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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: Blueeeee

I mean, they will throw the wife out of the 'house' if 'she dares support anyone else' as if that is not literal domestic violence. The tone of some of the things I read on the internet

Just because an individual woman is a toxic fictional character, let not justify misogynistic gender roles for the sake of our hatred/love of a character.

People can divorce their bad wives, you know, without turning machismo machismo domestic violence okay


I have seen in USA too men going and leaving wife at her home and returning alone giving reasons that shes not speaking english properly shes not modern enough educated enough etc flimsy reasons (indian/asian men)


And here anupama is going everyday to ex husband house so based on how asian men behave in gen i told that a husband would ask her to leave home if she cannot stop meeting her ex hubby. May be my way of writing was wrong but most indian men would behave like vanraj stopping her on door after coming late than like anuj silent and tolerating. Thats what i wanted to communicate. That indian hubby would behave 98% like vanraj than anuj kapadiay is behaving


I do not mind anuj vanraj anupama doing threesome if they all agree to it thats their decision. But as far as i have observed Indian husbands only what i told would happen than what law or anyone says. And police also do not help or interfere in domestic abuse case unless it does not come in media or an NGO gets involved. Even if indian wife gos and says my hubby hit me they will say this is personal matter madam compromise why spoil your family life? etc i know woman highly educated BE working in biggest It cos hit by hubby going to police getting such answers. They are forced to counsel stay with same man for years by laws only and by society and family etc in name of family and society etc


Anupama is sitting with ex hubby on jhula and dancing with him sitting together in puja with him thats all called emotional infidelity. If she does rarely its ok but everday she lands up at vanraj house saying its my mayka. Why cannot her adult kids who are all married g and meet her at kapadiya house or dance academy? Other than samar toshu pakhi never loved her ever why sudden love for mama because mama hubby is millionaire?


I have seen divorced and remarried couple india or abroad no ex souses sit and do puja together in any religion


Imagine if anuj had an ex wife and everyday he goes to her house saying shes my kids mother and laughs and cooks in her kitchen dances with her sits in puja will anupama be okk? Will she not get upset or jealous? Even a 6 year old will go jealous if mom gives 10 mins more attention to elder siblings here its ex hubby and his parents and current wife etc


No husband in USA, UK, Australia (even christian men) will tolerate what anupama is doing going to vanraj shah house everyday serving him tea cooking in his kitchen calling his house as mayka etc let me tell you that if you think all this is ok in USA/UK etc no even those men may act modern but they are possessive of wife when married.


Even most modern western men will start fighting with wife if this happens. I am surprised anuj is ok it shows he never truly loves anupama. Any man if he loves wife will be possessive and get jealous actually and fight with her if she gives attention to ex hubby. Because they are scared of losing wife if everyday she meets ex hubby feeling will develop its natural actually so thats why society has made rules that after divorce you do not meet ex often may be very rarely or never actually.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem


I have seen in USA too men going and leaving wife at her home and returning alone giving reasons that shes not speaking english properly shes not modern enough educated enough etc flimsy reasons (indian/asian men)

That is an indictment of the men, to abandon a wife for such trivial reason or any reason for that matter is abuse. Especially given how many women get conned and abused by NRI men for dowry money or something. Neither should we accept or expect men to behave like that. That doesn't make the women lesser beings.

And here anupama is going everyday to ex husband house so based on how asian men behave in gen i told that a husband would ask her to leave home if she cannot stop meeting her ex hubby. May be my way of writing was wrong but most indian men would behave like vanraj stopping her on door after coming late than like anuj silent and tolerating. Thats what i wanted to communicate. That indian hubby would behave 98% like vanraj than anuj kapadiay is behaving

If 98% Indian men would behave like Vanraj, then 100% Indian women should turn asexual/gay. People have to meet their exes for various reason especially when kids are involved. Anupama is codependent on her abusers but that does not mean that real women need to walk on eggshells because 98% men would behave like Vanraj. If Anuj is one of the rare 2% of men who do not behave like Vanraj, why is he being asked to change?


I do not mind anuj vanraj anupama doing threesome if they all agree to it thats their decision. But as far as i have observed Indian husbands only what i told would happen than what law or anyone says. And police also do not help or interfere in domestic abuse case unless it does not come in media or an NGO gets involved. Even if indian wife gos and says my hubby hit me they will say this is personal matter madam compromise why spoil your family life? etc i know woman highly educated BE working in biggest It cos hit by hubby going to police getting such answers. They are forced to counsel stay with same man for years by laws only and by society and family etc in name of family and society etc

Again an indictment of men and even of our executive system. Why is it being expected or accepted of all men to behave like this— even in fiction? So what choice does the woman have? What is the point of saying this? They should walk on eggshells because their husbands might be abusive? And just because women do not have as many avenues to report domestic violence doesn't mean that domestic violence magically turns into something else.


Anupama is sitting with ex hubby on jhula and dancing with him sitting together in puja with him thats all called emotional infidelity. If she does rarely its ok but everday she lands up at vanraj house saying its my mayka. Why cannot her adult kids who are all married g and meet her at kapadiya house or dance academy? Other than samar toshu pakhi never loved her ever why sudden love for mama because mama hubby is millionaire?

Bhai, even if she is doing emotional infidelity, who is denying that? That still doesn't justify the misogyny against her. ("She is not Bill Gates' daughter/ Women half his age would be available for Anuj") People's actions can be called out without being sexist.


