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vasiraju

@vasiraju

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Posted: 12 years ago

#91

Heya girls ..i didn't go through entire Thread ..but got the idea on the whole 😃..

I really want to see when the cv's are going to open the Gauri chapter again ,by seeing the way the track is going ..its really hard it think Gauri will comeback or not..

if she comes even now to share the life with jagiya ..she should be allowed and even jagiya should accept to be her husband with out any next thought ...because past is past and we can't say who is wrong and who is right ..both of them did mistake ..Jagiya didn't do any justice to Guari ..just because he came back to his house that doesn't mean he is all good what he did with gauri ..they both are failed to maintain the married life ..

If she don't want to patch up than show us that she is happy with her career Life and want to achieve more in her career ..and don't want indulge herself in marriage and family relationships .

i will be happy on both the situations ..A women destination is not only the marriage , life is more than marriage ..its her decision what she wants to became and achieve in life .

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lovesunshine

@lovesunshine

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Posted: 12 years ago

#92

Originally posted by: Chytra
Hmm you have point sunshine but we are talking about Indian community here.
Changes and equality and rights are good in books and new papers and debates but when it comes to reality the picture is entirely different. Recently i saw a picture from newspaper where the contestants are women because of the reservation they have in that area. But the contestants was standing near the door watching away where their husbands are filing their respective nominations. That is the situation with women.

Our's is patriarchal(men) based community. Even if you look in vedas , there were several qualities listed for what a wife should have there is no such yard stick again for the guys. Restrictions apply only for woman. Even in west , when wars wage, wealth and woman are carrified off by the winners as if wealth(commodity) == women.

Where is the equality of women we want to talk about?. If i say this people will say let the society talk why do she/he has to care?? They have to care because they choose to live in a society not in a forest. if you choose to live in society then even if the system is not quite right you will have to obey it and try to change it with time. I believe given time, the loneliness and emptiness will teach enough lesson to gauri. If that's not enough the upbringing of child or question posed by the baby/society will open her eyes for realization of her mistake. being a single mother is far more easier in talk but reality sucks.

Bottomline even society give chances to men compared to woman. If a man stray woman has to adjust and weave her nest tight. if a woman does the same she will be ill treated by everyone she knows and her life will be miserable. I have seen divorced guys with kids get married faster than woman with kids. If she has baggage it's a no. If he has a baggage, he is giving you life accept that baggage with grin. such is our society. Which is evolving and will keep on evolving to times unknown.

chytra its a sad truth abt the society i agree...but preachy shows like BV need to show the change happening..if they show widow remarriage, divorcee remarriage then why cant they show gauri's redemption?

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vasiraju

@vasiraju

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Posted: 12 years ago

#93

If jagiya is that changed person as they are showing now ..If he really cares about the women feelings ..the first step he should visit Gauri and let her know that his family wants him to marry again ..if she want to change and be with him ..he will make his family to accept her as DIL ..

it is the minimum expectation from a men when he wants to end the relationship and start a new one ..by that he won't risk the other women life that entering in his life ..

Imagine tomorrow Gauri enters with a kid and asks for justice what will he answers ..

even in western countries they will be very clear once they end the relationship .. though whatever the reasons for break up .

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Posted: 12 years ago

#94

Originally posted by: lovesunshine
[@Samvi

red highlighted sentence...its bang on..and wonderfully said👏kudos to you..

i think again cV's redeemed the MCP's and people like rapists basant and his father...then why not gauri...

if i look at this in the bigger picture overall the cv's have portrayed that men can redeem, and can be accepted even if they have done two/ three marriages (jagya) and raped women...but if a women commits grave mistakes like in case of gauri ...there is no way out for her ...

why cant gauri be shown as redeemed? i dont think gauri is as bad as basant or his father who were rapists..😡

also this is the very reason i think women should support and understand each other rather than pointing out each others mistake and getting insecure jealous of other women...

see even here on the forum jagya is getting all the attention and consideration because he is shown as redeemed on the show...

but gauri is not because the cv's have not redeemed her..

in fact i will never really like jagya completely because all these situations arised because JAGYA STRAYED from anandi and lied to both the women and got both the women involved with him, physically, mentally and emotionally...

the redemption of jagya is good but still i will never call im doodh ka dhula..

Thanks Ash for agreeing with me.

