18thMay WU: Anandi reaches Badi Haveli with Sanchi

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aparnauma

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Posted: 12 years ago

#21

Thanks for the well written update.

I don't know why Anandi have to be there at the Haweli at this time.Now the family of prospective bride of J will meet his ex wife, a wanna be wife, and another woman who role in his life is not yet revealed.😕

As for Shiv why did he have to agree to his wife's every wish?If he has like to indulge his wife's wishes so much why doesn't he ask her what she wants to do with her life so that she will start thinking about it?

Sanchi - Doesn't she need to go to college?She decides to accompany her sister in law and the whole family accepts it and asks no questions.I cannot understand what kind of people Shekhars are.Or they are as blind as Singhs.

Sanchi's fixation on Jagya - pathetic and I hope Jagya puts a stop this soon.

The much awaited UD/DS showdown seems to have taken a different direction altogether.

UD seems all set to pounce on Collector's wife when she was in no way responsible for breaking of her daughter's alliance with the collector.I hope the unscrupulous DS and blind in love CS set the record straight.

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aparnauma

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Posted: 12 years ago

#22

@anita and kushi - I agree with you on all the points that you both of mentioned.

Anandi was conditioned to bow down before the wishes of her in laws.She did not know how to divide her time and energy between her husband and her inlaws.Neither her parents nor Singhs told her of this balancing act she needed to perform.She was too young to realise that balancing act was the need of the hour.

She was too young and inexperienced and her husband was equally young and immature.This was one of the reasons for the failure of their marriage which happened at a very young age and they were too young to understand that give and take is needed to keep the marriage going.

That's why I hoped with this KB track they would show Shiv and Anandi two mature individuals balancing their need to have time for themselves and time spent on caring for the family as a contrast to Jagya and Anandi.

But it looks like CVs are only interested in showing the ideal bahu and the ideal husband who is content with an ideal bahu as his wife.

One more thing about A and S cutting short their honey moon I think it was more related to the kidnapping and the consequences of that made them cut short their honeymoon and they wanted to be back home because they both needed to be surrounded by the comforting presence of the family.They both were shaken by the kidnapping and the marriage that almost happened and when Sumi mentioned her nightmare to A she was totally spooked.

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redapple1

@redapple1

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Posted: 12 years ago

#23

Aparna:I feel Anandi is behaving exactly the way she was being raised. Her mom is Sumitra. That explains why Anandi concentrates more on pleasing in-laws than spouse. Sumitra even after becoming grandma concentrates more on pleasing dadisa and doesn't even feel the uneasiness of her own son.

The message which is loud and clear is "Girls/ladies don't spend time on your education or career, just learn "How to be ideal bahu", "How to say 'I do' to joint families", "How to find a wealthy bachelor"

Shekar parivaar didn't put constraint to send their dil to maika. Ideal husband Shiv is so understanding that he doesn't mind to send his wife to Jaitser where her ex lives. With this kind of storyline the message will be "Don't send your dil to maika nor bring a dil who is a divorcee". I never see Singh's bahus visit their maika, nor Suguna visiting her maika. But ex dil turned daughter should show up when they miss her. It is very strange Sumitra doesn't miss her own daughter or grand kids. 😕 In this whole scenario poor Kajan Singh lost his only daughter.
Jagya is so lucky to have so many girls in his life. 😉 A former love, unwanted lover, unnamed relationship friend all in a same room :) :) I thought I see all these kind of weird stories in American soaps. Who knew even Indian soaps are following that path that too serials revolving stories of Indian villages.
This is an old article published six months ago http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/arts/television/indian-soap-operas-ruled-by-mothers-in-law.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 Avika is in that article.

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Jan50

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Posted: 12 years ago

#24

Redapple, urban Indians are becoming like westerners. The urban girls are worse than the assertive

American woman. At least they know that they have to earn and contribute equally to family welfare

And hence equal rights. Indian urban girls want it both ways. They want an "ideal" prize bull, superdashing but zooru kaa gulam. Look at the all dowry cases they come up with. I have heard about brides who make it a condition that honey moon will be in Singapore or Australa and guy's

Parents should not live with him but she has a right to make her parents live with her.

Bv is showing all that is happening in real life.

We have to be open to things like divorce. As people are independent and have their own minds

It is going to happen. Women should not tolerate abuse and also men. I find within any system

Modern or traditional some people are over assertive, selfish and tough. They get their way.

