant when Jagya was with her but learnt English etc. when he ditched her. She still doesn't compromise on the way she dresses up.

She's a really nice person and does want to take care of everybody. The only problem is that she takes care her own way, and often forgets her limits in dealing with a person.

I think she somewhere either basks in glory of attention she gets or gets carried away or feels too obliged...when someone gives her attention/importance/responsibility/asks her help that she forgets to use her brain. For eg., when Nandu wouldn't listen to anyone else but insisted only on being with Anandi then instead of being silent or obliging him always, Anandi should have told him to give priority to his parents first.
In Sanchi's case also, can't Anandi be diplomatic and tell Shekhars to deal with her since Sanchi's close only to them and request not to involve her directly? She can say she cares for Sanchi too which is why she doesn't want things to fall flat lest Sanchi rejects everything if it's done through someone she dislikes (which is Anandi herself).

The wise must also know when and how to keep distance, how to keep something secret in case their interference is necessary in someone else's life (you're talking openly in drawing room and you think you won't be heard?!) or how to establish a bond with someone.

Many characters' individuality in this serial hasn't been respected and they've been made to feel guilty over everything whereas Anandi is this paragon of all virtues. CVs have redeemed Jagya also only after making her a male Anandi, suffering for family and doing kaka-chacha for even the vagabonds he finds on streets, forgetting money and serving only villagers (as if settling in an urban area or wanting to advance more materially in life was a despicable goal to have!). CVs have robbed Ganga of her individuality too - making her "ekdum Anandi jaisi".

Do Anandi jaap or be like Anandi or perish - is the motto of this serial.

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No other serial has been this irritating...even in Ekta's serial the bahu is not ultimate goddess...in BV every just overlook Anandi's mistake as her love for others...when Shiv was a new entry i was so happy to see that at least one guy would be able to install some sense in this girl but alas CVs changed his no nonsense attittude to make him ideal for Anandi...if Anandi can tell Shiv to do this or do that than why don't hey ever show Anandi being told off by Shiv to do this or do that.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I thought today atleast anandi wont be bashed, but I am wrong.

It is as if the world will be a better place without anandi.

There is vicarious pleasure in pinning down anandi and bludgeoning her.

People forget that anandi herself was abused by DS, by her own mother, by Jagya, by Gowri. And now Ira and sanchi. Atleast now anandi has Shiv's support and also meenu's. And anandi's own stoicism. Do your duty sincerely. Even if it is bahu's duties of carrying trays and not ignoring anyone. If anandi ignores sanchi, then what is the difference between any ordinary girl and anandi? That will be completely overturning anandi's character, her essence. She is engaging with sanchi because she considers sanchi part of the family. We have to accept anandi as she is.And Ira and sanchi as they are. If they are not what they are there will be no story.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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@libsrocks

Many serials have similar problem - like how Ekta's serials made Tulsi-Parvati the be all and end all of their families or how the whole company wouldn't run properly unless Jassi was there in Jassi Jaisi Koi Nahin.

The lead's glorified too much and her mistakes are overlooked. She's made a bechaari even if she's scolded and ultimately it's the ones who scold her, who have to apologise to her or "reform".

Often others in serials are made vamps and villains for smallest reasons.

The way BV is going, then even Mahi can't live happily if his wife doesn't worship Anandi (in future).

Currently Mahi's lucky that Anandi didn't pursue and further investigate the discovery of girl's scarf in his room. 😆

Sanchi's never left alone really. Anandi even lands up at same coffee shops as her. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

I thought today atleast anandi wont be bashed, but I am wrong.

It is as if the world will be a better place without anandi.

There is vicarious pleasure in pinning down anandi and bludgeoning her.

People forget that anandi herself was abused by DS, by her own mother, by Jagya, by Gowri. And now Ira and sanchi. Atleast now anandi has Shiv's support and also meenu's. And anandi's own stoicism. Do your duty sincerely. Even if it is bahu's duties of carrying trays and not ignoring anyone. If anandi ignores sanchi, then what is the difference between any ordinary girl and anandi? That will be completely overturning anandi's character, her essence. She is engaging with sanchi because she considers sanchi part of the family. We have to accept anandi as she is.And Ira and sanchi as they are. If they are not what they are there will be no story.


I think you are being overly dramatic here.

There is such a phrase as
"to kill somebody with kindness"
to be too kind to someone. Rob's killing me with kindness - he phones me all the time to see if I'm alright when really I just need to be left alone.
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This is what Anandi is doing to Sanchi currently - maybe without realizing that her constant presence and smiles are actually suffocating Sanchi.

It is actually possible. Some people can actually make you feel sick just by being in the same room.
Edited by hooked - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

I think Shekhars were shown a happy family till Anandi arrived in their house. I also believe Sanchi's been made more negative after AnSh alliance.
She had better relation with family earlier despite her attitude.

They changed her too much and family neglected her a lot, making her negative.

It doesn't seem like she didn't share a good relationship with Shiv earlier or kept Meenu aside, filling her mother's ears or something.

Sanchi feels her life and their house turned upside down since Anandi arrived. This time with medicine and psychiatrist issue she's feeling worse that family is hiding things from her and probably perceive her as mad which is why they want a psychiatrist and her medications.

I won't believe she didn't love Shiv just because she couldn't fake respect for his wife. Would you say Singhs never loved Jagya or were selfish because they preferred to throw him out of the house, snatch hospital and property from him and curse him and his wife - just to punish him for his own choice of life partner and not staying with the one they chose for him? Or Shyam's father and tau sa were selfish men who didn't love him hust because they didn't like him marrying Sugna?

