BV Glorifying child marriage

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Isn't it bizzare that in a serial meant to critique child marriage- the only two people who were shown negative are the one's who broke that bond initially - jagiya and gauri? And now even jagiya is being shown to repent while the ultra traditional anandi and the entire family responsible for child marriage is shown in a positive light? the serial writers chose to paint only one woman black - and that is gauri- the only one who is independent, a doctor , had the guts to break marry someone who had been married off as a child? instead of jagiya being also shown as a victim of child marriage ( though anandi as a woman is more so), he is shown as a black character too? . So in the end instead of showing problems with child marriage, everyone who brought about the child marriage is shown as good while the people who initially broke the bond - jagiya and gauri are drawn as negative characters ? whats the message this sends? It becomes a ekta kapoor type serial where there is the looser husband, the villianous other woman and the traditional pure jewelled and bedecked wife - a ghissa pitta purana theme . Then why call the serial balika vadhu and claim it criticises the institution and practice of child marriage??


i am also disappointed in the way anandi is shown so dont know what to say.writers are trying to portray her as the good indian wife jo ek baar kisi ko pati maan liya so usko bhulaana very hard hai.ye very regressive hai aur abhi tak jo anandi ki progress dikhaayi thi uska opposite hai.anandi has become an unreal character now jo ek taraf baal vivaah rukwaane ke liye apni life ko stake par lagaati hai aur dusri taraf apney age-old traditions me wrapped ho kar ek abusive & philandering husband ke liye teej rakhti hai.this is a sickness!kaafi repulsive hai ye jo dikha rahe hain abhi show me. anandi ka aise jagya ke baare me sochna is also weird cos' we have seen her attraction and admiration for shiv. her being a good person her not responding to shiv's helping her by showing him warmth is also inconsistent. her emotions when she reads his letter after seeing the photo frame gift isincosistent with her cold shoulder treatment to him and his family.her thinking about jagya fondly after her enraged throwing of ashes in his face is inconsistent. That a daughter who can marry someone to fulfill her mother's last wish is now thinking with love about the man who drove that same mother to sickness and then came to do weird magic stuff at her funeral to satisfy his illicit partner -loving feelings for such a man are inconsistent and weird. so if writers are trying to show anandi as an adarsh bhartiya patni who will love the man she first got married to irrespective of a life goal, ideology, viewpoints, character...make jag better and get a new woman in his life like shiv came in anandi's. make anandi focus more on her own thinking and beliefs and stand up for in her own context not just other village girls-above all, decide which type of show you want to be ek saath do boats par pair rakhoge BV writers to very soon show ki viewership and naiyya dono doob jaayengi.


This is worse than ekta kapoor serials- YOU CANNOT PROJECT YOURSELF AS CRITICAL OF CHILD MARRIAGE AND THEN BECOME AN ORDINARY SOAP WITH A GHISSA PITTA STORY .

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Not another JaAn reunion thread 😕
I am tired of them...Anandi didnt keep teej for jagya...teej can be kept by unmarried women also...she kept teej just for the sake of continuity.
Relax guys anandi and jagay are not reuniting stop making same threads again n again.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I also feel that bv has started promoting child marriages.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sarandha

Isn't it bizzare that in a serial meant to critique child marriage- the only two people who were shown negative are the one's who broke that bond initially - jagiya and gauri?

