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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: liv2laugh

I think Shiv has put himself on the back burner because he is more concerned about Anandi's state of mind because he knows she is suffering much more than he is. He will not make any more moves that might upset her, especially after he learned about her state of mind from her family today.

Shiv is Anandi's well wisher first and foremost and he likes her a lot and respects her. So he signals his willingness to wait for her to change her mind. So his decision to marry Anandi is made and he is not changing his mind. He will wait for her come around because in some corner of his mind her believes she will once she has had enough time to heal.

The scene I loved today was his touching daadisa's feet. This broke the ice. This clearly showed that he does not hold Daadisa responsible for what happened. Even thought Anandi insulted him, he did not take offense. His understanding nature is perhaps what will ultimately swing Anandi. Anandi is an extremely complicated person and until she falls in love, Shiv will have to handle her with kid gloves. His ability to empathize with her, his understanding and his caring will be what ultimately brings Anandi around.

with the hope that his relationship with anandi turn out to be as fulfilling for his own self as for anandi.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

shridevigaddam - spot on. mate! Post-divorce, Shiv needs to give her stern dhaat. She needs to wallow, but not too too much.


As for Shiv - he's definitely down, but far from out. I loved his dialogue that it didn't really hurt even though it did hurt. ('bura laag kar bhi bura nahi lagah because he understands what she must be feeling) He's already protective of her even against her family. He was defending her as much as them and was clear that her consent was mandatory. I think if he had to, he would fight for her right to remain single forever if he believed that is what she truly wants.

and how do we decide how much wallowing is too much or too less. it depends on the person concerned and his emotional levels.
i have been thre too, well wishers tellig me to not wallow too much. at times it used to get irritation bordering on depression ... u never knwo what i have gone thru and i dotn conciously wallow in memories. they just dont leave me and it is not like i like them. if i could i would undo all of them but i cannot. so please dotn say i wallow on it too much. i have no control over my state of mind and it will heal on its own when it is time. that time is not for me to decide.
for eg guys seem to get over break ups in days. while for girls it can take years.
a friend of mine got divorsed and then both her and her ex got remarried. but she seems to linge ron to he rmemories even after remarriage while the guy has clearly moved on much faster at an emotional level.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@anjana.d - by wallowing I meaning avoiding a straight up discussion. She can take all the time in the world after, but he should make her hear him out at least once post divorce. Not that she needs to marry him or anyone. She should, however, give him an opportunity for rebuttal.

I understand why she blasted him. But, he is entitled to defend himself once she has had some time and space. Fair is fair
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i feel with all that se ha hidden away in her heart for him , there is much more than just a rebuttal he woudl get 😉.
a woman like anandi does not envisage a person as her surya badal for nothing. oh yes she would fall for him mdly, truly and deeply.or is it truly madly deeply humm.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjana.d

i feel with all that se ha hidden away in her heart for him , there is much more than just a rebuttal he woudl get 😉.

a woman like anandi does not envisage a person as her surya badal for nothing. oh yes she would fall for him mdly, truly and deeply.or is it truly madly deeply humm.


Optimist😛 For now a rebuttal opportunity will suffice... once she stops avoiding him then he can try the charm offensive cuz she is ready to admit he's her Surya Badal.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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yes i am an optimist and a die hard romantic at heart. i believe in the power of love as being the strongest and able to even accomplish impossibles. the path os love is filled with heart aches but is ultimately rewarding. love is all that we truly earn during our stay on this earth.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjana.d

i agree with the major part of ur post. but no the last part. i hope i have no tlost any hidden meanings in purely semantic interpretations but do i read ur saying jagat's accusations for her were true?
anandi stayed back out fo love for her adopted family, she dsnt consider it as any compensation. she is afraid to venture out of her safe zone ie a family she is well adjusted to. in her sheos anyy woman would be wary to find a new sasural and make all the more newer adjustments. an entir elifetime spent only in adjsutments? 17 years were nto enough or what of doing that that she needs more of it?
we know shiv is rght, dadisa knows shiv is right , bhairon knows shiv is right, but his family?
thats an X factor which is unseen till now. if anandi is wary it is of beign treated like a bahu all over again.
seriously i dont see anandi anywhere at fault.the girls put up with so much she needs a break! maybe her rant but then she is not rational hell how can she be?

Likewise I got confused by your views. Am seriously in not a mood to bestow sympathy on Anandi more than what she deserves.

A girl gets abandoned by her husband. Her parents come to pick her up. She refuses to go and stays with her in-laws.
Does it not bring upon all kind of personal and societal complications to honor relationships in their true manner.

Fine. Let me be called obtuse and not understanding. I fail to see love and bonding.
But period. I accept as things are. The girl gets to stay with in-laws and soon starts being treated as daughter.
So what, after the divorce now, should Jagadish and Anandi become brother and sister ?

