BALH 2 EDT #21 - Page 119

Originally posted by: Hero_Coconut

I'm sorry for disagreeing but who discusses consummation? That's just something that happens in the moment. There will be situations where the couple will understand. You don't need words.

When it comes to pregnancy, you don't need a conversation usually you can tell if ready for such a step. That is when it wasn't lead by pressure.

I think Tirchi meant our discussions in the forum 🤔

Sakshi Tanwar is coming to r show !!

Damn excited , I have never seen any of her shows, but heard so much about her acting !!

I saw that one clip where Priya confesses her love and she was terrific

Sakshi and DP in one frame 😍😍

Originally posted by: RitikaS99

I get what your saying.

See what ram is doing is not wrong in his view bcz till priya no one has ever asked him to be accountable for his actions or decisions, not even nandini. Everyone has just has always accepted everything he does. And that is the flaw in his upbringing.

Remember shivina's dialogue in the pilot. KM me vahi hota hai jo ram bhai chahte hai. Why do you think nandini manipulated ram so much, bcz she knows ram needs to think it's his decision for him to do anything.

There was one person ram used to listen that was vedika but now he doesn't listen to her anymore. But still vedika also has never hold ram accountable to her either.

Ram has never learned been answerable to anyone in his life. Priya is the first person who he saw is different than how he has seen other as. He is slowly learning but the thing is when all your life Everyone has just accepted your every actions as they are set in stone your first instinct is not explaining yourself to anyone.

Good insight & very well articulated!

But all the more reason Pri shd seek answers coz marriage is a relationship of mutual accountability. If she does not set the right precedent he will never learn this & she will basically be doing what her mum did, living in an ‘ignorance is bliss’ kind of delusion. If she is lucky, Ram will remain the gem that he is. But if he changes, she may find out too late.

See, it is like saying the PM is a very good man so need for checks & balances in the Parliament. Or that the CEO is a good man so no neec to do auditing. No matter how good the person, people change, sometimes situations change people, hence an institution can only thrive if there are systemic checks & balances, it cannot rely only on the current goodness of the parties. So it is with marriage.

Originally posted by: Bana

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When? I dont remember that he refused in words (except bakery scene which one cant count).

He did say that vedika is his past. Pyar karta tha. Was his refusal to go back to vedika. He wanted to explain she didn't let him that time.

And Why doesn't the Bakery one counts. If you are asking him to tell her he loves her when she is drunk bcz it's the intention and right thing then why his refusal when she is drunk not being counted.

It doesn't work both ways.

Priya very specifically asked him his wish, he decided to tell her through actions and not words.

I understand that verbal clarification is important but they are trying to establish that since the beginning their language is actions and not words.

Priya since the start of her marriage is doing so much for Ram through her actions no matter what she said but her actions were always contradicting her words for him.

And bcz of those actions and not her words he fell in love with her.

Now learning from priya he is implementing the same logic from his side.

That through his actions only he will make Priya fall in love with him too.

You have to remember that Ram is relearning the definition of love through priya. And whenever we are learning something new we make mistakes. I'm not saying that you should not questions those mistakes but you can't hold a grudge against it too.

Priya asked him a question and told him she wants to make this marriage work. The ball was in his court, he accepted that by going after her, buying that auto, not leaving her side even though he can't tolerate heat, showing her the difference in intimacy he has with Priya and others. And for priya those actions spoked louder than words.

Ram has always stood by her whenever anyone questioned her character or loyalty. This time she decided to put her fears aside and trust him. A person cannot live in fear their entire life, at point they have to decide if it's fear they want or a chance at happiness.

Priya just took that chance, it's risky but without any risk nothing is worth holding onto.

Originally posted by: Bana

Good insight & very well articulated!

But all the more reason Pri shd seek answers coz marriage is a relationship of mutual accountability. If she does not set the right precedent he will never learn this & she will basically be doing what her mum did, living in an ‘ignorance is bliss’ kind of delusion. If she is lucky, Ram will remain the gem that he is. But if he changes, she may find out too late.

See, it is like saying the PM is a very good man so need for checks & balances in the Parliament. Or that the CEO is a good man so no neec to do auditing. No matter how good the person, people change, sometimes situations change people, hence an institution can only thrive if there are systemic checks & balances, it cannot rely only on the current goodness of the parties. So it is with marriage.

See what your saying is true. No doubt in it. But there is also another truth that this is how a Real relationship works!