really you got that? it was wrong not coz they fell in love, how they wnet about it that was wrong- cheating keeping two womne, livinng with a person even though know not married, thopofying on the others as yes am the leagl bahu in ur face u guys left me but ur son piked me me!! was wrong!! anandi blamed bv first then jaggu gauri- that too later, ds bahiron sumitra anandis parents all blamed slef coz of her misfortune they made ammends by getting her divorced getting remarried!!
And now even jagiya is being shown to repent while the ultra traditional anandi and the entire family responsible for child marriage is shown in a positive light?
isnt anandi modern? she is the female leader of a village, thinks ahead of her time is pro female education, remarriage of widows medical progress, made village a district,knows abt irrigation system, oh are u basing on her dressing up? isnt g thnking more backward then anandi??she is the one who many times feels insecure and is more she lables ppl on their dressing ,i have not found her at all as a forward thinknig girl, inside her thnking isi like her mom!! and did you miss the whole bahog sohuting on ds? or the whole ds bhairon blaing themsleves accepting thier mistake? they accepted and thne getting annaid divorced, supporting her progress getting her remarried is how they are trying to make ammends!!
how is jaggu postive? by leaving g and slaping her? sorry he has still committed wrong,
the serial writers chose to paint only one woman black - and that is gauri- the only one who is independent, a doctor , had the guts to break marry someone who had been married off as a child?
so u see no wrong, in g action? yes she fell in love got marreid , then in her ashiward mission it was not ever about how it is not our intetion, it was her truimph- yes yes see u left me for ur fisrt bahu but ur son pikced me !! haha in ur face, then all the since am legal give me the place, i dnt care i am leagla phlee viah was nothing, then on finding out the truth she was ok??she was ok continuing living with a marreid man, and she knew she wasnnt marreid- that is why the need to get jaggu divorced, to get her shadi done?? iwould have respected her as a strong independt intelligent sef respecting owman has she made hm divorce anandi on finding out she is not legal wife, stayed away, taught him a lesson rather she went laong teaching the singhs a lesson??
instead of jagiya being also shown as a victim of child marriage ( though anandi as a woman is more so), he is shown as a black character too? .
hello man u really seem to have skipped the epis? there is not anti jaggu coz he fell in love, how he took actionshe insulted his family name, sold his family heirloom, ashamed of family name, disprespecte hism om dad, more so the girl who gave him life who made his confidence in getting back to medical college, he cheated on her, ( in case u forgot jaggu anandi marraige became leagl the day he consumated it with her) ridiculed her, broke her from inside, u see nthng worng in it??even with g , he was vindicataitve jealous and more that i ma the man so better than u
So in the end instead of showing problems with child marriage, everyone who brought about the child marriage is shown as good while the people who initially broke the bond - jagiya and gauri are drawn as negative characters ?
the message was very clear and heard by all- kachi umar k rishte kabhi pakkay nhn hotay!!
whats the message this sends? It becomes a ekta kapoor type serial where there is the looser husband, the villianous other woman and the traditional pure jewelled and bedecked wife - a ghissa pitta purana theme . Then why call the serial balika vadhu and claim it criticises the institution and practice of child marriage??

how is showing that a bv is geting remaiired by her susral regressive????? the resn jag gauri collasped was nto coz they stood up against the evil of child marriage it was that in thier maiirage ther was no trust- no honstym and u cant build ur home on other tears- both did that!!


i am also disappointed in the way anandi is shown so dont know what to say.writers are trying to portray her as the good indian wife jo ek baar kisi ko pati maan liya so usko bhulaana very hard hai.ye very regressive hai aur abhi tak jo anandi ki progress dikhaayi thi uska opposite hai.anandi has become an unreal character now jo ek taraf baal vivaah rukwaane ke liye apni life ko stake par lagaati hai aur dusri taraf apney age-old traditions me wrapped ho kar ek abusive & philandering husband ke liye teej rakhti hai.she kept teej coz ik dafa jo rakhte hain woh rakhna ha she idid it without feelnig and since she dnt even take out ihs pic to look at it it is iok, even unmareid girls do so, this is a sickness!kaafi repulsive hai ye jo dikha rahe hain abhi show me.

anandi ka aise jagya ke baare me sochna is also weird cos' we have seen her attraction and admiration for shiv. her being a good person her not responding to shiv's helping her by showing him warmth is also inconsistent. her emotions when she reads his letter after seeing the photo frame gift isincosistent with her cold shoulder treatment to him and his family.her thinking about jagya fondly
when did she thnk of him fondly???she just got divorced, then her mom passed away, she could have wanted ot live alone for a while now is forced into marriage and that too with a person who is more quyalifed than her, who she is still nto sure if is dong as a favor or really love her but then how can anyone really love her, is she really that special?how will it be leaving this family her home, is there guarntee that what happened once will not happen, will she be happy? these are her thoughts ,her memeories aren to pleasent they are that i have walked down this orad beofre i thought it was for eternity it wasnt , am waling down the road agian , what will it be this time??
n are inconsistent and weird. so if writers are trying to show anandi as an adarsh bhartiya patni who will love the man she first got married to irrespective of a life goal, ideology, viewpoints, character...
she has never wanted jaggu to leave g, she said it is ok u fell in love, uske saath hhi na insafi hui hai, she never wanted thme to speerate!! she never wanted him to come back and if u remember - tumhray saaath rhna is my worst nightmare!! she is sad at what has happened that all. i guess ideally she would have just wanted to live single in ds house maknig a difference in others life simply as that is safer for her as it will keep her away form hurt!!
make jag better and get a new woman in his life like shiv came in anandi's. make anandi focus more on her own thinking and beliefs and stand up for in her own context not just other village girls-above all, decide which type of show you want to be ek saath do boats par pair rakhoge BV writers to very soon show ki viewership and naiyya dono doob jaayengi.


