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milinda.shreyz

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Posted: 11 years ago

#11

thank gawd, apne likhi @ khatamkahani.😊

your name plz ??

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milinda.shreyz

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Posted: 11 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani
^^ Calle me Liks, Shreya.

hello liks !

ajki episode dekhi tumne ?

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KhatamKahani

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Posted: 11 years ago

#13

Yes, I watched. I don't have an complaints towards the episode. Not much to say either. it was good. Raghvendra is a control freak but that's been said again and again.

I think the show makers are pretty gutsy for showing this track, and even the overall theme of this story is pretty gutsy. Of a girl breaking out of her father's tight grip.

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LoveToLaugh

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani
Yes, I watched. I don't have an complaints towards the episode. Not much to say either. it was good. Raghvendra is a control freak but that's been said again and again.
I think the show makers are pretty gutsy for showing this track, and even the overall theme of this story is pretty gutsy. Of a girl breaking out of her father's tight grip.

I was actually pretty disappointed with the episode. Raghavendra is a control freak and yes, it has been said many times. But to waste an entire episode on that? 😕

Practically nothing substantial happened. And Yamini! Kuchh toh bolti! I mean, she could have said that it just got there by chance. They were rehearsing with it or something and that she would return it the first thing next day? I don't know. Chup chap she just gave the phone to him. Did she forget that it wasn't her phone to hand over like that? The freak that Raghavendra is, he may not even return it.

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Loveleen Brar

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Posted: 11 years ago

#15

My favorite five scenes are probably...

The shayari that Nikumbh comes up with in Yamini's make up room.

I really like his creativity and that scene depicted how artistically he views the world. To Nikumbh everything is beautiful and has a certain adaa or charm that he defines in his own poetic manner which is a quality not many have.

Yamini and Nikumbh's first meeting and clash of identities.

I liked the whole clashing because though it was the typical argument of a first meeting, it had an unusual uniqueness to it.

It was probably because of the fact that a few scenes prior Yamini was unable to speak up regarding her attire.

Yamini's acting or mimicry in the mirror by herself.

The first time Yamini did this, I was thoroughly amused at how different a person she is when she doesn't wear the mask that her father makes her wear. She is so lively when she is with Daddu or by herself because she probably only trusts herself and Daddu to not reveal anything to her father.

Shahin and Azam are cute as always so all of their scenes are interesting to watch in fact any scene with Azam is worth watching.

Nikumbh and Yamini in the shop during the riots.

I enjoyed how they expressed themselves in this particular sequence because they learned a lot more about each other. Not enough to understand each other's character but enough to grasp certain details about the other's personality.

Finally I think the scene with Nikumbh explaining the different aspects of a person's nature through the three bottles was very interesting and so true.

It is amazing how mature and perceptive both Nikumbh and Yamini are. They think about every with so much maturity that it amazes me. Mostly Nikumbh, he wants to bring out the best and most positive side of any personality. He definitely has a heart of gold.

Another thing that I have mentioned in Anu's thread is that I love how Nikumbh comes up with different games to help everyone unwind and express. They are so innovative and again his creativity plays a big part in it.

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KhatamKahani

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Posted: 11 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: LoveToLaugh

I was actually pretty disappointed with the episode. Raghavendra is a control freak and yes, it has been said many times. But to waste an entire episode on that? 😕

Practically nothing substantial happened. And Yamini! Kuchh toh bolti! I mean, she could have said that it just got there by chance. They were rehearsing with it or something and that she would return it the first thing next day? I don't know. Chup chap she just gave the phone to him. Did she forget that it wasn't her phone to hand over like that? The freak that Raghavendra is, he may not even return it.

I am willing to give one or two filler episodes here and there. But yeah I do agree nothing substantial happened. But I don't have any particular complaint either so far. The one thing I thought dragged was when Nikumbh called and Raghvendra answered. It went on for almost a minute.

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Loveleen Brar

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Posted: 11 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

I am willing to give one or two filler episodes here and there. But yeah I do agree nothing substantial happened. But I don't have any particular complaint either so far. The one thing I thought dragged was when Nikumbh called and Raghvendra answered. It went on for almost a minute.