For example Ds. She is orthodox, but i am sure she was never a Submissive bahu like Sumi.

Her husband doted on her and she had no MIL to answer to.she would get her way no matter.

Here I dont blame J too juch because half his faults were because of DS. And his own parents

Not taking charge in parenting. Completely gave control to DS. We are all sympathetic to

Anandi for Bal vivah. What about J. Did he have a say? Men's hormons are wild. It is an

Accepted fsct. He was tossed bet 2 cutures at yhe delicate age. Hence the marriage failed.

Shouldnt we also blame Kazaan and Bhago for handing over their parenting to Singhs?

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Jan50

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Posted: 12 years ago

#25

Any way , iam happy that Urmila Devi is back with a bang and tear Ds And Anandi to pieces.

That too in front of Sanchi. Ds has gotten away with too much non sense with out being judged

By any one including the righteous Anandi.

In fact Iam beginjng to like Sanchi track. However rude she might be, she is coming up with

Some interesting points. So far she has only been shooting her mouth. May be the cvs will show sme positives about her too. Definitely right now she is more interesting than Anandi.

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SPuja

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: Jan50
Redapple, urban Indians are becoming like westerners. The urban girls are worse than the assertive
American woman. At least they know that they have to earn and contribute equally to family welfare

And hence equal rights. Indian urban girls want it both ways. They want an "ideal" prize bull, superdashing but zooru kaa gulam. Look at the all dowry cases they come up with. I have heard about brides who make it a condition that honey moon will be in Singapore or Australa and guy's

Parents should not live with him but she has a right to make her parents live with her.

Bv is showing all that is happening in real life.

We have to be open to things like divorce. As people are independent and have their own minds

It is going to happen. Women should not tolerate abuse and also men. I find within any system

Modern or traditional some people are over assertive, selfish and tough. They get their way.

For example Ds. She is orthodox, but i am sure she was never a Submissive bahu like Sumi.

Her husband doted on her and she had no MIL to answer to.she would get her way no matter.

Here I dont blame J too juch because half his faults were because of DS. And his own parents

Not taking charge in parenting. Completely gave control to DS. We are all sympathetic to

Anandi for Bal vivah. What about J. Did he have a say? Men's hormons are wild. It is an

Accepted fsct. He was tossed bet 2 cutures at yhe delicate age. Hence the marriage failed.

Shouldnt we also blame Kazaan and Bhago for handing over their parenting to Singhs?

@bold above, I beg to disagree. Most of the urban women are educated and sensible. Our serials present a very lopsided view. In BV only rural girls are sensible, city based girls - Gauri and Sanchi are shown either scheming/plotting or rude and immature. It is not correct. Good and bad persons are there in urban as well as rural place.

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redapple1

@redapple1

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Posted: 12 years ago

#27

@Jan50: I don't want to generalize and don't want to club all of urban girls into one category. Also we cannot judge the culture based on a soap.
I was talking about the context of BV show. The creatives are only showing village girls to be sensible and urban girls dimwits.

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divine_ram

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: redapple1
@Jan50: I don't want to generalize and don't want to club all of urban girls into one category. Also we cannot judge the culture based on a soap.
I was talking about the context of BV show. The creatives are only showing village girls to be sensible and urban girls dimwits.

They r showing it for rural girls...

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mahi12

@mahi12

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Posted: 12 years ago

#29

Thank you for update dear and i liked your username 😆

Got time to see the episode now Sanchi giving shocks and getting shocks, her badtameez dil going out of control

Sanchi shocked her family by happily suggesting she will go with Anandi to Jaitser to give her company They are happy she is getting some sense and also bonding with Anandi now but actually she is eyeing on Dr Jagdish thats why found love for Jaitser too and going with Anandi as she is getting opportunity to meet him with this .Anandi has started to doubt her

Dadisaa is always so adorable with Makhan Kaka 😆Anandi arriving at wrong time at haveliGlad there was no flood of tears in Bharat milap of Anandi with Dadisaa , Sumi and Gehna

