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Posted: 13 years ago
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My dear Mushi,

Thanks for your detailed (and extremely colourful!) comments, and it was sweet of you to take time out for this when you must be so tied up with your studies.

I see your point of view that it was better to kill off Riya than to replace Sana. But I still do not agree with you on this, and in fact neither should you agree with yourself! Let me explain why.

I was against it for a different reason,as I have set out in my post and my response to dee86 above, but let us take it from your angle, that of an (eventual) Ariya love story. Don't you see that the chances of any love story involving Arjun have receded even further because of Riya's tragic death?

As I had written in another thread, it does not matter whether Arjun cried at Riya's bedside or at the funeral or not.He did not cry, but that means nothing. When he closes Riya's eyes, he thinks back to Roshni's eyes freezing in death, which is really what matters. For even if he did not love Riya, he definitely cared for her, and the linkage, in his mind, between the dying Riya and the dying Roshni shows only one thing: that his guilt at having let Roshni down in now doubled because he was unable to save Riya as well.

What he says to the dying Riya is "Pyaar ka dard wohi samajhte hain jinka pyaar adhoora rah jata hai" . For those needing a translation, it means "Only those whose love is cut short (or left unfulfilled) can understand the pain of love".

This applies equally to Arjun's love for Roshni, which was brutally cut short, and to what Riya feels for him, which is one-sided and is also being cut short before it could get anywhere. Arjun knows that, and so he has a special soft corner for Riya, even if he does not love her.

Both he and Rathore feel the loss of Riya acutely, only they do not show it, for that is not in their nature. As Rathore tells Chotu "Ham sab ka vahi haal hai. Kisi ke aansoo dikte hain, kisi ke nahin dikte". ( We are all in the same state. for some, their tears can be seen, but those of others cannot be seen). Arjun is of course even more introverted than Rathore.

He is thus even more guilt-ridden now than he already was, and any chance there was of his rising above the loss of Roshni has been further reduced to next to nothing, and that for a long time to come.

So you see, my dear Mushi, it would have been much, much better for all of you Ariya-philes if Sana had been replaced after a few weeks. We would all have got used to the new Riya - this is hardly the first time a TV serial lead is replaced - and the Ariya track that you all want so badly could have been carried forward, with an added dose of respect for Riya from Arjun and the rest because of her bravery, readiness to sacrifice her life, and her presence of mind.

Now don't you agree with me that a replacement would have been better all round? 😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: mushiroxx

Dear shamyala aunty...😳

finally im editing this one...sorry for being late but was busy with uni work...
to start with...RIP riya mukherjee...😭😭😭
the killing was just a final blow to all our hopes of seeing arjun-riya together😭
and i feel horrible about that...😕
any ways coming to ur post...i agree killing a famous character, that too a lead, out of the blue was plain shocking...🤢 i read the articles about sana's deteriorating health and all...but i still feel (deep down inside me ...n plz people don't kill me for saying this) ...that the PH and sana should have worked something out if they had been a bit pressurized by the fans...that's why they kept us all ignorant till the very scene was aired where riya breathed her last...😭 but i think killing riya was a better option than replacing sana ...(for me atleast coz i love sana as riya to bits) 😳😆😳 and i respect ur opinion as well...😛
gender bias thing...aunty i can agree to it to some extent but not as a whole...riya's character was made that way ...she was soft, kind, emotional, girlish but she did prove her worth when needed...she shot the man who was about to shoot arjun...she beat the crap out of that shashank who was after her in that kalki devi case...😆 the males surviving the deadliest of battles...well arjun n rathore r far more experienced than riya ...so they can tackle the situations better...(that's not a good explaination but it's the only one that i can find right now) 😆
as for ariya romance...im heart-broken n that's all i can say...😭
a gallantry medal...oh yes even i thought about that...she deserves it...as she has sacrificed her life to save many lives...👏👏 hope the CVs bring this one in ...😕😳
lastly, a lovely post 👏 i enjoyed reading it n it did make me emotional all over again...will miss riya mukherjee (the life-line of ETF)😭😭 n of course my ARIYA(dunno why CVs did that to us...i really hate this feeling...girrr)🤢

Mushi...😳

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Posted: 13 years ago
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😆😆 i would have loved even more if instead of replacement CVs would have introduced 2,3 more female cops to ETF so that sana's work-load as well as fighting sequences would have been reduced...and we would have got our ARIYA dose...😉❤️
n yes i know if that was the case then a replacement was better but...sana as riya...(awww i miss her)
now i don't want any love track fro arjun...coz as u mentioned his guilt must have been doubled n showing him romancing someone again will be like,...😆🤢
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear fellow admirers of Riya,

Requiescat in pacem. This is the Latin inscription often found on tombstones in graveyards, and it translates as Rest in peace. This is pretty much what the FB message of October 28 from the CVs sought to convey to us, in a nice, thoughtful, and yet totally unsatisfactory manner, as could be seen from the immediate responses on the IF thread where this message was reproduced.

