What is the message of Urmi Devi Fiasco??

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Posted: 12 years ago
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When Anandi finds out the truth about DS She shared it with Shiv and Shiv told her thatn "kisi ki bhalai ke liye bola gaya jhooth saosach ke barabar hota ghai'. This is true and said by Lord Krishna Geeta, This is also mentioned in bible and I have read Kuran (hindi version) and this message is in kuran also.

Now i have two points for which I am confused, you all are welcome to clear mt confusion😕:

  1. By showing Urmi Devi fiasco, aren't they (CVs/writers) saying that a divorcee girl from bad bal vivah can't be happy???
  2. above mentioned saying from Geeta and all other holy book is nothing but a lie??

Please clear my confusion without using actors name because they are not involved but character name can be mentioned in relative context.😕

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Posted: 12 years ago
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But such lie should not affect anybody else's life. Here in this case, Urmi devi's daughter's life is affected acc to urmi.(Why can't a good eligible girl can't find a better suitor is quite another debate). So it was DS's mistake.

Though she didn't intend any harm, she acted selfish thinking about only Anandi's life and she forgot about Urmi devi's daughter's life. So it is wrong.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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"Kisi ki bhalai ke liye bola gaya jhuth, sach ke barabar hota hai" but DS told lies not for anyone's bhalai- she was plain selfish there- she wanted Anandi-Shiv marriage (Anandi was not even ready for marriage at that time and DS did not know that Shiv has started liking Anandi by that time), she just wanted that UD should not pursue the marriage proposal of her daughter with Shiv and therefore told such lies. If Anandi and Shiv were in love at that time but their marriage looked doubtful because Shiv's family was in favour of UD's daughter, then those lies could be assumed to be for Shiv-Anandi's bhalai. Here DS actions degraded Shiv and fooled UD (I will not say DS broke UD's daughter's rishta because Urmi believed an unknown woman's word and did not verify the things herself).
The message of this fiasco may be that "what goes around comes around" soch samajh kar kam karna chahiye otherwise we will be left to regret our own actions. Another message with reference to Shiv and Anandi is that we should not hide things. They could have tell the family when they came to know of DS deeds.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think what DS did was wrong.Agreed that she was doing it for a good purpose but still means do not justify the ends.
Both means and the ends are equally important.

As for UD it was all her fault.She was the one who spoilt her daughter's life by making decisions in haste.She just heard some one say that the person is not good enough and she did not proceede with the alliance.She did not bother to counter check and see whether it is true and also without knowing about Shiv properly she went on to slander him.

As for the attitudes DS was repentant and realised the consequences of her act.She was ready to meet Shekhars and apologise.

UD was not in the least bit repentant she continues to blame others for her mistake.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sunna_Deewani

But such lie should not affect anybody else's life. Here in this case, Urmi devi's daughter's life is affected acc to urmi.(Why can't a good eligible girl can't find a better suitor is quite another debate). So it was DS's mistake.

Though she didn't intend any harm, she acted selfish thinking about only Anandi's life and she forgot about Urmi devi's daughter's life. So it is wrong.



@Bold: Seriously! It's almost like they're saying that Shiv and Jagya were the only eligible men in the whole of Rajasthan, and now that Urmi Devi's daughter can't marry one, she has to go for the other. 🤪


I agree that what DS did was wrong, but the CVs should be showing that there are plenty more fish in the sea! I don't see why they are making out that because Urmi Devi's daughter lost one rishta, she's dooomed... 😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

I think what DS did was wrong.Agreed that she was doing it for a good purpose but still means do not justify the ends.

Both means and the ends are equally important.

As for UD it was all her fault.She was the one who spoilt her daughter's life by making decisions in haste.She just heard some one say that the person is not good enough and she did not proceede with the alliance.She did not bother to counter check and see whether it is true and also without knowing about Shiv properly she went on to slander him.

As for the attitudes DS was repentant and realised the consequences of her act.She was ready to meet Shekhars and apologise.

UD was not in the least bit repentant she continues to blame others for her mistake.


i agree with that point to some extent...UD was stupid to have believed any stranger no matter whether she is old or not...she could have listen to her and than at least once counter-check whether what she came to know about Shiv was true or not...she just broke the alliance without any knowledge 😲
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SiriuslySujal



@Bold: Seriously! It's almost like they're saying that Shiv and Jagya were the only eligible men in the whole of Rajasthan, and now that Urmi Devi's daughter can't marry one, she has to go for the other. 🤪


I agree that what DS did was wrong, but the CVs should be showing that there are plenty more fish in the sea! I don't see why they are making out that because Urmi Devi's daughter lost one rishta, she's dooomed... 😕

what about Prathmesh? is he already married...never mind try for someone outside Rajathan...you know the way every character they bring in BV is Rajasthani it makes me wonder does any person from any other culture even exists in BV and do they live in Rajasthan...i haven't seen any Muslim or any migrant of some other state 😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

I think what DS did was wrong.Agreed that she was doing it for a good purpose but still means do not justify the ends.

Both means and the ends are equally important.

As for UD it was all her fault.She was the one who spoilt her daughter's life by making decisions in haste.She just heard some one say that the person is not good enough and she did not proceede with the alliance.She did not bother to counter check and see whether it is true and also without knowing about Shiv properly she went on to slander him.

As for the attitudes DS was repentant and realised the consequences of her act.She was ready to meet Shekhars and apologise.

UD was not in the least bit repentant she continues to blame others for her mistake.



very well put!
i totally agree!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks Sunna_Deewani, SPuja and Appu for the reply. Now another confusion of mine is:

  • I do not live in India and unfortunately didn't visit or attend any social event forvlast 10 yrs, only visited India for Business purpose but I keep hearing from my mother that how India progressed that even in arrange marriage process now a girl can reject the would be groom. When society is progressing this much then Uemi Devi's statement means a completely Bogus that "Jahaan bhi meri beti ke rishta ki baat chalti hai, Ladke wale ko Shiv ke saath Rishta tootne ki khabar humse pehle mil jaati hai.".
  • 1st of all when her daughter's rishta (marriage) was fixed with Shiv? I remember when my parents decided to look for suitable girl for my IAS Collector brother, 100s of girl's proposal came but we pick only one that doesn't mean rest of the girls didn't get married. I know some of them who are settle here in US and are very happy with their family. The point is one side they (Shekhars and Urmi Devi) are shown very modern (not their thinking), open with each other but at the same time when comes to actual openness for the society's bad and old customs / rituals where they really should show modern values and openness, then they don't.😆😆
Is that mean that village at village are more modern and open for everything. Thank god they shoerd Anandi just as a divorcee, just think what if CVs would have shown her a child widow and still Shiv had fall for her then what Saanchi, Ira, CmM's reaction would be???😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: libsrocks

what about Prathmesh? is he already married...never mind try for someone outside Rajathan...you know the way every character they bring in BV is Rajasthani it makes me wonder does any person from any other culture even exists in BV and do they live in Rajasthan...i haven't seen any Muslim or any migrant of some other state 😕



Good point! They should show an inter-religious or inter-community marriage... I think that would be a great message. They could introduce some guy for Saanchi who's from a different community or religion... but nooo, they've got to make her chase after Jagya. 🤢

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