Sanchi's badtameez dil , what to say about her , The time she entered the house , her eyes were searching only for Jagaya , asked from Dadisaa about him and rushed to meet him raising doubts of Anandi .She entered his room without his permission , sprayed perfume on him to surprise him , how she was so freely flirting with him 😳 Saying to him I brought this gift for you matching your personality dashing , divine , sensitive , seeing his childhood photo you looked so dashing even in childhood , i am sure you will look dashing as groom even now. Really i am amazed at this girl .😳She cannot even for once see her acts are making the person so uncomfortable All she cares she has to pull him towards her .She is drooling over him out of control ., mostly on his physical appeal , his good looks. I hope Jagaya understands all this soon and put a stop to her advances though he do have doubt on her even now but i wonder will she really stop 🤔 .After seeing her in this episode i am sure she will do a lot mess she wants to marry him She is going crazy for him even she is developing jealousy and possessiveness in her as well 😳

I loved Jagaya Ganga's conversation Though it was general conversation but told a lot about the superb level of respect in their relation 😊

Sanchi jealous of Ganga seeing bonding between Jagaya and Ganga ,In front of Jagaya nice to Ganga to impress him behind back throwing venom on Ganga through expressions This showed how this love triangle is gonna be .

Singhs have really lost their brains . Which family can be this idiot who is asking ex wife to participate actively in marriage alliance proceedings of her ex husband? To meet with prospective bride's familyWon't the family ask who is she ?then what will Singhs answer? ,Anandi herself happily participating in it not for once thinking she is not right person to be here This is definitely planning to make the alliance run away not fixing the marriage 😳.Cvs definitely have no explanation for this This is nonsense There is absolutely no need to force Anandi into this Her approving Jagaya's bride was itself ridiculous On top of it she is actively present in the proceedings. Nonsense. I am amazed at Cvs they know they have to force Anandi into this but forgot about Sugna? Does she even know there are talks going about her brother's marriage ? 😳

Singhs i wonder when they will learn their lesson? When they will learn they have to see that they don't create uncomfortable and embarrassing situations for their own son When they will learn to understand the mindset of their children and take their steps accordingly? Felt sorry seeing Jagaya .One he is not ready for marriage and is being forced No one is bothering to understand him despite him expressing his feelings to them many times and to top Anandi's presence at this time is only making things more difficult for him. Shashank did fabulous job in expressing the discomfort , awkwardness of Jagaya in all this .How much tough is all this for Jagaya Felt really sorry for Jagaya How much he is suffering but no one can see that Its sad that the family cannot be little sensitive towards him?.Where is their maturity and years of experience ?.

Urmi Devi went overboard with her admiration of the haveli

Sanchi was possessive of her love teddy as well that she wanted to gift to Jagaya but had to gift to Mannu She went to meet Mannu only to see her teddy that child hasn't ruined it and she was not giving it to him later when he wanted She is jealous of Mannu too 😆How many people she is jealous for Jagaya .Ganga , Anandi , Mannu 😆Sanchi getting a 440 volt shock on hearing about Dr Jagdish's marroage going to be fixed .For a moment she thought her love is slipping out of her hands therefore her love teddy too slipped from her hands .She raised doubts of both Anandi and Ganga

Urmi devi and Anandi recognizing each other Glad cvs haven't shown any blooper and didn't used morphing or tried to produce Urmi devi and Anandi's interaction part 2 like bidaai part 2 They continued from where they left , re shot the scene for flashback thats great

Now lets see where this drama leads too .

Edited by mahi12 - 12 years ago

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mahi12

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Giving my views on JaAn marriage failure I blame Singhs the most for it . Jagaya and Anandi were too young , inexperienced and immature.Their marriage happened at very young age and they were too young to understand what is needed to keep the marriage going. They didn't even know the meaning of marriage properly Definitely at their age at that time it cannot be expected from them to be ideal husband and wife and carry the level of understanding that two mature people have in how to handle the marriage and complete its responsibilities like two mature people can do .If Jagaya's attraction at that time was towards glitters then it depends on his age It is natural for any person in his age to feel that way .When a person is growing is up , exploring new things then its natural these glitters attracts him If he couldn't handle situations in front of his family relating what he wants Anandi to do then again i will say due his young age and immaturity when he brought his points in front of Dadisaa he happened to get angry when Dadisaa said no which made Dadisaa feel he is revolting in front of her because of Anandi and Anandi end up lecturing him and had to give into Dadisaa's side for sake of peace in family though Jagaya was right Dadisaa was wrong which made Jagaya helpless he can ever change Anandi because he didn't got support from his wife either leave family members and also he became hopeless in her she will ever change