Riya's exit cruel and unnecessary: And no wonder. How could they convincingly explain why they had to murder a very popular character out of the blue, and that too as abruptly as extinguishing a candle? I felt very depressed watching that long drawn out death scene, and I can imagine how much it must have hurt all you young people in the Arjun forum who are far more emotional than I. One could hardly be expected to admire or relate to the high emotional content of Riya's last moments, or the harrowing performances by all concerned, when one was sick to the pit of one's stomach. It was, to my mind, stupid, because it was totally unnecessary.

Now I expect that they will wait for a week or more before landing us with a new female officer, for that is necessary for gender equality, like the African-American or female partners for tough guy cops like Clint Eastwood and Mel Gibson.

But why kill Riya at all? If they had to change the actress, they could have packed Riya off on a month's leave to recover, and then eased her replacement into the show. She was a fully rounded out character, and a back story was called for to explain her mental block against shooting anyone, not to speak of filling her family history etc, out. Why have they decided to waste all the build-up of Riya as a person and as an officer so far- and the CVs message underlines this point with great emphasis - and just junk her without a second thought just because Sana wanted to leave?

Gender bias at work?: I sometimes feel than in crime series on TV, they treat the female officers like interchangeable props. They are rarely shown as contributing anything substantial to the detection process - Riya was better off than most in this respect, partly because the ETF team is so small and compact - and they are invariably the first, in fact the only ones to be bumped off.

I shall name no names so as not to violate the IF rules, but the fact is that in the other such series that I used to watch till 2008 (I dropped it when the team became too unwieldy and the stories too trite and run of the mill), the only officers who died on duty, by being stabbed or shot by a criminal, were the women. The men survived the most appalling attacks, including losing gallons of blood, and even being walled into a tiny cubicle, almost miraculously, exactly like the heroines of old time films. I never saw any of these male officers kicking the bucket in the line of duty.

We have examples of this in Arjun as well. The CV's message stresses that the ETF members are in great danger 24x7, at times mortal danger ' and they add, to drive home this point, that ACP Rathod was nearly murdered, that Arjun and Riya were shot at, and that Shree was trapped. But in citing these examples they are, inadvertently, proving my thesis of the gender bias. Yes, ACP Rathod was nearly murdered in cold blood, after a long drawn out and sadistic prelude, by Vidyut Satham, and Arjun was saved from certain death only by the Ganapati coin in his pocket (which was there only thanks to Riya). But the pertinent fact is that none of these male officers died. They all escaped from very threatening situations, and emerged hale and hearty (or almost so).

Let us be honest CVs, no matter what you say, can you ever seriously contemplate Arjun or Rathod actually getting killed?

But a Riya Mukherjee can get killed, and she did, as we saw on Saturday, after a whole week of false optimism. She was shown to be a martial arts expert, who could take much stronger men on and floor them. Why then did she let herself be immobilized so easily from behind by Rajat Sharma, who was no strongman like Chhotu? Why did she not use her skills to twist her body inside his grasp and kick him or punch him in the crotch, which would have brought him to his knees? No, she had to be shown as inexplicably inefficient and easily overwhelmed, and they set her up for the Great Sacrifice of her life.

It is even more of a Great Shame, and I am sure all of you feel the same way as I do. It also seems to me to indicate that in the future, the focus will be more and more on the crime solving aspect of the show, and much less on any emotional bonding within the team, except in terms of loyalty to each other. I am not besotted by Ariya romances, but even I had been almost sure that there would be an Arjun-Riya love story eventually. That is obviously over now.

Police Gallantry Medal for Riya: This apart, Riya/Sana was a bright, beautiful girl and, more important, a capable, conscientious, and very courageous ETF officer. When the time came, the unexpected sloppiness I have mentioned above apart, she showed tremendous guts and presence of mind, plus the readiness to put the people at large ahead of herself and to make the supreme sacrifice for their sake. No one could ask anything more of her. As Haruhi mentioned in a post, it was a heroic way to go. I do not agree that she need have died at all, but as an exit, it was a perfect one ' she was brave and unflinching, warm and considerate, humble and conscientious, right till her last breath.