I have seen divorced and remarried couple india or abroad no ex souses sit and do puja together in any religion


Imagine if anuj had an ex wife and everyday he goes to her house saying shes my kids mother and laughs and cooks in her kitchen dances with her sits in puja will anupama be okk? Will she not get upset or jealous? Even a 6 year old will go jealous if mom gives 10 mins more attention to elder siblings here its ex hubby and his parents and current wife etc

Imagine if Anuj had a child he had no legal rights over and abandoned his wife to live with the biological mother of the said child — for months at end?

No husband in USA, UK, Australia (even christian men) will tolerate what anupama is doing going to vanraj shah house everyday serving him tea cooking in his kitchen calling his house as mayka etc let me tell you that if you think all this is ok in USA/UK etc no even those men may act modern but they are possessive of wife when married.

USA and UK have among the highest divorce rates in the world. Step-families and co-parenting are wayyy more common there. And I wonder why you highlighted Christianity here? Christianity is not limited to the West, neither does it override cultural patterns? What was the point of bringing it up here?


Even most modern western men will start fighting with wife if this happens. I am surprised anuj is ok it shows he never truly loves anupama. Any man if he loves wife will be possessive and get jealous actually and fight with her if she gives attention to ex hubby. Because they are scared of losing wife if everyday she meets ex hubby feeling will develop its natural actually so thats why society has made rules that after divorce you do not meet ex often may be very rarely or never actually.

Neither is possessiveness a healthy thing — human beings are not possessions— nor has Anuj been a paragon of emotional fidelity that I would care about him. He was willing to divorce Anupamaa to acqueisce to Maya, and, then Anupamaa was supposed have utmost trust in Anuj's character lol.

You are still making generic sociological/morally prescriptive statements with zero stats.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: Blueeeee

You are still making generic sociological/morally prescriptive statements with zero stats.


I am saying this from my experience of observing ppl around


I do not need any stats for i know stats are always not correct or fudged or hidden etc


For example: Not even 1000 men in corporate have been jailed for sexual harassment in india does that mean there is no sexual harassment in companies. the actual no will be lakh times more but women have no braveness to compalin, or scared to lose jobs if complaint etc same is true of usa companies


https://www.forbesindia.com/article/take-one-big-story-of-the-day/rise-in-sexual-harassment-cases-in-indias-top-companies-shows-dichotomy/80721/1


During me too movement even hollywood lead heroines revealed that they faced sexual abuse but dare not tell in public or go to police so will indian women tell openly or complaint? So i can give you stats but they are all not real so of no use


USA and UK have among the highest divorce rates in the world. Step-families and co-parenting are wayyy more common there. And I wonder why you highlighted Christianity here? Christianity is not limited to the West, neither does it override cultural patterns? What was the point of bringing it up here?


In USA/UK there is less taboo to divorce in christians than christians in asia (its all depends on culture of that place)


In USA/Uk its ok to marry 4 times no one will judge a man or woman but can a woman marry 4 times in india is my question? She will be immediately labeled by socciety and bahishkar by society


If asia was a liberal non judgemental society like USA more divorces that USa would occur in asia and india actually i think


I know many whom want to leave their hubby just staying in fear of society and family etc as they are economically not independent


You must know only 20% woman have jobs in india rest are unemployed who do not get paid for jobs they do


https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/jobs-and-careers/story/female-labour-participation-declining-in-india-why-are-women-not-working-2391034-2023-06-09

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem


I am saying this from my experience of observing ppl around


I do not need any stats for i know stats are always not correct or fudged or hidden etc


For example: Not even 1000 men in corporate have been jailed for sexual harassment in india does that mean there is no sexual harassment in companies. the actual no will be lakh times more but women have no braveness to compalin, or scared to lose jobs if complaint etc same is true of usa companies


https://www.forbesindia.com/article/take-one-big-story-of-the-day/rise-in-sexual-harassment-cases-in-indias-top-companies-shows-dichotomy/80721/1


During me too movement even hollywood lead heroines revealed that they faced sexual abuse but dare not tell in public or go to police so will indian women tell openly or complaint? So i can give you stats but they are all not real so of no use


USA and UK have among the highest divorce rates in the world. Step-families and co-parenting are wayyy more common there. And I wonder why you highlighted Christianity here? Christianity is not limited to the West, neither does it override cultural patterns? What was the point of bringing it up here?


In USA/UK there is less taboo to divorce in christians than christians in asia (its all depends on culture of that place)


In USA/Uk its ok to marry 4 times no one will judge a man or woman but can a woman marry 4 times in india is my question? She will be immediately labeled by socciety and bahishkar by society


If asia was a liberal non judgemental society like USA more divorces that USa would occur in asia and india actually i think


I know many whom want to leave their hubby just staying in fear of society and family etc as they are economically not independent


You must know only 20% woman have jobs in india rest are unemployed who do not get paid for jobs they do


https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/jobs-and-careers/story/female-labour-participation-declining-in-india-why-are-women-not-working-2391034-2023-06-09

So, I mean what are you proposing Indian women should do?

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Posted: 1 years ago
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This is such a good compilation

Achhe khase bande ko ek saal ki shadi mein mental bana diya

Now he has just become another Anupama suffering with Stockholm Syndrome, he loves this toxic relationship, na nigal pa raha hai na ugal pa raha hai


This song must be the Divorce & break up party song of the year!

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