Coming to Anandi she was also young and immature who couldn't understand things .How she was conditioned by Sumitra and her own mother to be yes to her in laws in everything she kept doing it and couldn't balance things between her husband and in laws even time She couldn't understand many things like when Jagaya use to call her Gawar she couldn't understand she needs to match herself up to his level its not a joke but something serious She end up opening a school but couldn't think of resuming her studies She had the guts in her to break barriers set by Dadisaa later she did and tried to change herself to match herself to Jagaya's desires when she saw she is losing him but till then it was too late Had she has the understanding in her before she would have done it long ago but it took much time for her to understand but till then things slipped out of her hands .Anandi loved Jagaya immensely no doubt in that she loved him equal to great lovers in the world , she did a lot for him but the main thing is she did fall weak in handling the situations in her married life especially relating to her husband because she lacked understanding and maturity in her and it contributed in the marriage failure

JaAn 's relationship failure on their part was mostly because of marriage at wrong age They were too young , immature , inexperienced whose age was to study , explore their youthful life , , make their careers , stable themselves in their lives , learn their responsibilities, gain that maturity, sense and understanding what is marriage and how to keep the marriage going then marry but unfortunately they were married early , they didn't know how to handle their married life , and take responsibilities of each other in a mature way, what give and take is required to keep the marriage going therefore things messed up and marriage failed

But Singhs they were matured , having plenty of experience Definitely they have no excuse for the blunders they made especially Bhairo. Bhairo has everything with him, maturity education , sanity , understanding , power , position foresight .He whenever has been forceful in front of Dadisaa in showing her the light what is right for both Jagaya and Anandi Dadisaa has to bow down and understand but when he showed weakness things became a mess Singhs have an excuse for the child marriage they did , it was custom of their place but what about their rest blunders

1 The gap they created between Jagaya and Anandi in their education .What they were thinking it will work? What happened to understanding of Bhairo here ?Why couldn't Bhairo see Anandi wanted to study he knew everything The books he brought for her later if he would have done it before Anandi kept studying JaAn would be at balance and things wouldn't have messed up Jagaya would have no reason to be ashamed of his less educated wife He wouldn't have found attraction for Gauri He found attraction for Gauri because he visioned in her how he wanted his Anandi to be but was not getting from her all because of Singhs

2. Singhs always use to keep Anandi serving chai, pakodas and samosas to them Anandi doing malish of Dadisaa and JaAn use to yearn to spend some time with each other and use to meet each other playing hide and seek with family Now this should be common sense to even Dadisaa if she had got them married then husband and wife need to spend quality of time with each other as well but no she didn't allow them then how distance won't come .Many a times situation was like this Jagaya waiting for Anandi and Anandi doing malish of DS and then so tired end up sleeping and next day crying no what happened from me Jagaya was waiting for me Now these are blunders of Singhs who never gave proper time to husband and wife to spend with each other What happened to Singhs maturity and their own understanding , years of experience here ?Did they brought a life partner for their son or servant for them ?😳

3.The so much distance they created between JaAn They send Jagaya to Mumbai to become doctor but kept Anandi to serve them Dadisaa had the fear Jagaya will change going in city therefore she wasn't allowing him to go there but none among Singhs even this thought cross their minds they should send Anandi with him as well Even thinking about their fear he will stray they could send Anandi with him Had she been there , there would be someone to keep a check on him and hold him he would never have strayed Singhs saw Anandi in pain day and night bearing separation from her husband seeing her pain they could send her with him but no .Singhs couldn't understand the needs of a couple who have just returned from a honeymoon definitely they must have consummated there as well so understanding their needs they could send Anandi with Jagaya which should be common sense to them but no Pretty strange are Singhs to me they all were married For themselves the husbands cannot live without their wives , wives cannot live without their husbands , to fulfill their needs they are with each other but for their own married son and daughter in law they were creating distance relationship ?😳what about their needs ? Why Singhs couldn't understand that ?They forced so much distance in between their married son and daughter in law and then they were expecting their marriage to succeed ?How it can succeed like this?