A very large Audience watches these shows to get an escape from reality. They like these fairy tale kinda stories which might never work in real life. That's why these shows go on for so long.

People like fictions! They donot like reality staring back at them. Tv is an escape to get some good laughs and forget about their worries.

Not everyone is as practical as you, me or many others here on the forum. People like living in ignorance. Tv is that ignorance for them.

I don't know what else to say.

Originally posted by: RitikaS99

See what your saying is true. No doubt in it. But there is also another truth that this is how a Real relationship works!

A very large Audience watches these shows to get an escape from reality. They like these fairy tale kinda stories which might never work in real life. That's why these shows go on for so long.

People like fictions! They donot like reality staring back at them. Tv is an escape to get some good laughs and forget about their worries.

Not everyone is as practical as you, me or many others here on the forum. People like living in ignorance. Tv is that ignorance for them.

I don't know what else to say.

I was a little confused too before with P not asking any questions.. but i guess seeing the sneak peek.. it makes sense... The way R said koi safai nahi mangi . Bharosa kiya .. i think they wanted to show that the foundation of their marriage has already been cemented with trust after all the previous kaands and the way they had stood for each other. They have had their share of MUs.

I know it's all fiction and no one chose to remain silent when it's so easy to seek answers.. but its still convincing to me. I don't see any reason why P should not trust him... And she chose to do that instead of asking questions. And that's ok.

Most of us who have partners have that fundamental trust... We may still ask questions but we already know the answers.. ye fundamental trust that your partner is not going to cheat u and have an affair or will not lie to u and love someone else... Ye to basic hai na... Whats a relationship without that ?

Just my view after so much of debate on this... Don't bash me :))))

Originally posted by: bhubhnis

I was a little confused too before with P not asking any questions.. but i guess seeing the sneak peek.. it makes sense... The way R said koi safai nahi mangi . Bharosa kiya .. i think they wanted to show that the foundation of their marriage has already been cemented with trust after all the previous kaands and the way they had stood for each other. They have had their share of MUs.

I know it's all fiction and no one chose to remain silent when it's so easy to seek answers.. but its still convincing to me. I don't see any reason why P should not trust him... And she chose to do that instead of asking questions. And that's ok.

Most of us who have partners have that fundamental trust... We may still ask questions but we already know the answers.. ye fundamental trust that your partner is not going to cheat u and have an affair or will not lie to u and love someone else... Ye to basic hai na... Whats a relationship without that ?

Just my view after so much of debate on this... Don't bash me :))))

As an audience, the trouble I have is figuring out how the trust developed in the first place. Amidst all the MUs how often have the leads really communicated? After a whole lot of dragging, suddenly things seem to be going at jet speed. In S1 the grown in the relationship was shown very beautifully, so in the later episodes their actions(based on mutual trust) make sense. That is where the disconnect comes in for me. There are a whole lot of things left unsaid and open for the audience to interpret..and frankly I would have lost interest had not it been for the various perspectives discussed in this forum plus my desire to keep seeing the exceptional work of the leads no matter what material they are given to work with 😊.

Originally posted by: RitikaS99

See what your saying is true. No doubt in it. But there is also another truth that this is how a Real relationship works!

A very large Audience watches these shows to get an escape from reality. They like these fairy tale kinda stories which might never work in real life. That's why these shows go on for so long.

People like fictions! They donot like reality staring back at them. Tv is an escape to get some good laughs and forget about their worries.

Not everyone is as practical as you, me or many others here on the forum. People like living in ignorance. Tv is that ignorance for them.

I don't know what else to say.

Trueee

It's natural to feel indignant/raged (no one knows that better than us, except maybe 🐦). We invest our time into these relationships and characters and feel betrayed when things don't go the way we want them to (which is objectively the right way and all our arguments are very valid).

But it's just entertainment, at the end of the day.

If it stresses us out instead of entertaining us, it's better to take a break and come back later. Or selectively watch the parts that make us happy 😆

CVs have resources but they don't utilise them to the best of their abilities. We end up being their collateral damage. Bitter truth, terribly unfair. But hey, that's just how it is.

