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Posted: 14 years ago
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LOL Divmath, I'm not forcing you to agree with me....it's obvious our viewpoints are worlds apart....I already agreed to that on the previous page as well.....you are free to stop the discussion anytime you want.....I toh first posted my reply to iloveidiotbox if I remember correctly😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I totally agree with Divya that each person's way of looking at a situation is different and hence thier viewpoint also differs. Although Jagya gets onto my nerves, I cannot discount the fact that he is a victim of child marriage, but that's true for Anandi and Gauri as well. In my opinion what makes Jagya so disgusting is how he has treated his whole situation for which his DS is also to be equally blamed. His arrogance stems from the fact that he always got things the way he wanted which has turned him into this selfish arrogant brat. he has progressively taken everyone around him for granted keeping himself and his needs first. The members who support JG relationship see J infatuated to Anandi and in love with Gauri. But to me he doesnt show any maturity in all these years. he still is as immature as he was 5-10 years back while he was running behind Anandi hence I cannot put myself to justify that he is actually in love with this new modern girl in his life or just feelings invoked from him fickle minded nature. From what I remember he has always been quick in getting attracted to new things and people and gets easily swayed with the flow. His lack of maturity mounted with his arrogant "i know everything" attitude is responsible for all this. Hence in my opinion he did have feelings for Anandi weather it was love or infatuation that only his mind knows. But what really irritates me is his attitude towards Anandi because of whom in the first place he got to go to bombay for studying after all the family objected. For such a complicated, immature and fickle mided soul I cannot put myself to justify weather his feelings towards Gauri is mere attraction or love. He now wanting to live in a more modern setup may just make him feel ashamed of having an old fashioned girl as Anandi as his wife when he can have a modern alternative. hence I feel he is cheating on Anandi as well as Gauri to only make his ends meet. He now relieving the truth to Anandi sadly is only to avoid facing her in bombay when she and probably the whole family will get to know of his new relationship. Nevertheless the good part of the whole thing is that at least Anandi is set free. hope Gauri also gets to know the truth soon. Due to this attitude of his I feel he doesn't deserve either of the girls.

I hope Anandi takes advantage to this situation to better her life now that she is out of all the shackles. i hope the CV dont portray a giril's life to be so indispensable without her husband. she needs to get an identity for herself. Just being a girl doesnt mean that she has to live her whole life sacrificing in the name of family and her husband and not live for herself at all. Pl show something positive and to the effect of women self empowerment CVs.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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@naureat01 - I never said you forced me to agree 😊 I was just reiterating the fact "to each his own" since we were quoting each other ! I do respect your pov....no hard feelings whatsoever

@Anitha - Absolutely agree with you about Anandi ! even I would love to see Anandi stand up for herself and regain her self respect....Its not necessary for a woman to rely on her husband/ in laws to become successful in life....she can do that on her own and I hope the CV's send out this message via Anandi.....currently she is just being portrayed as a "cry vadhu" ...I hope some day she becomes a "hi-fi vadhu" and does something for herself and hopefully we see a new man in her life ! 😊 also this would be a positive outcome of this whole Jagya-Anandi breakup ! believe me this breakup will do her more good than bad in the long run...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I must say i have not analysed the situation in so much depth like some of you have..😊....but the long and short of it is that the makers are now obliged to send the correct message.after couple of years of messages after each episode....this show primarily brings out the ill effects on child marriage.amongst other ill practices which unfortunately still prevail in some parts of our country.....atleast thats what its claiming to...so if anandi jagiya become one again..the message would be...go ahead and get your kid married at 5..or 10..or whatever age you like.....its likely to cause problems..but hey..eventually alls well that ends well!!!!..so no worries...😉..
My feelings are the creatives are having a tough time on this one..as its really 50/50...i know some people like the jagiya anandi pair...but they have got to look beyond the pairing..and accept that jagiya has cheated on her bigtime..and for her to get back to him will only degrade her further....she has got to move on!!!!..they have got to show her releasing herself from him...he has treated her like rubbish..and there is no way in hell she should go back to him..irrespective of wether gauri accepts jagiya or not...come on girl..get a life..this is what we want to see...😊..........not to forget the entertainment angle of how much drama jagiya calling off the marriage will create...indian viewership wants masala, drama and controversy.........and thats exactly what the track will create..😉
Edited by sonia77 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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A very interesting discussion. I think both point of views are valid in a certain way. The show is indeed about the evils of child marriage and it's a very pertinent question to ask what happens when the married kids grow up and fall in love with someone else? However, the way the creatives took the story has given out a completely different tenor to it. It's become the issue of a cheating husband abusing his wife where the original message about choice gets lost completely. The issues would have been clearer if the CVS had:

1. Shown a good friendship between Jagya and Anandi which never turned into anything romantic. It would have been an interesting angle to explore--JaAN would have seen each other as only friends and realized that somehow they lack the chemistry of a husband and wife. It happens to all of us--a girl and a boy can be friends without feeling anything romantic aka sexual between them. We all have friends from the opposite gender who can you feel very close to, but cannot imagine getting physical with them. That's the beauty of a good friendship, it's only a special person that you fall in love with, yet you can remain pure friends with the other gender.
I wish JaAn had realized it together and talked about it as good friends. It would have saved Anandi of a lot of heartburn and insult and Jagya would have been clear about his feelings.
The message of anti-child marriage would have also gotten through, without making Jagya a villain. Instead the CVs introduced a romantic track between JaAN and messed it up with the other woman track!

2. They could have also portrayed Anandi as more mature and stronger. It would have been great to see a more perceptive Anandi who could think critically, who herself understands the evils of child marriage, and having realized that Jagya and her relationship would not work out, takes the initiative to enlighten the family and stand on her own feet. Then the conflict would have been between Dadisa who would think Anandi have not been a good beendni, and Anandi who would win over the rest of the family and finally Dadisa who would have realised the worth of Anandi's decision at the end. That would have been such a strong and positive message--but no, the Cvs had to reduce Anandi as a weakling at the mercy of her husband and the wronged-against-pitiable-doormat!! 😡


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Posted: 14 years ago
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What a great discussion ......so many perceptions..........

I mostly agree with Divmath.........but here I would like to say that

1. Yes, Jagya has become an insufferable unbearable lying boor who is at present 'in love' with Gauri. My issue is not with him being in love because I too, feel that being forced into a situation does not always end up in an ideal state of mind or relationship. But my issue is that he is lying to the one person he 'loves' Gauri............For Jagya being with Gauri, spending his sleeping and waking hours with Gauri is being in love........truth, honesty does not seem to figure in his scheme of things. This is for me not a good start to any relationship and can in fact destroy the foundation of that relationship once found out.

2. Anandi - the CV's have made it a point to make her such an insipid character after showing her as a feisty young girl...........where has all that spirit gone????? If this shock does not propel her to make something of herself then she needs to go home to her mother and stay there.............because I sincerely hope that the CV's do not show a triangular relationship surviving happily together. Did she ask for it .......maybe not, did she deserve it.............maybe not......... but that is what has happened and I was so hoping she would deal with it in a manner which would bring hope to so many who may be in her situation today.

3. Gauri - now here is my dilemma about her character.......an intelligent intuitive girl (as shown to us) and yet she knows so little about the man she loves.........despite her bade papa's apprehensions she agrees to Jagya's arguments..........I am not saying that she too, is not tempted because of Jagya but with her past experience ..............I would have thought she would be careful.........and here too, her omitting to tell Jagya is not a good thing as the longer they are together the more difficult it will be to handle what will happen after the exposures.

So good luck to the CV's...........I hope they can unravel the tangles sensibly and sensitively but in a manner that the message is intact without veering off to other issues.
Edited by groucho - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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No girl/woman deserves what Anandi is going through!

She is weak for herself, she doesn't do much for herself and she always puts others first...but isn't this what most Indian women are like?
Forget the BV concept...yes, she stopped her studies - so she needs to be hated and her husband should dump her and hook up with the first city girl he sees! wow!
I don't hate Anandi, I hate her weakness... but despite all that she doesn't deserve the crap from J...he is scum!
And re Gauri - her background, her lofty aims in life to become a doc and so on, her bade papa's reservations about J - didnt matter an ounce - she agrees to live with a guy in the same house pretending to be married ...has it even once crossed her mind what her parents would go through if they found out...Nope! My parents are from a city and even they would balk at this! And she has not been totally upfront either re her past ...
For me J and G are totally selfish and can't think beyond themselves.
And Anandi will pine for J cause she loves him...you can't blame her for that...
Yes, she will fight for others when she perceives that there is a wrong being done.
Her weakness is that her inner strength doesn't extend to herself at this point...maybe it will change...
I do believe that she is strong in her own way, despite all this she has not run to her mum and dad crying foul (like a lot educated girls i see in my office who run to their mums house at the slightest of quarrels with the hubby!)
she is with her in-laws who love her like her own parents and is trying to make the best of a crap situation...
yes she didnt/couldnt study but at least she is trying to do something for the other girls in the village...remember the good too...not just the bad!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rgattu

No girl/woman deserves what Anandi is going through!