4. When Bhairo and Sumitra came to know about Jagaya has strayed instead of bringing him on right path they tried to lecture him for once when he didnt agree they preferred to declare him dead and burn his chitah instead of doing anything to bring him on right path and save the marriage . He didn't marry Gauri at that time They could save JaAn 's marriage Bhairo could have found out about that girl on whom Jagaya developed an infatuation , talked with Bade papa i think even Gauri could be stopped at that time because it wasn't too late ,Bhairo and Sumi instead of trying to bring their lost son on right path He is immature who has lost his path you both are mature at least you understand , he is your son bring him on right path its your job on every ground but no they chose to break all bonds with him declaring him dead instead of saving the marriage even when it was not yet too late thus increasing the revolt in him and he end up doing from which he could be stopped earlier hence failure of JaAn' s marriage and suffering for both Jagaya and Anandi

Singhs their blunders contributed a lot in failure of JaAn's marriage Had they shown sense using their maturity things would never have been messed up , JaAn's marriage would never have failed .i know if Singhs would have been sensible then how cvs would have created drama😆but if we take the characters as real life people and analyze their acts then Singhs are definitely to be blamed the most When Bhairo said to Jagaya when he was blaming himself he is responsible for his failed marriage with Anandi Bhairo rightly said you were alone not responsible a lot many other circumstances contributed too i was yes to Bhairo you are 100 % right and the biggest responsible you because you had the power , understanding , maturity , sense, foresight everything to make things better for your young son and daughter in law but you were mostly yes maasaa or with shoes after Jagaya even for his slightest mistake not for once having right conversation with him about his life or anything what he wants , making him understand the right , help him understand his responsibilities As a father it was your job to do so Bhairo but you gave full control of your son to Dadisaa knowing very well she is ruining him neither you could do much for Anandi to save her from Dadisaa earlier

JaAn both were both were too young , inexperienced and immature.At their age people dream about one day they will get married They definitely at their age cannot produce maturity and understanding to handle marriage How to take up all responsibilities. Secondly they acted as how they were taught by Singhs Anandi was made to bow down in front of in laws for everything while Jagaya Dadisaa made him to believe he is superior and can do anything so definitely the blame goes to Singhs who were mature , experienced and having much more sense but they failed to handle things thus becoming major factor of JaAn's failure of marriage and all the sufferings they all faced ..

Now the tables have been turned to new direction After this tragedy of their lives everyone faced a lot much suffering , pain , lost a lot and learned their lessons now its time to apply them .Jagaya he has gained the maturity in him but is yet to be seen how he will handle his married life because now he has gained his maturity and understanding in him how to handle things in a better way which wasn't present in that young boy before

Anandi she should have learnt her lessons but unfortunately it is not yet seen where she is applying them 😳she is still the same dutiful bahu and somehow even unintentionally the husband is pushed back behind family in her priority list though she is in totally different circumstances now but her change is yet not seen much😳she hasn't even learnt that when she herself is forced for marriage she should not force others to marry for family's sake when they are themselves not ready for marriage it causes a lot much suffering to you and your partner but no she ended up forcing Jagaya to agree for marriage for family's sake😳Cvs i don't know what they are showing They should be showing the difference between kachi umer k pake rishte and paki umer k pake rishte How two youngsters Jagaya and Anandi who were married at wrong age too young due to their immaturity they couldn't handle their marriage relation now them at right age , mature and sensible enough show them in contrast to previous selves Marriage at wrong age and at right age Jagaya is not married yet so we exclude him but Anandi???? Shiv and Anandi two mature individuals should be shown balancing their need to have time for themselves and time spent on caring for the family as a contrast to two youngsters Jagaya and Anandi. but CVs are only showing for them the ideal bahu and the ideal husband who is happy and satisfied with an ideal bahu as his wife.😳

Singhs they haven't learnt any lesson properly 🥱They still cannot understand the needs of their own children .They still prefer their desires and force their children to follow them thus causing a lot pain to poor children They still haven't learnt they have to think from their children's mindset and take their steps accordingly They still force their wrong decisions on their children They haven't yet learnt marriage is not solution of all problems they have to make marriage solution of all problems.They forced Anandi to marry Shiv and for Jagaya they have created even worst situation than Anandi not for once understanding how much pain and suffering they are giving to him .Bhairo is still same knowing right and wrong still not taking proper steps to set things right and has given once again the charge to Dadisaa to destroy life of Jagaya as per her wrong philosophies Don't know when Singhs will become sensible Even after facing so much and how much their children suffered they still haven't improved much Don't know when they will and feel sorry for poor Jagaya don't know how much he has to suffer at hands to his family now Sigh

sorry for my thesis but couldn't posting my views in the interesting debate going on here 😛

Edited by mahi12 - 12 years ago