Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon
yaar Nandu is narcissistic mother and vk is absent father, emotionally atleast… otherwise ram would have been better at handling these things… Nandu might be narcissistic but we do not know much about VK na? He has been dead a long time ago and from the fb we saw, his world revolved around Ram.
We really don’t know that, true!
But something is indicative of his manipulative nature as they are drawing ram’s parallels with eshaan and his nature.
Remember,The dialogue, koi tho “apne dad ka beta” hai… by Nandu when Eshaan was introduced…
Again, just a speculation that , may be ram is not actually a son of vk, but someone who has been given the status of his son so that he becomes the DHAAL of the family and his backstory, is to be deduced.
Nandu despite all her flaws is not vile like MS.
What makes you think that she isn’t vile?
She is in her own way, vile too… she might not have done murder plans, but she was instrumental in getting Akki trapped by Sid and shubu and she made sure she sent raya to silver moon. And after all being said and done, she now puts the blame on her own son “Tera metoo kaand”😆 and recently when the will was made according to her wishes, she went from ‘we did it’ to ‘I did it’ with a gleam of greed😲
She doesn’t mind using her own children in gaining her motives, forget imbibing them with ethical and moral values… when She does that and so well, even her own brother is afraid of her 🤷♀️
Wo sage ko bhi dara/dhamka sakti hai, wo usually ‘not vile’ category me fit nahi hoti.
In some sense, she is similar to MS,
she passes threats when she thinks that the person she is passing those threats won’t retort and are dependent on her… and she definitely did that with mami and vedika . And she goes meek and sweet and manipulative and calculated in front of people she has to derive a benefit from.
She did have a generous side to her when she accepted a motherless child and loved him.
Go to wedding epis, she talks about how she had to become a mother overnight and that ram made her a mother the moment she walked in as vk’s wife… her dialogue sweet, her tone sly and her eyes with a long crinkle,
I should not admire this, but Simone, Narayani, Sangita, Shubaavi, mastered this art of clean bowling audiences while being vile😆 I could add jen too, but she is incomparable.no cap. 😎
She got selfish along the way but hopefully in some corner of her heart, she might have an ounce of love for Ram. ‘S benefits.
With Ekta maiyya, its possible her character turns black from grey even 
same thing,
Pri is also a daughter of narcissist, but it is the father side.
And
MM is a victim of narcissistic spouse and the society that dictated misconstrued meaning of a reverent sloka that pati is theparameswar🙄, MM might be a victim but there is a guardian in each mother that shields their child. So I find it hard to excuse MM.
even I find this hard to digest… we were told that she held herself together as she tried to build a secure life for her daughters , wo bhi 3, at first and 4th later…
she stood up to him in the past , as in during annulment kand, prawn situation, why is she not doing it again? To Keep up the appearances of Honour whose reality is out in the open infront of all, including pri’s in laws?
As of now, Sara does not know about Varun but though she has never gotten any love or respect from him, she respects him for accepting her with another man's child and the only reason she is bound to him is because he loves Ishaan a lot. She is tolerating him for the sake of her son.
But for whose sake is MM tolerating MS? And for what? At least if this man had been a loving father to their daughters, despite his betrayal she could have put up with him.
Same thing, the why of reason is not digestable considering her past actions against him… but yes, she does show a certain ptsd like symptoms…. But we never know🤷♀️
But forget being loving, even an enemy will not curse anybody the way this guy curses Priya, his own child.
It is said that the kids are not just that, in certain sense greater than the parents … he thought that priya was a curse and he married Rakhi to beget a male child… and his inadequacy as father is reflected in how raj turned out to be.
The very son he soooo wanted for whom he left the gem of a daughter , who is standing against him with a greater humanity and capability and compassion….that his own son wishes to get the support of🤣
His curses are to justify his own sins…
She was silent when he humiliated Priya but she is also silent after knowing he tried to kill her.
Don’t even remind me… I was extremely pissed off 😡on the day he walked in as if sh is his own house while Shikki were there.
while the actual sloka actually means pati must be likeparameswar, benevolent and reasonable and protective ….☺️ -Like how ram said so in yesterday’s episode.
It will go out the window the moment Nandu accuses Priya
So not much hopes from Ram.
Banda is thinking these days… but again, who knows 🤷♀️
We have discussed this, if ram or mm aren’t seeing sense infront of Nandu or ms, it is their mind/ psyche playing in the pattern against themselves coz of past trauma…
While Nandu manipulates, MS threatens. So it is different.
I told how Nandu and MS are kinda similar in manipulation and threatening patterns….
But ,don’t you think threatening is also a form of manipulation 🤔
Nandu draws out helplessness out of sympathy while MS draws out helplessness out of lack of it…🙄
In this case mm is aware of ms, but keeps quiet coz of Varun thing, whatever that is… if that comes out in open… I think mm won’t bow down to ms that much…
Not much hopes there coz if Priya's near death incident wasn't an eyeopener, I donno what will be
property is linked between them, other than that, I don’t see why soods entertain ms…. But the behaviour they have around him clearly represents recovering Stockholm’s except Sandy.🤷♀️
I will put a pic up, see the characteristics, doesn’t it ring a bell?

Priya will be the one handling ram’s side of narcs and Ram will be handling pri’s side , therefore the role reversals and switching placements! Coz : read point no. 18👆
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