She is weak for herself, she doesn't do much for herself and she always puts others first...but isn't this what most Indian women are like?
Forget the BV concept...yes, she stopped her studies - so she needs to be hated and her husband should dump her and hook up with the first city girl he sees! wow!
I don't hate Anandi, I hate her weakness... but despite all that she doesn't deserve the crap from J...he is scum!
And re Gauri - her background, her lofty aims in life to become a doc and so on, her bade papa's reservations about J - didnt matter an ounce - she agrees to live with a guy in the same house pretending to be married ...has it even once crossed her mind what her parents would go through if they found out...Nope! My parents are from a city and even they would balk at this! And she has not been totally upfront either re her past ...
For me J and G are totally selfish and can't think beyond themselves.
And Anandi will pine for J cause she loves him...you can't blame her for that...
Yes, she will fight for others when she perceives that there is a wrong being done.
Her weakness is that her inner strength doesn't extend to herself at this point...maybe it will change...
I do believe that she is strong in her own way, despite all this she has not run to her mum and dad crying foul (like a lot educated girls i see in my office who run to their mums house at the slightest of quarrels with the hubby!)
she is with her in-laws who love her like her own parents and is trying to make the best of a crap situation...
yes she didnt/couldnt study but at least she is trying to do something for the other girls in the village...remember the good too...not just the bad!



I totally agree that no girl/woman deserves what Anandi is going through and therefore no girl/woman should be put in a position to have to go through all this.

It is somewhat difficult to disassociate oneself from the BV concept because that is really what has brought about this discussion.

I don't think viewers hate Anandi at all...............I think what we all hate seeing is the way a bright young girl who had spirit, the will to learn, the ease with which she accepted challenges being brought to her knees so vividly. She has her good points and is a caring person but unfortunately is in a situation which only she can solve for herself. That is what we want.

Nobody sympathizes with the way Jagya has behaved either. The channel CV's have not shown too much creativity in the way the should have shown the impact of city life on Jagya except with the Gauri track so this is what we have to comment on.

I think all that is happening with J and G is a creation of the channel and a matter of perception for us viewers.........if one can get beyond certain extreme examples then it is not entirely unreal for two people in love to forget good advice, values and well thought out actions, be selfish, think only of the present and that is what has happened with Gauri..................I do not include Jagya in this because his character has morphed into something unbelievable.

This is my point of view and to a certain extent ..........experience by virtue of age.😊
Edited by groucho - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@groucho
there were comments re hating Anandi and her deserving everything she got...that is why i wrote this...
BV concept - i meant even if it were not a child marriage...even if someone who got married at a suitable age...and did not complete post grad etc as intended...they dont deserve this is what i meant...
i agree with you that J and G is an extreme situation...but G's character protrayal at her entry and her actions now for me are opposite...i really liked her chutzpah at the beginning and till recently i believed she was a victim of Jagya's lies! i suppose she still is...
it is a big step for any girl to live in with a guy and for Gauri to accept this is huge deviation from character for me...thats all 😊 and hence my grump with her...
i do believe that the CVs have lost the plot...😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rgattu

@groucho

there were comments re hating Anandi and her deserving everything she got...that is why i wrote this...
BV concept - i meant even if it were not a child marriage...even if someone who got married at a suitable age...and did not complete post grad etc as intended...they dont deserve this is what i meant...
i agree with you that J and G is an extreme situation...but G's character protrayal at her entry and her actions now for me are opposite...i really liked her chutzpah at the beginning and till recently i believed she was a victim of Jagya's lies! i suppose she still is...
it is a big step for any girl to live in with a guy and for Gauri to accept this is huge deviation from character for me...thats all 😊 and hence my grump with her...
i do believe that the CVs have lost the plot...😉



@rgattu - I totally understand what you mean..........I suppose each member has their own views and therein lies the beauty of this Forum.

Yes, I agree with you that lack of education does not mean you deserve to be treated badly but as mentioned the character of Jagya has been completely demolished.

I think very many like or liked Gauri as the case maybe and probably expected the exposure before she took such an extreme step but I remain fairly open about her living with Jagya because in cities like Mumbai it has been a pattern where 2 persons specially those who are involved romantically reside together for economical reasons .............

I have not seen the last 2 episodes in its entirety so will not be able to comment on whether it is still a platonic relationship or whether they have gone beyond that.

As for the CV's---😡


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