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Posted: 2 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: naaznin


So u r saying anuj is having fun by acting bechara 🤣

Arey yaar! U don't even understand jokes and sarcasm....🤦
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Posted: 2 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

Now coming to the running topic.

Disclaimer: I do NOT subscribe to violence, persuasion or any such activity regardless of who would be involved. Morality and things on the show do jot go together.


What has Anuj done that Anupama hasn't done already?


There were 2 arguments:

1. on Anupama staying in a house full of people etc. Where as Anuj is alone with Maaya.

2. Neglect being a basis for divorce.


For the first point:

If the argument were that Anuj stayed at Maaya's without anyone but a child, knowing her intention, then, would the same argument be relevant to judge

a. Anupama when she went to Mumbai on a business trip alone with Anuj (before marriage when she and everyone knew he liked her) or

b. when Kinjal went for her conference alone leaving a month old child behind. Or

c. Anuj when he went to the picnic with Maaya and Choti Anu or

d. Despite knowing Vanraj's intentions and confessions and Leela's subtle approval, her visiting Shah House in the absence of Kavya.


2. Neglect being a basis for divorce:

Well, there is enough evidence of Neglect (if nothing, Maaya could retrieve some videos) to prove negligence towards the marriage.

If anything, Anupama can file for divorce on the basis of deserting her.

Which, I think, (if Anuj doesn't do) she (Anupama) should. AfterALL, this is a hindrance to her Udaan. She took the moral highground to file for divorce immediately when the truth of Vanraj-Kavya came out and rightly so.


What r u saying

1. Anupama went with anuj for business trip. She wasn't aware of anuj's feelings n also she wasn't committed to anyone n was single. So it doesn't matter even if she n anuj would have gotten physical.

2. Kinjal went on business trip. She doesn't have any affair with her colleagues. As per this logic no working woman can travel ever.

3. Anuj went to picnic with many ppl but he should not have taken the walk alone. If Many parents going together then it would be ok.

4. Anupama doesn't go n spends time with vanraj alone. She is always shown sitting with family or talking to Kinjal or kavya or counseling her children. Anuj was living alone with maya. His case is like toshu's which baa n barkha too implied.

Anupama didn't promised to vanraj after his heartattack that they will be together like anuj did . She didn't come to live in his house for his health like anuj did.


All these things anupama did doesn't come under neglect in legal terms because court is not so emotional n court itself gives parents orders of providing maintenance n visitation to children.

Edited by naaznin - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Ashita5500

Arey yaar! U don't even understand jokes and sarcasm....🤦


U also didn't understood my sarcasm 🤣

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: naaznin

I did girl that's why I said so and unknowingly u agreed....😎😉


U also didn't understood my sarcasm 🤣

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Posted: 2 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: naaznin


What r u saying

1. Anupama went to anuj for business trip. She wasn't aware of anuj's feelings n also she wasn't committed to anyone n was single. So it doesn't matter even if she n anuj would have gotten physical.

Anupama knew that Anuj loved her. Infact still harbours feelings for her. From her side it was still friendship, but, he did confess to have feelings and she wanted to maintain friendship and both decided not to allow any of it to come in the way of their work.

Why are we implying that they would get physical in the first place, is my question? That is an extreme possibility.


2. Kinjal went on business trip. She doesn't have any affair with her colleagues. As per this logic no working woman can travel ever.

Exactly my point. Two people going single, found to be under a roof cannot be a basis of judgement of one's character.

Jis cheez par hamein malum na ho, upar nishkarsh kaise nikal sakte hain. Aise toh shadishuda insaan doosre shehar me kaam hi nahin kar payega. There is an element of trust in a relation, right?


3. Anuj went to picnic with many ppl but he should not have taken the walk alone. If Many parents going together then it would be ok.

Anupama having coffee with Vanraj without anyone around is ok? This happened atleast 2-3 times.

Aise toh ek ladka aur ladki kabhi akele dikhati hi nahin dene chahiye.

How can our barometers be different?



4. Anupama doesn't go n spends time with vanraj alone. She is always shown sitting with family or talking to Kinjal or kavya or counseling her children. Anuj was living alone with maya. His case is like toshu's which baa n barkha too implied.

Anupama didn't promised to vanraj after his heartattack that they will be together like anuj did . She didn't come to live in his house for his health like anuj did.