I was only disappointed that they did not show any press articles praising her courage, or mention her being recommended by the Police Commissioner for the President's Police Medal for Gallantry for her bravery, which really went far beyond the call of duty.

But the latter is an omission that can be easily remedied by the CVs. This award takes a good bit of time to decide on, and it can thus be shown as being awarded in some future episode.

I very much hope that the CVs will do this without fail, for they owe it to their creation. I would request all of you who feel likewise to take this up with the CVs in the most effective manner you can think of.

Riya unquestionably deserves the President's Police Medal for Gallantry. To quote the official write up "The President's Police Medal for Gallantry is the most prestigious award for any police officer in the country. It is awarded for displaying conspicuous gallantry, courage and devotion to duty of very high order. The police officer keeps the duty before self in completing the task. This award is rare in itself as the action should match the risk involved on the occasion."

Nothing fits these requirements better than what Riya Mukherjee accomplished in the line of duty, knowing beyond doubt that it would be at the cost of her life, and thus showing courage and dedication that went way beyond the call of duty. I hope they show her as being given this Medal posthumously, as happens very often in real life. The award, which is rare, is given by the President of India at the Republic Day parade on January 26.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Let me tell you that your article was read by one of the CVs... and they have fulfilled your wish, by awarding Riya for bravery!

Well done, it just shows that valid points are always registered by the CVs..

Send a thank you note to the CVs, on Face Book, if you can... it is always nice to appreciate their little efforts to please the fans! 😊

Also Kudos to you for presenting your point so meticulously!

Thank You👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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My dear bsp,

It was so thoughtful of you to let me know that my lament over Riya's sudden demise, with the specific and strong recommendation about a gallantry award for Riya ,was both read and acted upon by the CVs. It makes me feel good, and of course I will write and thank them for having accepted a valid suggestion. It is the least I can do to show my appreciation!

Thank you too, so very much, for liking the post. I felt bad about the way in which she was eased out, unnecessarily to my mind, and I am happy that you share my feelings about this, and also about my overall analysis.

I do not know if you are at all interested in detailed analyses of the individual episodes, of which I have so far done 4 - on the cases of the swimming pool murder and the dead stockbroker over 6 weeks back, and now 2 more on Episode 26 and 27, which I have named Old Sins cast Long Shadows (at
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/arjun/3285979/arjun-episode-26-old-sins-cast-long-shadows
) and Varying Shades of Love (at
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/arjun/3295922/arjun-episode-27-varying-shades-of-love
) respectively.

If you have the time and the inclination, please take a look at them and let me have your comments. If you survive these in good order and have the patience for more of the same, I will direct you to the first two!😉

Best regards.

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Originally posted by: bsp0207


Let me tell you that your article was read by one of the CVs... and they have fulfilled your wish, by awarding Riya for bravery!

Well done, it just shows that valid points are always registered by the CVs..

Send a thank you note to the CVs, on Face Book, if you can... it is always nice to appreciate their little efforts to please the fans! 😊

Also Kudos to you for presenting your point so meticulously!

Thank You👏



Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear fellow admirers of Riya,

Requiescat in pacem. This is the Latin inscription often found on tombstones in graveyards, and it translates as Rest in peace. This is pretty much what the FB message of October 28 from the CVs sought to convey to us, in a nice, thoughtful, and yet totally unsatisfactory manner, as could be seen from the immediate responses on the IF thread where this message was reproduced.

Riya's exit cruel and unnecessary: And no wonder. How could they convincingly explain why they had to murder a very popular character out of the blue, and that too as abruptly as extinguishing a candle? I felt very depressed watching that long drawn out death scene, and I can imagine how much it must have hurt all you young people in the Arjun forum who are far more emotional than I. One could hardly be expected to admire or relate to the high emotional content of Riya's last moments, or the harrowing performances by all concerned, when one was sick to the pit of one's stomach. It was, to my mind, stupid, because it was totally unnecessary.

Now I expect that they will wait for a week or more before landing us with a new female officer, for that is necessary for gender equality, like the African-American or female partners for tough guy cops like Clint Eastwood and Mel Gibson.

