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Posted: 13 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: elasingh

Gauri is today's woman -beautifull ,agressive and intelligent.



I don't want to comment on any other part of the topic, but I, as a woman of today, I take extreme objection to this statement. Please do NOT generalize and call all women of today like Gauri. Modern, educated and independent women are definitely not like Gauri...some may be, but not a majority.

Today's girls are intelligent, aggressive..yes! But not so clinging, scheming, hysterical, insecure and dependent. Gaga fans may feel Anandi is clinging and dependent for FBing abt Jagya...but at least she limits her memories/desires to her own mind. She does not cry and beg Jagya not to leave her...she handles her rejection with a lot more maturity & dignity than Gauri can ever dream of possessing!

I have no issues with GAGA fans or their favs...but please...equating today's women & Gauri...that's an insult to women like us

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@leo4ever .
If you don't realise what i'm talking about is not WHAT the story is but WHY is it so ,then atleast try and understand what i'm saying instead of narrating what the storyline shows . because as a audience we have a right to critique a story and the way storywriters present certain characters especially when it is supposedly showing CHILD MARRIAGE in a way that ends up glorifying it. I'm not talking about HOW GAURI BEHAVED AND JAGIYA BEHAVED - my point is that WHY did were they shown to behave in this manner - why were they painted black only?
Jagiya and anandi were 8 when tied in this bond - even before they could understand what it meant to be married for god's sake! They were both brought up being told they were husband and wife and obviously initially grew up believing that and initially even consumated their marriage . But when jagiya left his family and the village context, he experienced adult love for the first time with gauri and married her.
So far so god- but after that the BVwriters proceeded to make it a typical soap opera - villianising jagiya and gauri , while everybody else who was responsible for getting anandi and jagiya married as children in the first place - have been painted white !! Even today bhairon sa while doing the right thing by anandi , still blames jagiya for going away instead of saying that the basic problem was with 'bal vivaah' itself !! And they were wrong in getting her and jagiya married in the first instance !
jagiya nad gauri could have ben shown as ordinary people too instead of villians - after all jagiya was also a victim of child marriage - he had a right to choose on his own at some point , his being together with anandi initially even as an adult was because of his childhood bond based on this tradition !
Because if we show him repenting now , and anandi pining for him - we are glorifying and romanticising child marriage - it is not a laila majnu love story nor is it a story about a typical ekta kapoor type k serial family drama - where the good wife is cheated by the looser husband and bad other woman. If they wanted to critique child marriage - they had to show its break up as natural , not a villianous act !
Even after all this, if they show jagiya repenting his bad behaviour, why should he repent breaking off a childhood bond - he can think the way he behaved was not right but why be shown to regret braeking off bal vivaah ? isn't that glorifying it?
And they showed anandi kept Teej thinking of jagiya all the time , even after her mother's death , for god's sake!
So who is the heroine at the end of the story - a woman like
anandi who's shown to be as traditional in her thinking and views as possible except for some concessions BV writers give in showing her as sarpanch etc ? while the woman who stood on her own, worked hard, became a doctor ,and is ambitous - is the woman they show as a villian !
And all the people who brought about jagiya anandi marriage , the villagers etc are now condemning jagiya for leaving anandi instead of blaming or realising ther was a problem with getting them married as children in the first place!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I completely agree with you,they have completely destroyed jagya and gauri character while anandi and family,speacialy people who started bal vivah are shown aww villagers sad no,illiterate ,in name of bal vivah wahi ghisi piti storyline.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#14
some fans of Anandi r even more unrealistic than Anandi herself. If G is not today's woman to kya pracheen kal ki aurat hai?
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Posted: 13 years ago
#15
@Manasi_16
That is exactly my problem . WHY are they showing Gauri, who has otherwise all traits of being a modern woman - professionalism, independence, ambition also shown as "clinging, scheming, hysterical, insecure and dependent" ?? Why could thy not show jagiya and gauri as ordinary people? why couldn't gauri b someone who simply fell in love with a man who was tied to a child marriage, help him deal with the situation, get a divorce and move on instead of painting her such a black character?
@poiu123
If that was what they wanted to show , then it should have been shown in a manner that does not villianise jagiya and gauri firstly and secondly also not romanticise this relationship so much - because then it would imply childhood bonds are so strong that people can't get over them!! - isnt that the opposite of what is. criticised about child marriage - that people should marry of their own free will when they are able to understand what it means to live together with another human being as huband and wife!
Anandi could have been shown as suffering from the impact of child marriage , but there has to be a time when she has to come into her own and stop being portrayed merely as victim ! She has everything else- a family supporting her, education, wealth, beauty and a good man who loves her ! For this to be an empowering story - it has to be a journey of self discovery , where instead of just being the good bahu, good daughter, she becomes an independent woman who also stands up for herself , her desires, acknowldges her attraction and love for another man as an adult !
Yes , it would take her a while to leave behind things - but its already been seven years, a man who was with her for six months only has also moved on - been married for 5 years to another woman , had a child etc !
Ideally they should have shown jagiya and gauri becoming friends as they grew up , realise that there was a problem with the way they were tied to each other as children and stood up to others , helped each other through their struggles on becoming mature become independent and choose their respective lives ! only then bal vivaah would be critiqued
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I have been a silent reader of this forum since last few days, and completely agree with rohini and ela's view points. how much ever i wnt to see anandi and shivraj to unite, i feel cv's are just playing with peoples emotions for the sake of drama and trp's by showing a very regressive anandi...!
  • she is not able to get over jagdish even after 5 years of him being distrustful to her...can she change her mind with few words from bhairon...? that too a day before sagai...
  • and what did bhairon say exactly ... Jagdish is now happy with Gowri and he has forgotten all of us... so suggest you also forget him now...That means, tomorrow if he comes back after repenting ( which is indeed happenning ), she would have forgotten all about him in just a day...will she not be tempted to take him back as we get to see and u/stand that she can love no other but Jagdish...
  • what is the role of Shivraj in all this...? they have created an exemplary and almost perfect man in him , gave him an additional qualification of him being madly in love with her...and ready to do anything for her happiness...but where is this all leading to i wonder...with the way cv's are handling the storyline, they are only hinting that Shivraj with all earnest is going to step back and sacrifice his love for Anandi's happiness ! Alas... he is going to be a matyr and just a lucky charm for anandi...shivraj jo aaya, anandi ko jagdish wapas milgaya...! and the singh family will happily live ever after...!
  • if indeed above happens...wouldn't Shivraj be the one who will be getting a raw deal...i feel so defeated and it is indeed heart wrenching to imagine this scenario...as of now, the script writers in my pov, have not suceeded in abhoring child marriage but looking at the psyche they have given to Anandi, and all the situations they are creating around her, it seems they are just advocating that her first love is what she is going to stick to...even if it is vide a child marriage...