@ red - I agree that Gauri was never as bad as Basant. I brought up this crime for the same reason.. this was the worst crime they creatives showed in this serial . It was actually nice that the CV's brought this change in them and showed the world how bad it was of them(the two men) to do that. But what i can't agree with is that this is a men vs women issue. It is a well known fact that Gauri supported , loved , cuddled and got ready to bear a child for an MCP just by being his mistress..not even as his wife. And in turn she abused another woman plus victim anandi then. So Gauri's acts can't be supported in the pretext of her being a woman. She harmed another woman. If you pity one woman(Anandi), u can't pity this woman, Gauri. But You rightly said in another sentence, Jagya is forgiven because he is redeemed. I believe REDEMPTION in the key here. any man or woman who redeems and gets punished enough can be forgiven. This is not about men or women. It is about Redemtion Vs Arrogance . CV's should bring back gauri. If they can't make her the Haveli Bahu , they should atleast give her a proper closure. But this way of suddenly removing her from script...J going to her on listening to ganga's advice and writing down a Sorry letter is all crap.

@blue - Ash, that's a good thing. We can cuss people when they are bad...and appreciate them when they change. I actually liked the was the CV's changed J. He was just a strayed sheep...but never an evil guy from the beginning. He was good once...after all this mishap, he learnt his lessons and is being good now which we can appreciate. I hope the CV's do this with Gauri too. She was also not an evil one from the beginning. Her parents were the culprits. They can be banished but not Gauri. Like i said in my previous post, Gauri's character should be given either a proper closure, or punished/redeemed...Whatever it is she has to be back before this guy marries someone else!

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ExcuseMePlz

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Posted: 12 years ago

#95

Originally posted by: vasiraju
If jagiya is that changed person as they are showing now ..If he really cares about the women feelings ..the first step he should visit Gauri and let her know that his family wants him to marry again ..if she want to change and be with him ..he will make his family to accept her as DIL ..

it is the minimum expectation from a men when he wants to end the relationship and start a new one ..by that he won't risk the other women life that entering in his life ..

Imagine tomorrow Gauri enters with a kid and asks for justice what will he answers ..

even in western countries they will be very clear once they end the relationship .. though whatever the reasons for break up .

Jagya went to gauri to apologize to her and perhaps he would have cleared that whether he wants to live with gauri or not.But gauri didn't meet him.He was waiting for hours but gauri make him sit outside her cabin.Then the nurse said to him that gauri has gone.Thats why he wrote the letter to gauri.Gauri is not interested in meeting him and clearing things.So he can't go to her everyday to clear things to her.Its pretty clear that as gauri hasn't meet him neither she answered his letter so she has no interest in solving issues with jagya.If now in future she comes up with a kid then it will be her selfishness.Though jagya is not ready to marry,he is marrying because of family and anandi's pressure but if we expect that only jagya has to make efforts to mend his relationship then its wrong.Gauri has done nothing to save this relationship and its almost 10 months.This time gauri was at fault but she has done nothing except showing attitude and anger.What kind of anger it is that she is fostering it for almost a year,she made the mistake so why will jagya make efforts.Its unfair!

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maria13

@maria13

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Posted: 12 years ago

#96

Gauri cheated her partner ,lied to him broke his trust , even hid truth of his child death Used him for her revenge threw him out of her life Go where ever i don't care , instead of asking forgiveness she is showing off attitude what this maa ka ladla will do i did it so what ,she doesn't care for even his life , When Jagaya was like this ever to her tell me one incident? He was angry at her too during Badi massi's incident she nearly killed his badi massi despite his requesting to her many times please don't open mouth in front of her but no she didn't listen, she ruined his career , due to her carelessness his child died he numerous times stopped her not to drive in pregnancy but still he forgot all his anger never taunted to her once for it and took care of her so well when she had an accident on contrary here this woman was at fault she came to know he is so sick she says i don't care , she rejects him Again she rejects him when he went to talk with her thrice she cruelly rejected him after several years she will be coming back at her own wish but she should be accepted by him Why because she is a woman Pretty funny theory

So all theories applies on men only Thats we call equality ? . Jagaya at least cared for Anandi's life He became restless and came running to save her when she was kidnapped never ever counted this in front of anyone but still we all wanted Anandi should never accept him back Absolutely right so why this theory doesn't apply to this woman naming Gauri who is shameless enough to reject her so called true love in biggest time of need and fault was hers ?just because she is a woman and what justice he didnt give her which justice she was asking from him ?She wanted to be accepted by family so he was making his way to enter there but all of sudden she developed enmity with them behind his back so its his fault?she wanted him to leave his family forever that justice he should have given to her , she wanted him to blacken Anandi;s character This justice she wanted from him? if we call him MCP so what she was a WCP she was no so saint she always wanted to dominate him she is right and he is below her and the child she bore with her selfish purpose First one she never wanted to have he asked her later she used it as tool to keep him with her and when died again she used the incident to make things bitter between him and Anandi next child her challenge as soon as she lost she was sitting in abortion now don't know she kept it or killed it?