Let's hope we get to watch these actors in a different story, with better direction, someday 😌

Originally posted by: DazzlingLight

As an audience, the trouble I have is figuring out how the trust developed in the first place. Amidst all the MUs how often have the leads really communicated? After a whole lot of dragging, suddenly things seem to be going at jet speed. In S1 the grown in the relationship was shown very beautifully, so in the later episodes their actions(based on mutual trust) make sense. That is where the disconnect comes in for me. There are a whole lot of things left unsaid and open for the audience to interpret..and frankly I would have lost interest had not it been for the various perspectives discussed in this forum plus my desire to keep seeing the exceptional work of the leads no matter what material they are given to work with 😊.

I know it's a short time (6 months) but i could relate to it.. P had enough reasons to trust R... Will be a long list if i recount every . But this guy had stood up for her... her brother, her sister, her mom and just in general the way he behaved with her .. the importance he gave her... I feel her trust ii's not completely out of blue

Even Akki trusted him without any proof :))

Lets agree to disagree :))

Originally posted by: RitikaS99

See what your saying is true. No doubt in it. But there is also another truth that this is how a Real relationship works!

A very large Audience watches these shows to get an escape from reality. They like these fairy tale kinda stories which might never work in real life. That's why these shows go on for so long.

People like fictions! They donot like reality staring back at them. Tv is an escape to get some good laughs and forget about their worries.

Not everyone is as practical as you, me or many others here on the forum. People like living in ignorance. Tv is that ignorance for them.

I don't know what else to say.

I don't think even the fairy tale audience will mind a civil decent conversation . We have all patiently waited for more than150 episodes for the actual romance to start..

One episode of a good conversation is not too much to ask for and won't affect the TRPs too .

Ram and Priya are 2 completely different individuals..

Ram has the ability to truly let go of unpleasant situations without holding grudges . Because his priorities r different . He would rather accept people in spite of everything they do to him rather than letting them go..

Priya is made of different stuff. She went by her gut feeling and chose to trust Ram when she found out that he was lying about being in the office . She had the chance to seek answers from him, instead she went by her gut feeling and chose to trust him , did that help her ??

No, next time she found the private messages, she added this previous lie to it , and ended up feeling hurt. She brought back that issue in spite of settling it with Ram that day, by testing him in the interview.

Once again she goes by her instinct , is satisfied by all his actions , him taking care of her , dragging her away from all the noise, his answers during the interview , but still doesn't tell him about the messages.

She herself convicted him , herself tested him , and herself gave the judgement ..

Did this non-confrontational attitude and trust on him without a bi-directional communication help her ??

No, finally when the ex-matter is revealed , both the issues she let go, once again hit her back, and she ends up blaming Ram of living dohri zindagi, fareb, dhokebaazi , you r like MS and all that..

So now is the time for bi-directional communication , if once again she let's it go , blindly believes his actions , tomorrow another misunderstanding crops up, then what ?? Back to her same insecurities?? How long will this loop run??

As Priya says, " Mere jo dil ka dimaak hai na, bohot tez hai , sab dhokke sab fareb yaad rakhta hai".

Priya cannot let go of things completely without holding grudges , that is why it is important for her to communicate with Ram.

If you see the precap, she is still insecure and afraid to fall in love..

What is she afraid of now? Is it destiny , that she is afraid of now , that it'll snatch Ram from her ??

If that is the case , fine..

But if she is still has even an iota of doubt about Ram's character , or about the fact that Ram may himself reject her and leave her one day like the other men in her life ,then this blind trust on him makes no sense to me..

I really want a proper monologue , to understand where exactly does she stand in life in terms of her past baggage , in terms of her inferiority complexes, her insecurities in this marriage ..

Had she shared these apprehensions with Ram , had a proper conversation , she would have been much more confident today. It is high time that Priya includes Ram in her inner circle, shares her feelings, her doubts , her insecurities with him instead of testing him in her head, a test that Ram is not even aware of .

Him buying the auto, running behind her , the kiss ,all of this is nice goody goody , but not enough for the level of insecurities and trust issues Priya suffers from.

I don't say , Ram' actions don't count , don't believe them !!

Believe them , bask in this new found happiness, enjoy it , but still go ahead and ask questions and for once face all your inner demons .

The reason I say this is, next time an issue crops up, Priya should not sit and regret that she did not seek for answers.. Audience will not have the patience to see her going back to square one of her insecurities. She has all the time in the world right now, to go ahead and talk, there is no urgency , no one is holding her at gun point , even Ram said " I owe you all the answers" , so the ball is in Priya's court, if she has chosen to trust him, without explanation, she should not blame him the next time . For me the onus is on Priya now, if she asks, Ram will have to answer . Upto her..