will Jagya realize Anandis value ever

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Posted: 13 years ago
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While we all want Shiv and Anandi to be married, JAgys resolve to reform himself seemed to be to prove a point to Gauri and nobody else. His redemption if it happens is for the wrong reason. Will he ever be made to realize Anandis value. He doesnt seem to remember anything she ever did for him. Not that I ever want him to try and get close to Anandi...when he realizes she should be out of reach for him.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thats guy is rightly Named Pig head.. any one else in his place would know Anandi's value to begin with..
I think he'll realise only when Gauri leaves him... i dont think Anandi moving on will make a difference to him...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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YEs I want him to realize phursat main after anandi is safely n happily married to shiv and is a mom of two three kids..😉


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Posted: 13 years ago
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I dont want him to..

He has grown up and found his solace in Gauri.. These two seem to be really in love..

So they should end up together.. Hope Jagya grows up soon and learns the value of life and everything..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Heera pehchanne ke liye johri ki zaroorath hoti hai...
sorry to say, Jagya is not a johri 😆. He is a drunkard... but not a jeweller.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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My sense of it is this :
while we see anandi as "helping" jagya, in reality it was clearly a case of anandi doing certain things for him which he should have been doing for himself, or covering up for him when she shouldnt have accomodated certain behaviour.
Real help is when you help the other person achieve something themselves. It then fosters in them a sense of self-efficacy, which is so important for every human being ... to know that they themselves have the "magic" within them...
In most if not all cases, though it looks like anandi is "helping" jagya, for him, it seems that her help rarely empowered him in an authentic way -- rather he began to resent it -- it is always through anandi that bapusa agrees for anything -- and its like jagya's own voice is snuffed out and not respected... and what this led to was a lot of covert resentment within jagya... he sort of became like a child, and anandi his mommy... and all the "magic" that occurred through him was never because of hm but because of anandi ... it really robbed him of his self-efficacy though he acquired the achievements.
Consequently, he doesnt really see her as the "giver" of something of value which is important if we are to value someone ... he sees her as the "taker" of his self-efficacy.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

My sense of it is this :

while we see anandi as "helping" jagya, in reality it was clearly a case of anandi doing certain things for him which he should have been doing for himself, or covering up for him when she shouldnt have accomodated certain behaviour.
Real help is when you help the other person achieve something themselves. It then fosters in them a sense of self-efficacy, which is so important for every human being ... to know that they themselves have the "magic" within them...
In most if not all cases, though it looks like anandi is "helping" jagya, for him, it seems that her help rarely empowered him in an authentic way -- rather he began to resent it -- it is always through anandi that bapusa agrees for anything -- and its like jagya's own voice is snuffed out and not respected... and what this led to was a lot of covert resentment within jagya... he sort of became like a child, and anandi his mommy... and all the "magic" that occurred through him was never because of hm but because of anandi ... it really robbed him of his self-efficacy though he acquired the achievements.
Consequently, he doesnt really see her as the "giver" of something of value which is important if we are to value someone ... he sees her as the "taker" of his self-efficacy.

Interesting! Never thought of it that way. That makes a lot of sense!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: moonriver

While we all want Shiv and Anandi to be married, JAgys resolve to reform himself seemed to be to prove a point to Gauri and nobody else. His redemption if it happens is for the wrong reason. Will he ever be made to realize Anandis value. He doesnt seem to remember anything she ever did for him. Not that I ever want him to try and get close to Anandi...when he realizes she should be out of reach for him.



I think Jag doesn't realize An's value cos Dadisa taught him so.
If you remember them as children, An always had better marks in school. Dadisa did not like that, at that time. She used to ask Jag wether he wants his wife to be over him, as wife's place is at home and not outside, and so on.
So from his childhood, he has learned to belittle her. Spoiled brat!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi sujal:
think of it this way -- as a mom, if I did my daughter's homework for her; and then bribed a sports teacher to generate a situation where she got a trophy; and if I then lied to her dad about the fact that she had failed an exam -- it might look on the surface that I am "helping" her ... and she may even come first in class, or in a sporting event, but in reality I am robbing her of taking responsibility for herself, also robbing her of the pride of achieving something through her own authentic efforts; robbing her of the opportunity to explain to her father why she failed in the exam and robbing her of opportunity for introspection, robbing her of the ability to set goals for herself and to instill the discipline of achieving them...
each person really craves a feeling of "I can do it myself" ... the thrill of getting a job interview on the basis of your own qualifications is so much more than getting a job interview through sifarish...
while in the short run she may think "wow my mom really loves me and helps me"... ultimately at some point her conscience will kick in knowing that she hasnt really earned the stuff and hasnt acquired the skills to cope with situations, which eventually is really robbing her.
I believe that one of the reasons jagya doesnt really know how to talk to his seniors or the dean to get things out of them to benefit him is because he doesnt have that knack from home ... he talks to bapusa and bapusa says no ... then in reality the best help anandi can give him is to TEACH HIM HOW TO TALK TO BAPUSA HIMSELF ... not intervene on his behalf... and maybe he fails three or four times, but eventually, something may click, and if bapusa listened to him on his own, then see how empowering it is ... and he learns some sort of negotiation skills in the process ... and we only value those who help us feel empowered.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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he only understands anandi's value when he needs her..

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