Basant and his dad if did wrong they lost a lot in their life as well Basant has seen his child's death as well His dad has spend his time in jail and not taking any relief from his child and grandson living alone in repentance for his sins Jagaya lost Anandi , His two relationships failed and now he is living dead body who has no desire left to live for himself he only exists for his family The reward he will get will be for his good works but still he lost a lot Evil person even he wasn't

Dadisaa got so many slaps The marriage she did with so much love and dreams shattered in front of her eyes she lost it but Gauri and her parents so many great people so less sinners that they should be rewarded with everything Why? Examples are given for equality then do equality if others are redeemed and forgiven they lost too why this woman should not lose Was she so much saint or her parents were so great ?

Why is that Jagaya is suppose to do everything why not so called self claimed wronged woman do anything ? she is only here to sit and eat What is her redemption by the way ? Jagaya feeding in her mouth 🤢why is his redemption questioned all the time and whats man and woman here ? Gauri is a woman so what ? Are there no woman here who do wrong and never redeem ?. Dadisaa is a woman as well was wrong . redeemed Gauri will also be when her character will be needed shown but seriously this is too much so much sympathy for her on basis of feminism only and keep beating Jagaya just because he is man he is redeemed Gauri is woman she is not 😳 we are asking for equality and doing man and woman here we ourselves are doing differences

Jagaya was beaten black and blue when he was wrong no one supported him but why we should put all blame on his head? He is not dhoodh ka dhula hoa so even Gauri is not Both had a lot of differences in their consciences Jagaya 's conscience never gave up Gauri was almost dead so everything was clear who has more chances of redemption who has less so why it is a issue? and why Jagaya cannot be appreciated if he is right Gauri is even so much sympathized supported when she is wrong same we never did for Jagaya i wonder the day Gauri was shown redeemed she will become princess of this forum 🥱

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vasiraju

@vasiraju

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Posted: 12 years ago

#97

Originally posted by: shankythebest

Jagya went to gauri to apologize to her and perhaps he would have cleared that whether he wants to live with gauri or not.But gauri didn't meet him.He was waiting for hours but gauri make him sit outside her cabin.Then the nurse said to him that gauri has gone.Thats why he wrote the letter to gauri.Gauri is not interested in meeting him and clearing things.So he can't go to her everyday to clear things to her.Its pretty clear that as gauri hasn't meet him neither she answered his letter so she has no interest in solving issues with jagya.If now in future she comes up with a kid then it will be her selfishness.Though jagya is not ready to marry,he is marrying because of family and anandi's pressure but if we expect that only jagya has to make efforts to mend his relationship then its wrong.Gauri has done nothing to save this relationship and its almost 10 months.This time gauri was at fault but she has done nothing except showing attitude and anger.What kind of anger it is that she is fostering it for almost a year,she made the mistake so why will jagya make efforts.Its unfair!

I agree whatever you said shanky ..jagiya wants to move on ..either its family pressure or anything ..he is going to start a new life ..giving a Life long post to another women ..Than he should be shot sure that nothing from his past hit him in his future ..

i am not saying he should go apologies or do something to get her back..But having a relationship for years ..and once she bared his kid and they had unprotected physical closeness which can lead to anywhere ..

last time he met to say sorry ..where ganga is not even accepting and may be she don't want to face the past that she left behind as nightmare ..whatever her feelings ..jagiya don't know whether she wants to move on..or not..or may she don't want show him her bump when he came to see her and don't want to let him know she is pregnant..

if he wants to move on so try for one last time to let her know he wants to move on ...Its really important to intimate her for his better future .its not that easy to leave a girl who had relationship for years just saying that he won't want to stay with her ..just because she has no status of legally wedded wife,that is really unethical...if she legally wedded wife he would ask for divorce..then both sides of lawyers will be well know about their clients present status ..if it is on mutual agreement than it won't look as jagiya going for guari ..it will look like as he wants to say gauri that he wants end the marriage for good..and it would be gauri decision to let him know she is pregnant or having a kid ..if she don't want to than she will never show up in to his life once for all ..

