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Posted: 13 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: shridevigaddam



I agree and disagree. Am kinda confused as well..
Shiv is so tall and Anandi is so petite..
I am petite. And I have been touched in that manner in India and even here (jn US) by some (not many 😊 ), I guess it comes naturally to people who are open/logical enough to shoo assumptions away. I did not mind but yes I did register the touch and had never let it affect me.

Shiv is educated/UK-educated and may be he gets carried away in that mind set.
And why bother when Anandi easily touches Shiv's collar to remove the mango remnants, does the head-massage with such gusto 😆


When it comes to personal space, there is a huge gender differential. A woman touching a man is not as taboo or invasive as a man touching a woman anywhere let along near her waist, face, chest, etc. Men are given/have less personal space...the most classic or overt example of this is men are able to go shirtless in public but, not women. Both genders are subconsciously aware of this differential if not consciously. Most men are particularly conscious of this in public spaces and professional contexts...yes some people are freer with personal space than others, but Shiv does not seem that clueless. Setting also matters when we are dealing with city vs. gaon...U.S. v. India. etc.

The differential is the reason you noticed the few times someone invaded your personal space - its not norm! Its the reason tinoo (I think it was tinoo) noted Dr.33 Khanna's touching of Guari's shoulder in a hospital in Mumbai - as did Jughead! Cuz in most instances a woman's personal space even shoulders is sacrosanct in the professional realm. And having reviewed the video...shiv started at her shoulders then drifted down to waist range.

As for her invading his personal space - yup she has been crossing those personal space boundaries herself... that massage was a total invasion. I may tell a colleague the nuska but, unless he was a she, I would not be massaging them unless we were super old good friends!!!
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#22
i think this is very normal ... humanly touching other person, dropping ji or calling at odd hour after such an incident.. you imagine if we all did not know Shiv was the new lead, wouldn we have taken it so normal... i think its normal :-)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ


When it comes to personal space, there is a huge gender differential. A woman touching a man is not as taboo or invasive as a man touching a woman anywhere let along near her waist, face, chest, etc. Men are given/have less personal space...the most classic or overt example of this is men are able to go shirtless in public but, not women. Both genders are subconsciously aware of this differential if not consciously. Most men are particularly conscious of this in public spaces and professional contexts...yes some people are freer with personal space than others, but Shiv does not seem that clueless. Setting also matters when we are dealing with city vs. gaon...U.S. v. India. etc.

The differential is the reason you noticed the few times someone invaded your personal space - its not norm! Its the reason tinoo (I think it was tinoo) noted Dr.33 Khanna's touching of Guari's shoulder in a hospital in Mumbai - as did Jughead! Cuz in most instances a woman's personal space even shoulders is sacrosanct in the professional realm. And having reviewed the video...shiv started at her shoulders then drifted down to waist range.

As for her invading his personal space - yup she has been crossing those personal space boundaries herself... that massage was a total invasion. I may tell a colleague the nuska but, unless he was a she, I would not be massaging them unless we were super old good friends!!!

muje to woh yaad aata hai ki jab jagya jeitsar aaya tha jab badi masiji ke waqt us waqt woh Aandi ke room main gaya tha us waqt jagya ka soti hui Anandi ko dekhna mere liye ajeeb tha par aaj ke liye main shiv ke liye kuchh kahe nahi shakti muje yeh achcha laga ki shiv ne Aanandi ke dard ko mahesoos kiya aur woh use wahan se le gaya.
Edited by Teeya - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Shiv is crossing boundaries with Anandi and not even noticing them:


1. He called Anandi by her name without "ji"
2. He calls her late in the night to chat and help settle his mind before sleeping.
3. He's offering to always stand by her side - he caught himself there, but we all know what he meant😆
4. He tries to guide/advice her from the media people when that reporter starts ranting
5. He places his arm on her waist and takes her away from the reporters when it gets personal though he himself is reeling somewhat from her revelation.

Edited:
- Above is not a criticism of Shiv... its signs that he's falling for Anandi but, not aware of it...these are not things that are part of a purely "professional" rishta. She's becoming his friend - someone he admires and cares for a lot.


Coming back to this post.
@1.He keeps dropping the ji and then goes back to addressing her as Anandiji.
@2,This is where he consciously crossed the boundary.
@3.I agree with what you have said
@4 He was trying to guide/ advice her probably he was more experienced at handling aggressive media personnel and he anticipated trouble.
@5. Because Anandi was too rattled and distraught and only way to protect her from the barrage of questions is by physically moving her away from there.I dont think he himself realised that he was placing his arm on her waist.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ


ROFL - dId I say he was being inappropriate? He's falling in love and their relationship is transitioning from professional to personal...and he's not even realizing it. The people in this forum, na... sometimes only think negative!



Anjana... Your subject line is wrong.. That is y people are taking this thread in wrong way... In description is right ...but not the title of the thread,...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#26
TRUE TRUE...even I felt so...specially the call...doing that in a professional relationship was a bit inappropriate and that is what signals that he has fallen for her...And I am dieing for him to realize this.Everytime they are close he says or does something which a professional shudnt😆 And then he stops himself from going 2 far ...like in the champi scene when he is constantly staring at her but pretends to look away when she comes backs and even in last night's call when he says he will be right by her side always.Srsly its high time for shiv 2 accept his feelings.😳
Edited by princessyashika - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#27

Yeah..something like that!😆

Even Anandi feels the protection when shiv is with her,she doesn't realize it and I am sure wont realize or accept it soon. And shiv bechara toh kudd chukka hai aag ke dariya main and still not realizing..🤣

Being a girl from a conservative background, I can say it anandi wont let it if she is not feeling protection no matter how much the guy is good. I am very conscious about those type of thing..once while discussing a project with one my senior ..he tapped on my back in appreciation..and I immediately step backwards..it just happen..i didn't intended to do so..he is a very well maaner and decent guy..even he tapped my frd who is a girl was with me at that time too..she was ok with it..I think he noticed my uneasiness and never did that again ..only verbal appreciation after that!

I am so happy with the track...😃

Edited by khusi_* - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#28
i loved the phone call and before that anandi saying "kash mere liye bhi koi collector saab aate aur mera bachpan laadetey"" and immediately phone rings. iam expecting that too. loving ansh more and more.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#29
OMG ,,good that u have noticed all the tits and bits ,,especially the hold his waist part and dragging her out of media people...

one more point to add to ur list is,,after the media incident taking anandi to a lonely place ,,to let her free herself and then talk to her...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#30
IT is not crossing the limits -

Rather - breaking the barriers.. layer by layer 😃

Best part is Shiv has been very consistent with his overall approach ..


Edited by kavmuks - 13 years ago

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