I think every family has certain dreams and ideas about what they'd like to see in their home or not. If some member is averse to the idea of certain kinds of people in their family and doesn't want adjustments that'd have to be made to accomodate/accept a certain person then they're entitled to have their own belief. Sanchi would have preferred someone like Ashima than a total culture shock like Anandi. Shiv has his own life. But it's not compulsory for his family to whole heartedly and instantly accept the one he marries.
Sanchi may be scolded for rudeness for sure but she has the right to her own privacy and right to avoid Anandi. She's not getting any respite from Anandi. That's making things worse.

Shekhars can accept Shiv's choice and start liking Anandi a lot. But they can't force Sanchi to like Anandi and it's absolutely ridiculous to give Sanchi's responsibilities to Anandi!

Sometimes people in a family, including even biological relations do not get along well. It's okay. Distance between them should be respected then. They should be given time and space. Maybe with time things get better.

Lastly if anyone wants peace, they can't get it by forcing themselves on another party or the other party being bashed.
If Shekhars want Sanchi to accept Anandi like they have, then they need to be polite and reason out with her instead of scolding her or forcing situations where she and Anandi are together.

Maybe Sanchi was using this Jagya thing as an experiment also. They rejected her choice first but didn't do so for Shiv-Anandi. They asked her to overhaul her lifestyle and change if she wanted to marry Jagya, but no one asked Anandi to change @ Shekhars'. Sanchi also seems to detest these double standards.

The biggest blunders have been committed by Alok and Daddu who over-praised Anandi in front of everyone and compared existing women in family inferiorly to Anandi. It sowed seeds for trouble.


@bold, I do not think it is true. Even when they introduced Sanchi she was like this only. Even at that time we thought her as an arrogant, impulsive, inconsiderate, judgmental, immature character- at that time also Ira and Meenu were worried how Sanchi will react to the news of Shiv's engagement. If she was like other normal girls, why were Ira and Meenu worried for her reaction- she wanted to choose Shiv's bride, but if Shiv himself selected someone and all including the grandfather accepted his choice, then where was the need for family to fear the younger daughter's reaction, unless she was a spoiled brat and would create problem? I remember even at that time forum members could not believe that the youngest member of Shiv's family is so different from other family members. Sanchi was negative from the start and it is not true that she became negative due to Anandi/Ansh marriage.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ leaves -
Well - Sanchi was accepted as she was - spoilt brat and pretty and all smiles as long as things were going her way and throwing a tantrum when they did not.
But it is also true that once Anandi came home - the difference in the nature of these two made Anandi seem like a paragon of virtue and Sanchi a screaming banshee.

This constant comparison and constant praise all the time and so much focus on the new entrant - took away a lot of the limelight that Sanchi had always been used to.

So naturally Sanchi being Sanchi - she decided Anandi was the reason her importance in her own home had lessened and started hating her.

Am not saying anywhere that Anandi was at all to blame - maybe Ira or Meenu as a watchful elder cud have seen why Sanchi was so quiet and angry all the time and tried to do something about it early on.

But it is also true that Sanchi has not hidden her distrust and disgust of Anandi and has asked her enough and more times to stay away from her her and to never come into her room.

And It is true - Anandi passes it all off blithly as - "bachpana" and enters her room everyday with a tray and some excuse.
Edited by hooked - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Here many people hate anandi.
Sanchi also hates anadi.
Thus a sympathy towards sanchi is developing.
It is like my enemy's enemy is my friend.

Soon sanchi will be turned into another gowri and worshipped.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

Here many people hate anandi.
Sanchi also hates anadi.
Thus a sympathy towards sanchi is developing.
It is like my enemy's enemy is my friend.

Soon sanchi will be turned into another gowri and worshipped.😆


This has been a reasonably logical discussion on this thread without any fan groups or bashing.
Even all time Anandi supporters are feeling that the CV's are shoving her down Sanchi's throat and most everyone agrees that is not a good thing.

Sanchi is not going to become a gowri and be worshipped - but what is wrong is wrong.
Just bcoz a certain someone does it - doesn't mean it is always right and just bcoz Sanci does something - that cannot be always wrong.

We have gray shades here too
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hooked

@ leaves -

Well - Sanchi was accepted as she was - spoilt brat and pretty and all smiles as long as things were going her way and throwing a tantrum when they did not.
But it is also true that once Anandi came home - the difference in the nature of these two made Anandi seem like a paragon of virtue and Sanchi a screaming banshee.

This constant comparison and constant praise all the time and so much focus on the new entrant - took away a lot of the limelight that Sanchi had always been used to.

So naturally Sanchi being Sanchi - she decided Anandi was the reason her importance in her own home had lessened and started hating her.

Am not saying anywhere that Anandi was at all to blame - maybe Ira or Meenu as a watchful elder cud have seen why Sanchi was so quiet and angry all the time and tried to do something about it early on.

But it is also true that Sanchi has not hidden her distrust and disgust of Anandi and has asked her enough and more times to stay away from her her and to never come into her room.

And It is true - Anandi passes it all off blithly as - "bachpana" and enters her room everyday with a tray and some excuse.



When Ira herself is saying bachpana, anandi must also be thinking the same. In a way it is bachpana, not growing up on sanchi's part.

Anandi cant be faulted if somebody praises her. She cant stay stop it, stop it.

As for trays, even sumitra, ganga carry trays. Trays are a bahana to create interactions. anandi cant enter with a book in hand and interact with sanchi as it is CVs who decide how anandi enters sanchi's room.

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