I agree with both of you. There was nothing that showed any development in the track or story. I was disappointed again with Yamini but then again you can't just expect her to become Jhansi ki Rani after buying one ring. Nothing has really driven her to break free from her father's shackles so she is still the same Yamini. There are changes, but nothing that can cause her to take a stand at this point.

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KhatamKahani

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Posted: 11 years ago

#18

^^Yup, exactly. You can't expect her to say 'no Papa' and not give the phone back. It's going to take time.

Also, while all of us here are on the side of Yamini having a mobile, if you notice the show is taking a different approach--which is in how Yamini will go about in convincing Raghvendra to acquiesce. I think she may set up a situation where he will have no choice but to agree to it.

This issue is not a small issue. I was about to make a topic on it, but then didn't feel like it. I have seen shows where girls' rights to mobiles were taken away--without it in anyway acknowledged as wrong in the narrative. It wasn't even made a big deal, just basically something which is inferred. (Ex. A girl marries into a conservative family, and suddenly her mobile disappears and she only uses the male members' phones or the house phones.)

Then there are the other shows these days where they do show girls with mobiles and is no big deal. But at the same time, though they have mobiles they are constrained and restricted in other ways and the narrative does nothing to combat the regressive thoughts of the families.

It is a huge deal for the Narrator to have laid it out last week on which path this show is going to take with the 'aap ghalat hai' lines to society.

While Raghvendra is no doubt shown as a control freak, and one who makes decisions with which conservative families would disagree (Neha's dress), he is still the father and the head of the family. And for a daughter to be shown standing up to her parents and father is still a big deal. I don't think this was the case around 15 years ago, but since the Saas Bahu era came about television mostly has been mostly regressive without too many such progressive stances (this is not to say there aren't and haven't been progressive shows).

The makers are smart in having the grandmother know everything. Yamini went to the Bazaar, and everything that happened, she told her grandmother, who told her to make sure Raghvendra never finds out.

See in reality a star like Yamini would walk out after she achieves a bit more success, because Raghvendra's control freak is not going to ease up any other way in reality. Raghvendra wanted to move to Bombay to be a star. Yeah, she'll become a star, and take a stand against her father and walk out. Of course, I doubt the makers would go that route. But really, for controlling star fathers like Raghvendra, this is what they get coming to them.

I don't see Raghvendra easing up. Imagine after the play becomes a success and she wants to continue doing plays. Unless something happens out of fate/luck where he once again sees some good reason to allow her to do the play, Raghvendra would not allow Yamini to pursue her own goals and dreams. He would be the type to lock her in the house and forbid her from going out--as he threatened her that night of the riots. And that would be when a girl like Yamini would stand up and say she's pursuing her dreams and walk out till he accepts it. But as I said, chances of it playing out this way--I doubt it very much.

And I diverged. Coming back to the topic at hand, today's episode showed exactly how controlling Raghvendra is and how his mind works. Tomorrow or Monday Yamini will somehow find a way to make him agree out of necessity. Otherwise, there would be no way for him to agree. And right now Yamini still needs to go by his approval. And as I said, logically and realistically there would come time she would stand up and do what she wants regardless of Raghvendra's approval--now whether this ever happens is another thing all together.

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LoveToLaugh

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Posted: 11 years ago

#19

@Loveleen and KK (hope you don't mind me calling you that)

I wasn't really expecting Yamini to become a sherni (so to speak) overnight. In fact, had it been her own new phone, I would have understood completely. I don't know if Nikumbh has given it to her permanently, and definitely nobody asked him to plant a phone in her purse, but it was somebody else's phone. And I could not imagine Yamini being irresponsible about that, whatever her fears. And she honestly would have been completely truthful had she only said that she found it by chance and would be returning it.

But you guys are right, too. There are changes, but she is still the same Yamini. And it was perhaps smart this way. Story-wise.

I have never seen a cell phone being an issue ANYWHERE. I think the bigger problem is that parents are expected to take the right decisions and children are expected to comply. That is why it is never even pointed out as wrong in the narrative, even in instances like these. I agree, the track is brave like that. It challenges. And it uses something as basic as a cell phone. In this case, it is a pretty big deal.

Regarding Yamini walking out to pursue her dreams, just like you, I cannot see it ever happening. I imagine her as the Shakuntala that Nikumbh was talking about. Rooted and respectful, but also capable of raising her own voice. At this moment, even if it's only for the sake of the play, that is where they seem to be going.