Mistress is very strong Word- please avoid it

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Posted: 13 years ago

#51

Originally posted by: patelcharu

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@avyarima

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Posted: 13 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: patelcharu

MS. illegal... and Mr. Jerk

SO Gauri is to be called MS illegal, while Jagya Mr. Jerk.

Okay, Ms illegal its just a fancy name, it does not actually identify her in this show. Ms. illegal what?...if you have a new member in this show she/her will ask why is Gauri called that " is she an illegal Dr or what? , but when that person sees "Mistress"...it immediately rings a bell. try again.

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Picasso9

@Picasso9

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#53

again I am repeating myself...I know the difference between Mistress and Prostitute...but Men/Women within society not looking this kind of woman nicely. doesn't matter if you are mistress or prostitute...and if you have saw the "Satyamev Jayte" from last sunday you will see...the some part of to India people buying girls from Orrisa, Bihar...many other place on name of marriage and than some settle as wife, some are used by many men and some are resold...what you call this women?...it means the one bought on name of marriage and her hubands friend or brother sharing bed with her for sexual need...do you call her mistress? if the sold them other family they are using them so what you call them...prostitute?...what do you call these women? yes I know the definiation of Mistress and Prostitue...but those are just definition...not reality...in reality the society doesn't respect any of this kind of women...this kind of women get raped, used...there are lots of women forced to be in prostitution business and some women are made this as business to fulfill their needs...but again Society not giving them any respect...same as mistress.

Society does not look nicely to those women who are dedicated to one man or more to make money.

Cortisan, prostitute, mistress all has different definition but when it comes to society...they all are impacting respact of women.

how many cases you heard the women is accepted as wife in all these situations?...barely few. Once society start looking this type of women as per these words...all men within society start looking them as their property.

for you it might just words but it has high impact to society. No one will say that man who going to those place can not return to respected society or family...but when it comes to women...her own family sometime reject to recognise her.

again why this differences...between men and women.

The examples of women you talk f above are no way in the same league as Gauri. First and foremost, the women you describe in the circumstances mentioned in Satyemev Jayate, are VICTIMS. Calling them prostitutes or mistresses would be offensive because they unwillingly and unknowingly were put into such circumstances. However, lumping the types like Gauri with the victims is an insult to these victims. In fact, not once did I hear anyone on the show call the ViCTiMS any derogatory terms.

If you want to fight a greater cause, do so on the right merits, and use the right mascot. Gauri is a very poor example for your campaign. To illustrate, it's like saying, don't call a prisoner a jailbird, because not everyone commits crimes and there are innocent people in jail too.

If I am correct you are concerned about the impact of the use of the word mistress on society right? Well let me ask you this, if there is an unscrupulous, vindictive, without morals woman living in your neighborhood and you don't want her glamorized to prevent young girls from emulating her, wouldn't you want her to be labeled with a derogatory name so that no one would want to follow in her footsteps? Why to you want to evade the truth and wrap her in a fancy bow and make her more attractive to young kids? What impact would that have on society?

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Sania

@SRKLuvr

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Posted: 13 years ago

#54

Im not sure why people are so blinded in hatred that despite repeated requests by more than one forum member they continue to use words that are considered a high insult to others. Would it KILL someone if they were not to use the word to respect other people's sentiments?

Jogia has filled Gauri's maang! He has penaoed her mangalsutra and gave her the status of his wife himself. Whilst still legally married that rishta was over years previously. And its not that they did not try to get divorce! Even now - Gauri never said she would prefer money over divorce. She knew the divorce would happen anyway. She is the one that has persuaded Jogia to go for divorce now naa?

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@hooked

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: SRKLuvr
Im not sure why people are so blinded in hatred that despite repeated requests by more than one forum member they continue to use words that are considered a high insult to others. Would it KILL someone if they were not to use the word to respect other people's sentiments?

Jogia has filled Gauri's maang! He has penaoed her mangalsutra and gave her the status of his wife himself. Whilst still legally married that rishta was over years previously. And its not that they did not try to get divorce! Even now - Gauri never said she would prefer money over divorce. She knew the divorce would happen anyway. She is the one that has persuaded Jogia to go for divorce now naa?

There is a world of difference between intentions, wishes and reality of life.

Jagya may intend G to be his wife, but reality is - she is not...

So even if he puts a ton of sindoor in her maang - G will not be recognized as a married woman. Only a mistress ! I know you hate that word, but that is the only apt word for someone who stays in with amrried man AS his wife, while he HAS a legal wife.

I know traditionally mistress n keeps were titles reserved for women who were just decorative dolls kept in seperate homes for people who had enough means and lusted after more woemn than their legal wives - but in this day n age of women's lib n equality - we have equal no. of boy toys and sugar daddies. Here, for the longest time - they both survived on Jaitser funds and she was legally his KEEP. But now that she will be KEEPING him while the gravy train form Jaitser has been derailed and J has no job - I don't mind playing fair and calling Jagya the KEPT man 😆.

Now with their equal status make you happy ? 😛

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@hooked

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#56

China used to have another word which is now considered archaic for women in exactly this position, Women who served the man in all respects but were not wives and their children were not given legal recognition either.

But I digress - the word I mean is - CONCUBINE.