This is worse than ekta kapoor serials- YOU CANNOT PROJECT YOURSELF AS CRITICAL OF CHILD MARRIAGE AND THEN BECOME AN ORDINARY SOAP WITH A GHISSA PITTA STORY .

i really felt u watch only few scenes rather whole epis from ur point
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ela If you read the post you will realise that the thread maker is not at all talking abt JaAN reunion. She is simply pointing out the inconsistencies in the script and I agree totally with her. In fact this is first time someone has critically analysed the script and characters without going only by preconceived notions. I have noticed on the forum that people either love Anandi or hate her. There is no attempt at objective analysis or even to critique her inconsistent behavior. The minute you do that there is a chorus against "A-haters". Come on everyone, BV script writers are indeed justifying bal vivah by showing A constantly in flashback mode. Regardless of what they do later, at this point they are showing A as unable and unwilling to come out of her past.
This is very clear from her tears when Bhairon asks her forget Jagya. The fact that she says she will try to forget him is proof that she has not forgotten him. How is this consistent with her beautiful parting lecture to Jagya at the time of their divorce? She said at that time that J's thought don't even Chubofy her anymore. The way she threw bhibut on him suggested she had finally reached closure on J. But no, she was back to FBing on the man whom she accused of killing her mother. This is an inconsistency the scriptwriters are deliverately overlooking in order build a huge drama and get TRPs. If they show her wavering between J and Shiv, it will be a further blow to the nti bal vivah theme.
The TM's point about painting Gauri black is also valid. Gauri is a successful career woman, why destroy her character like this? Especially when J himself has lied thru his teeth to her? Shd she not have thrown his lies at him?
And finally J is showing repenting his earlier words about bal vivah. He told his family and A that bal vivah was at the bottom of the failure of his marriage to A. Now he is ?shown wanting to take back those words. What does this mean? He was at fault and not bal vivah. Am also confused by Bhairon's words that J is now with Gauri so A shd forget him. What happens when J dumps Gauri? Is it okay to take him back then?.
The emphasis on the evils of Bal Vivah is simply not there in the script. CVs have to redeem themselvesin a better way if the message has to go through..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Her flashbacks are not abt the family. They are about Jagya. During teej she kept remembering her old teej with him. She remembered him when they were buying the ring. She is remembering him all the time -- without a break. And fiannly she admitted it to Bhairon when she tearfully told him she will try her utmost to forget him. What exactly does that mean? Just memories over which she has no control or a willing reluctance to let go of J. The confusion has not been cleared by script writers at all, may be create dramatic tension but it is irritating to viewrs who want to see logic.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i quite agree with you.anandi not once remembering her mother nowadays.only having flashbacks of jagdish.anandi could only spend maximum 6 happy months with jagya in her adult life.she suffered 5 year of abuse and now remain separated for atleast three years. recent sad memories of 8 years should haunt more than the old short happy memories.this is becoming unrealistic and regressive.she is becoming totally insensitive towards shiv and his family's feelings.cv dont change her character and show its rightness and firmness.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: rohini55

@ela If you read the post you will realise that the thread maker is not at all talking abt JaAN reunion. She is simply pointing out the inconsistencies in the script and I agree totally with her. In fact this is first time someone has critically analysed the script and characters without going only by preconceived notions. I have noticed on the forum that people either love Anandi or hate her. There is no attempt at objective analysis or even to critique her inconsistent behavior. The minute you do that there is a chorus against "A-haters". Come on everyone, BV script writers are indeed justifying bal vivah by showing A constantly in flashback mode. Regardless of what they do later, at this point they are showing A as unable and unwilling to come out of her past.