but they have surely suceeded in one thing... giving me insomnia over Shivraj's - going to be unrequitted love...! guys, i very much fear...this is going to end this way...😭

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Bv ko dekhane ke baad to sab yahi kahege ki child marriage is the best marriage. Isme cheating ke baad aur talaq ke baad bhi pyaar raheta hai.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

some fans of Anandi r even more unrealistic than Anandi herself. If G is not today's woman to kya pracheen kal ki aurat hai?

No Gauri is today's women only. There are all kinds of women nowadays - good/bad, sensible/crazy 😊 .All are examples of today's women.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh dear lord, where to even start.
The very fact that Anandi is having these flashbacks is indicative of the evils of bal vivah. She must be, what, 25? And she's already so jaded about the idea of married life, thinking that it's not possible for her and all. Had she been an ordinary girl, she'd've gone through school and university, entered a career of her choice, and NOW her family would have been giving thought to her marriage. Dadisa herself said as much a while back, though I can't remember the exact dialogue. Something like, "At the age where in the city, girls' marriage talks are only just beginning, she's having to go through a divorce." She's suffering a level of misery she should never have had to suffer. Isn't that indication enough that the CVs are NOT condoning bal vivah?
As others have said, Dadisa and Bhairon have felt HUGE amounts of guilt for their mistakes. They are now trying to make things better through settling Anandi in a loving marriage to a nice, progressive guy with a great family. That's a pretty damn progressive move.
GaGa are portrayed negatively (and not even out-and-out negatively) because they've wronged people. However, they're not shown as beyond redemption, and I believe they will both be redeemed before the serial ends. They too are both victims of child marriage in their own ways. But their adult choices were wrong. They will realise their mistakes and be forgiven.
I think anyone who thinks BV is condoning BV is missing the point in a huge way. 😕 Just because Anandi remembers Jagya regularly doesn't mean that their child marriage is being condoned. It occurred, and they're both living with the consequences. And that's what the show is trying to portray.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@sujal,
if indeed script writers would like to potray Anandi's psyche , what you perceive as, and if she is willing to move on, i would be the most happiest... i personally feel there can be no better life partner other than Shivraj for her...😛
lets see how the cv's will handle this cliffhanger...😊

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