But why kill Riya at all? If they had to change the actress, they could have packed Riya off on a month's leave to recover, and then eased her replacement into the show. She was a fully rounded out character, and a back story was called for to explain her mental block against shooting anyone, not to speak of filling her family history etc, out. Why have they decided to waste all the build-up of Riya as a person and as an officer so far- and the CVs message underlines this point with great emphasis - and just junk her without a second thought just because Sana wanted to leave?

Gender bias at work?: I sometimes feel than in crime series on TV, they treat the female officers like interchangeable props. They are rarely shown as contributing anything substantial to the detection process - Riya was better off than most in this respect, partly because the ETF team is so small and compact - and they are invariably the first, in fact the only ones to be bumped off.

I shall name no names so as not to violate the IF rules, but the fact is that in the other such series that I used to watch till 2008 (I dropped it when the team became too unwieldy and the stories too trite and run of the mill), the only officers who died on duty, by being stabbed or shot by a criminal, were the women. The men survived the most appalling attacks, including losing gallons of blood, and even being walled into a tiny cubicle, almost miraculously, exactly like the heroines of old time films. I never saw any of these male officers kicking the bucket in the line of duty.

We have examples of this in Arjun as well. The CV's message stresses that the ETF members are in great danger 24x7, at times mortal danger ' and they add, to drive home this point, that ACP Rathod was nearly murdered, that Arjun and Riya were shot at, and that Shree was trapped. But in citing these examples they are, inadvertently, proving my thesis of the gender bias. Yes, ACP Rathod was nearly murdered in cold blood, after a long drawn out and sadistic prelude, by Vidyut Satham, and Arjun was saved from certain death only by the Ganapati coin in his pocket (which was there only thanks to Riya). But the pertinent fact is that none of these male officers died. They all escaped from very threatening situations, and emerged hale and hearty (or almost so).

Let us be honest CVs, no matter what you say, can you ever seriously contemplate Arjun or Rathod actually getting killed?

But a Riya Mukherjee can get killed, and she did, as we saw on Saturday, after a whole week of false optimism. She was shown to be a martial arts expert, who could take much stronger men on and floor them. Why then did she let herself be immobilized so easily from behind by Rajat Sharma, who was no strongman like Chhotu? Why did she not use her skills to twist her body inside his grasp and kick him or punch him in the crotch, which would have brought him to his knees? No, she had to be shown as inexplicably inefficient and easily overwhelmed, and they set her up for the Great Sacrifice of her life.

It is even more of a Great Shame, and I am sure all of you feel the same way as I do. It also seems to me to indicate that in the future, the focus will be more and more on the crime solving aspect of the show, and much less on any emotional bonding within the team, except in terms of loyalty to each other. I am not besotted by Ariya romances, but even I had been almost sure that there would be an Arjun-Riya love story eventually. That is obviously over now.

Police Gallantry Medal for Riya: This apart, Riya/Sana was a bright, beautiful girl and, more important, a capable, conscientious, and very courageous ETF officer. When the time came, the unexpected sloppiness I have mentioned above apart, she showed tremendous guts and presence of mind, plus the readiness to put the people at large ahead of herself and to make the supreme sacrifice for their sake. No one could ask anything more of her. As Haruhi mentioned in a post, it was a heroic way to go. I do not agree that she need have died at all, but as an exit, it was a perfect one ' she was brave and unflinching, warm and considerate, humble and conscientious, right till her last breath.

I was only disappointed that they did not show any press articles praising her courage, or mention her being recommended by the Police Commissioner for the President's Police Medal for Gallantry for her bravery, which really went far beyond the call of duty.

But the latter is an omission that can be easily remedied by the CVs. This award takes a good bit of time to decide on, and it can thus be shown as being awarded in some future episode.

I very much hope that the CVs will do this without fail, for they owe it to their creation. I would request all of you who feel likewise to take this up with the CVs in the most effective manner you can think of.

Riya unquestionably deserves the President's Police Medal for Gallantry. To quote the official write up "The President's Police Medal for Gallantry is the most prestigious award for any police officer in the country. It is awarded for displaying conspicuous gallantry, courage and devotion to duty of very high order. The police officer keeps the duty before self in completing the task. This award is rare in itself as the action should match the risk involved on the occasion."

Nothing fits these requirements better than what Riya Mukherjee accomplished in the line of duty, knowing beyond doubt that it would be at the cost of her life, and thus showing courage and dedication that went way beyond the call of duty. I hope they show her as being given this Medal posthumously, as happens very often in real life. The award, which is rare, is given by the President of India at the Republic Day parade on January 26.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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