I went through a divorce. So I understand the feeling around re-marriages, especially the arranged ones. So from that point what Anandi is doing is not wrong. I appreciate her handling herself on self-advancement through education and public service as career.

But if you ask me. The way she is handling her life without a marriage is not correct. The way she did not completely fall out of love for her family is unreal for me. A heart devoid of love(after it got brutally betrayed) is not capable of appreciating love. That should be Anandi's state. But the very fact that she has not stopped loving her-in-laws it means she sticks on to her non-functional marriage.This is where I am upset with this character. Does she even want to collect her life ? Does she think she has entire life-time to fix herself up ?

And is she even thinking of life beyond divorce. What was she doing this entire 6 month period. Did she even review what new dynamics will result post divorce. Oh! I forget. She never wanted to divorce. It is her Dadisa who wanted this. Moron!!!!!

My sincere apologies if I have hurt other forum members emotions. However I stand by firmly with my above opinion on Anandi.
Edited by shridevigaddam - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Despite everything,I found Shiv's reaction extremely poised,restrained and dignified. That is what was expected of him. Now,Anandi's reaction should also be mature. She shows she is still vulnerable and has no control over her emotions.
I wish she observes the fight between Jagya and Shiv and lets Shiv know who Jagya is. Jagya in his inebriated state is the best thing that could have happened to Anandi.

We have reached a stage where Anandi should show that slowly realisation is dawning on her that the separation is the best thing that could have happened to her and not grieve over a failed marriage any more. Once she is out of the shadow of this marriage ,she will look towards her future in a more positive way and her heart and mind to open to other people's reasons. Now,she has shut her mind completely,which is understandable. But, with the burden gone from her mind ,she should look at life with confidence and second romance is on cards,and why not?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shridevigaddam

Likewise I got confused by your views. Am seriously in not a mood to bestow sympathy on Anandi more than what she deserves.

A girl gets abandoned by her husband. Her parents come to pick her up. She refuses to go and stays with her in-laws.
Does it not bring upon all kind of personal and societal complications to honor relationships in their true manner.

Fine. Let me be called obtuse and not understanding. I fail to see love and bonding.
But period. I accept as things are. The girl gets to stay with in-laws and soon starts being treated as daughter.
So what, after the divorce now, should Jagadish and Anandi become brother and sister ?

I went through a divorce. So I understand the feeling around re-marriages, especially the arranged ones. So from that point what Anandi is doing is not wrong. I appreciate her handling herself on self-advancement through education and public service as career.

But if you ask me. The way she is handling her life without a marriage is not correct. The way she did not completely fall out of love for her family is unreal for me. A heart devoid of love(after it got brutally betrayed) is not capable of appreciating love. That should be Anandi's state. But the very fact that she has not stopped loving her-in-laws it means she sticks on to her non-functional marriage.This is where I am upset with this character. Does she even want to collect her life ? Does she think she has entire life-time to fix herself up ?

And is she even thinking of life beyond divorce. What was she doing this entire 6 month period. Did she even review what new dynamics will result post divorce. Oh! I forget. She never wanted to divorce. It is her Dadisa who wanted this. Moron!!!!!

My sincere apologies if I have hurt other forum members emotions. However I stand by firmly with my above opinion on Anandi.

umm no. my stance changes in the light of ur clariication of having goen thru divorse. that changes everything. that puts u in a position to understand somethings which i clearly do not.
so no judgements here.
but anandi did nto leave her family or harbour ill feelings towards her inlaws becuase they had never done anything wrong to her.they supported her beyond their own son. if u go down to the very basics ... that itself is unreal? how many inalws u find who r like that? a tiny miniscule percentage!
not just needle in a haystack but a needle in a tornado!
that itself in un real then how can we associate anandi's staying behind as unreal.
she had an established life and career fo sorts which seh did nto want to abandone. and viewed from th eperspectives of CVs they wanted to show inlaws changing for he better and promoting bahu remarriage as a +ve change in soceity hence they showed what they showed.
thx for taking time off to explain.
Edited by anjana.d - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dixie , yaar As a hard core shivaholic like you . I am impressed by the way shiv behaved yday. Calm and composed , never mixed up his duties with his love life . Didn't keep on touching anandi's fingers and go to a dream land . Made his stance clear that only after anandi's approval , he will move ahead with the marriage thing . From this context he is far mature than anandi . As bhairon said yday shiv got all the screaming from anandi without any fault of his - he was not the one who came up with the marriage proposal, all the initiation was from the Singhs . Poor guy felt bad when anandi didn't even look at him during that meeting and didn't even give a chance for him to clarify. Someday anandi will understand what shiv went through when he refuses to hear anandi has to say even when she is not at fault.

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