Here's the definition from Merriam-Webster dictionary

CONCUBINE : a woman with whom a man cohabits without being married: as

a : one having a recognized social status in a household below that of a wife

b : mistress

Edited by hooked - 13 years ago

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earth1978

@earth1978

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Posted: 13 years ago

#57

again amazed and disguted beyond words ...

some one compared poor hapless women/girls/teenagers who r sold and exploited sexually to self sufficint and cheating gauri who was never sold/pushed into anything who had total control over her situation and choices in life compare dto these poor women who r given no choice at all! how can oen not see the difference between the two ...

they rnot even in the same league to be compared. i find it adding insult to injury to say these women do it willingly by taking their name alongside gauri.

second bharofying maang and panoing mangalsutra holds no meaning , if it did these television walas bharo maang of every other person ds that mean they get marrie dinr eal sense?

bharoing maang is valid if accompanied by ceremonies and legalities which both fo them chose to ignore.

gauri cud have pushed for proper legal advise and subsequent proper divorse before marrying jagiya in templeand before getting pregnant1

but the cheapster did not want to wait.

education makes u aware, is gauri aware?

no.

and yes since her marriage is illegal she automatically becomes a mistress.

i dotn agree all mistresses are essentially bad! some are forced to become one. i wont blame them. helen is also a mistress of salman's father and is respected and loved due to her nature. salim khan married her to support her after her financial crisis. and i guess in muslims more than one marriage is allowed ... but even helen was other woman . but she was not malicious or vengeful. she was supporting an sweet to all . she recognised salims intentions of supporting her and never tried to disgrace herself by cheap tactics.

same with hema malini. who is a graceful persona who never played a home wreckers part. they converted to islam before marrying but in hindu religion their marriage is still illegal. but i dotn hate hema becuase she to never was destructive like shreedevi who is closest to gauri in real life.

but te thing is another woman except te legally married wife is a MISTRESS. no doubts in that.

and gauri is a disgrceful and malicious persona ... and that is worswe then being n innocent mistress since she wud have my sympathy.

Edited by vasu.avantika - 13 years ago

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@hooked

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: vasu.avantika
again amazed and disguted beyond words ...

some one compared poor hapless women/girls/teenagers who r sold and exploited sexually to self sufficint and cheating gauri! how can oen not see the difference between the two ...
they rnot even in the same league to be compared.

second bharofying maang and panoing mangalsutra holds no meaning , if it did these television walas bharo maang of every other person ds that mean they get marrie dinr eal sense?
bharoing maang is valid if accompanied by ceremonies and legalities which both fo them chose to ignore.
gauri cud have pushed for proper legal advise and subsequent proper divorse before marrying jagiya in templeand before getting pregnant1
but the cheapster did not want to wait.

Relax dear - as I see it - there is more to being "married" than sindoor or mangalsutra. 😆

There is consummation also. Just bcoz u bed someone - does that automatically make them "married " ?

Just bcoz u do romance in hare hare khet in village n sing songs in flowy sarees a la bollywood - does that make u married ?

Just bcoz u tell your landlord - yes we're married and buy a cheap n fake necklace with black beads - does that make u married ?

Just bcoz u goto a temple n pay a priest to perform pooja without the presence of any "samaaj" - does that make u married ? Did they also register their marriage legally ? Do they have documents ?

They like each other and live in with each other - fair enough !

Be live-in's - but don't claim to be "married". Marriage is a serious business - not for the fickle of mind like these two 🤢.

So let them mind "Mistress" as a tag - unfortanely it is and continues to be - the most APT word to describe Gauri even today. 🤣

Edited by hooked - 13 years ago

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Picasso9

@Picasso9

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#59

Originally posted by: SRKLuvr
Im not sure why people are so blinded in hatred that despite repeated requests by more than one forum member they continue to use words that are considered a high insult to others. Would it KILL someone if they were not to use the word to respect other people's sentiments?

Jogia has filled Gauri's maang! He has penaoed her mangalsutra and gave her the status of his wife himself. Whilst still legally married that rishta was over years previously. And its not that they did not try to get divorce! Even now - Gauri never said she would prefer money over divorce. She knew the divorce would happen anyway. She is the one that has persuaded Jogia to go for divorce now naa?

Talking for myself, I am NOT 'blinded' as you so blindly put it. I can see the difference between a real victim and disgrace to society. Gauri is frankly a disgrace! A disgrace to her culture, a disgrace to her village, a disgrace to her chosen profession. The way she has conducted and continues to conduct herself does not inspire respect.

If you consider the word Mistress to be a 'high insult to your sentiments' then perhaps you should write to the creatives f the show and tell them to rewrite the character Gauri. Heck while you're at it tell them to call Dadisa elder, Anandi, companion etcetera . According to the relationships each character has to each other, Jagya is the grandson, Anandi, his wife, Dadisa the grandmother, Gauri the Rakhail, mistress, keep whatever. That's the name of the relationship. What's so difficult in understanding that? Maybe you are 'so blinded' in your love of Gauri that you can't see the truth.

Edited by parri814 - 13 years ago

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sonali_dg

@sonali_dg

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#60

Yaar ye ghoom phir ke kahi se bhi Sindhooorrr aur Mangalsutraa pe kyu aa jata hai!! 😆

I don't wear sindhoor nor mangalsutra, most of the times dont even wear my wedding ring! Does that make me less married? Will it make me an unmarried girl? Are these really the definitions of marriage? Its a state of mind and so is fidelity. There is no meaning in faking the world with these symbols of " Marriage"! Who is Gauri fooling? Forget fooling the world! She wasn't even successful in fooling herself, todays episode proved it..She knows with full consciousness that

SHE IS A MISTRESS.

And to the Topic maker.. well ok, we'll name Jagya too hence forth.. you do the honors in naming him😆 Tum bhi hush, hum bhi khush 😆