This is very clear from her tears when Bhairon asks her forget Jagya. The fact that she says she will try to forget him is proof that she has not forgotten him. How is this consistent with her beautiful parting lecture to Jagya at the time of their divorce? She said at that time that J's thought don't even Chubofy her anymore. The way she threw bhibut on him suggested she had finally reached closure on J. But no, she was back to FBing on the man whom she accused of killing her mother. This is an inconsistency the scriptwriters are deliverately overlooking in order build a huge drama and get TRPs. If they show her wavering between J and Shiv, it will be a further blow to the nti bal vivah theme.
The TM's point about painting Gauri black is also valid. Gauri is a successful career woman, why destroy her character like this? Especially when J himself has lied thru his teeth to her? Shd she not have thrown his lies at him?
And finally J is showing repenting his earlier words about bal vivah. He told his family and A that bal vivah was at the bottom of the failure of his marriage to A. Now he is ?shown wanting to take back those words. What does this mean? He was at fault and not bal vivah. Am also confused by Bhairon's words that J is now with Gauri so A shd forget him. What happens when J dumps Gauri? Is it okay to take him back then?.
The emphasis on the evils of Bal Vivah is simply not there in the script. CVs have to redeem themselvesin a better way if the message has to go through..

First of all I m not accusing tm of promoting JAAN reunion. Secondly I have never really admired Anandi's character. Strangly she has never touched my heart. I totally agree that writers have destroyed Jagiya and Gauri's character. I have said this in many of my previous posts that gaga should be shown happily married . Gauri is today's woman -beautifull ,agressive and intelligent. Jagia was right when he said he was in this mess becoz of his family.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: rohini55

@ela If you read the post you will realise that the thread maker is not at all talking abt JaAN reunion. She is simply pointing out the inconsistencies in the script and I agree totally with her. In fact this is first time someone has critically analysed the script and characters without going only by preconceived notions. I have noticed on the forum that people either love Anandi or hate her. There is no attempt at objective analysis or even to critique her inconsistent behavior. The minute you do that there is a chorus against "A-haters". Come on everyone, BV script writers are indeed justifying bal vivah by showing A constantly in flashback mode. Regardless of what they do later, at this point they are showing A as unable and unwilling to come out of her past.

This is very clear from her tears when Bhairon asks her forget Jagya. The fact that she says she will try to forget him is proof that she has not forgotten him. How is this consistent with her beautiful parting lecture to Jagya at the time of their divorce? She said at that time that J's thought don't even Chubofy her anymore. The way she threw bhibut on him suggested she had finally reached closure on J. But no, she was back to FBing on the man whom she accused of killing her mother. This is an inconsistency the scriptwriters are deliverately overlooking in order build a huge drama and get TRPs. If they show her wavering between J and Shiv, it will be a further blow to the nti bal vivah theme.
The TM's point about painting Gauri black is also valid. Gauri is a successful career woman, why destroy her character like this? Especially when J himself has lied thru his teeth to her? Shd she not have thrown his lies at him?
And finally J is showing repenting his earlier words about bal vivah. He told his family and A that bal vivah was at the bottom of the failure of his marriage to A. Now he is ?shown wanting to take back those words. What does this mean? He was at fault and not bal vivah. Am also confused by Bhairon's words that J is now with Gauri so A shd forget him. What happens when J dumps Gauri? Is it okay to take him back then?.
The emphasis on the evils of Bal Vivah is simply not there in the script. CVs have to redeem themselvesin a better way if the message has to go through..

I think this is precisely how CVs are OPPOSING Bal Vivah. It is showing the marriage which happened at the age of 8 , where children are innocent and very impressionable is having such everlasting effect that even though this husband has cheated her , it has left this deep impact that she is unable to forget him.
This is the difference between breaking up of a 17 yr old child marriage and 17 yr old ADULT marriage. If a 17 yr old adult marriage had broken , the girl WUD NOT have had these constant FBs , such low self esteem and so many difficulties in moving on. MyPOV.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I also find Anandi's fb of Jagia very regressive. Jagia as lived longer with Gauri as an adult then with anandi. Still she can't seem to forget him.Moreover what really surprises me is that ppl justify her FB's . Can't relate to her at all. She looks sad all the time and ppl justify her by saying she just got her divorce and lost her mother. But Jagia left her 7 years back and divorce was just a formality and she never thinks of her dead mother. No justification for her sad looks.

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