Just imagine if as everyone saying Gauri may really gone as Mad and sick women because in pregnancy the woman will be very weak mentally ..and she is admitted in asylum and her parents died for some reason ..and she has kid who is orphan now who is responsible for all this directly or indirectly 😳...with in one year anything can happen 😆..just because he left her as a doctor doesn't mean the things wont change 😉

so its better to jagiya make sure how is Gauri leading her life ..what her present position in her life ..is she financially secured or not what is her present state of mind ..before he is going to take big step .. so that he can live a peaceful life with his new wife

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Suchi-

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Posted: 12 years ago

#98

Nice discussion.

I really like JaGan but reality is,

Gauri is the mother of his child and a woman who shared his life for 7 years.

He cannot just let that go with a simple letter.

I can understand if the breakup was between girl friend and boyfriend.. who have a say or two and vow to never see each other's faces. But in this case,

they were married. Yes not legal but , to the world (of mumbai) they were a couple.

The burden now lies on Gauri to contact Jagya. He made his efforts and she didn't respond. And if she responds eventually, and wishes to redeem then I think more than Ganga, Gauri deserves the chance.

Unless he really does not love her anymore and is in love with Ganga. Then yes, Gauri and Jagya should not be together because then he will do the sam thing he did before. Being in love with Gauri but still be with Anandi...making lives miserable for both Anandi and Gauri.

I think at one point.. this situation will arise. Where jagya will have to choose between Gauri and Ganga. Where Gauri will be redeemed. She will realize she was wrong. She will apologize to Bhairav and Anandi , two people she had wronged the most.

There wil be a child involved.

At that time the question will be

1) Does the child deserve the love of two parents under one roof? And should Gauri and Jagya marry for this reason.

2) Does Jagya love gauri? or is he in love with Ganga?

3) Will he sacrifice his love towards Ganga to be with Gauri , just so that they can be parents to their child?

4) What will ganga feel about all of this.

5) Will gauri agree to have a husband, yet again in the same position that she had once, before .. who loved someone else and not the one who he is married to.

Will gauri be in Anandi's shoes?

==I think this track will be the MOST interesting track for me at least.

Now that Anandi's story is kind of complete and she is to look forward to whats in store for her in future.. the spot light will be Gauri Ganga and Jagya.

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lovesunshine

@lovesunshine

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Posted: 12 years ago

#99

Originally posted by: shankythebest

Jagya went to gauri to apologize to her and perhaps he would have cleared that whether he wants to live with gauri or not.But gauri didn't meet him.He was waiting for hours but gauri make him sit outside her cabin.Then the nurse said to him that gauri has gone.Thats why he wrote the letter to gauri.Gauri is not interested in meeting him and clearing things.So he can't go to her everyday to clear things to her.Its pretty clear that as gauri hasn't meet him neither she answered his letter so she has no interest in solving issues with jagya.If now in future she comes up with a kid then it will be her selfishness.Though jagya is not ready to marry,he is marrying because of family and anandi's pressure but if we expect that only jagya has to make efforts to mend his relationship then its wrong.Gauri has done nothing to save this relationship and its almost 10 months.This time gauri was at fault but she has done nothing except showing attitude and anger.What kind of anger it is that she is fostering it for almost a year,she made the mistake so why will jagya make efforts.Its unfair!

yes i agree gauri showed attitude. when jagya tried to meet her and give closure to the relationship properly. However, Here the discussion is why cv's are not showing that gauri has redeemed? many viewers want aguri to accept her grave mistakes and redeem herself... and carry on with her life... that they are not shwoing ...just because anjum left you can remove a character completely out of the script without a proper clsoure...i do want gauri to be part of BV..

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ExcuseMePlz

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Posted: 12 years ago

#100

Gauri will surely be back,not anjoom but another actress perhaps,but she will obviously be back.When sanchi will be out from the picture gauri will definitely step on sanchi's shoes.Till now cvs never showed any intention of redeeming gauri.Probably they are thinking to use gauri as the antagonist in the future also.

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