Again, these are conspiracy theories.

While to some degree, I am glad we have reached a point that even a man can be questioned off his morality and character when he is found alone under a roof with a woman, it is concerning that yeh nahin hona tha. Concluding that two people staying under a roof is, in itself, faulty.


Sorry, i may have missed dialogues, Did Anuj mention that he promised to stay with Maaya or that he was blackmailed or to take care of her?


All these things anupama did doesn't come under neglect in legal terms because court is not so emotional n court itself gives parents orders of providing maintenance n visitation to children.

May be you are speaking due to a background in law, and I can only state resources from the net and here is what I found:

Read: Irretrievable Breakdown Of Marriage

https://www.myadvo.in/blog/grounds-of-divorce-under-hindu-marriage-laws



Sorry, the point i am trying to drive is the questioning the morality/character of a person on the basis of the fact that 2 people are staying under one roof, one of whom seems to have feelings for the other.

Aise toh Anupama ko Paritosh ka khayal rakhne ke time par, Anuj aur Maaya ko Kapadia Mansion me chodna hi nahin chahiye tha akele.

(Ankush-Barkha toh kisi kaam se aate-jaate rahe hain, inke ghar me staff toh koi waise bhi nahin hain, Dimple bhi apne me rehti thi.)

Yeh jante hue bhi ki Maaya, Anuj ke liye feel karti hain uska phir se use Kapadia Mansion me nyota dena yeh kehte hue ki "Anuj ke liye hi sahi, tun aajaao". Iska kya matlab hua?????


Neither Anupama nor anyone for that matter knows what happened in Mumbai. Hell, none even bothered finding out about Anuj.

How on earth are they concluding stuff.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika


Sorry, the point i am trying to drive is the questioning the morality/character of a person on the basis of the fact that 2 people are staying under one roof, one of whom seems to have feelings for the other.

Aise toh Anupama ko Paritosh ka khayal rakhne ke time par, Anuj aur Maaya ko Kapadia Mansion me chodna hi nahin chahiye tha akele.

(Ankush-Barkha toh kisi kaam se aate-jaate rahe hain, inke ghar me staff toh koi waise bhi nahin hain, Dimple bhi apne me rehti thi.)

Yeh jante hue bhi ki Maaya, Anuj ke liye feel karti hain uska phir se use Kapadia Mansion me nyota dena yeh kehte hue ki "Anuj ke liye hi sahi, tun aajaao". Iska kya matlab hua?????


Neither Anupama nor anyone for that matter knows what happened in Mumbai. Hell, none even bothered finding out about Anuj.

How on earth are they concluding stuff.

When anupmaa went to Mumbai she didn't knew anuj's feelings. She left house after her character was questioned n then came to know about anuj's feelings when she was living in flat n paritosh did drama. Both were living together individually on their own flats.

Anupama vanraj Two person living together with so many ppl in house vs two person living together with no one in house is same ? anuj n maya living at KM was different as barkha, ankush n dimple were there n when anuj was blamed at that time barkha said she saw everything that anuj was innocent n maya was trying to be close to him. But now no body knows what could have happened between the two. This is how it makes the difference that there is no witness..Now only anupama's blind faith on anuj saves the relationship. Otherwise it's enough ground to be alleged to have cheated.

Anupama vanraj didn't went to a restaurant alone for coffee she was having coffee in house. And we saw how so many ppl eavesdrop their conversation. So there r many witnesses to what they talk about.. that's why everyone in the shah family knows about vanraj's motive.


Asking Maya to stay in KM after fiasco was also different because anupama too was living there with many others.

Anupmaa had talked to anuj on phone where he said he isn't coming back. He may have said under pressure but she directly talked to anuj..


Maya is saying to everyone anuj n her will be together forever implying anuj has promised her something.


Regarding that divorce act you quoted ..kindly read "desertion point"

The following 5 conditions must be present to constitute desertion. They must coexist to present a ground for divorce:


1. The factum of separation


2. Intention to desert


3. Desertion without any reasonable cause


4. Desertion without the consent of another party


5. The statutory period of two years must have run out before a petition is presented


It's what anuj did. He left the house n told.kanta to tell anupama that his chapter is closed.

Going to meet her children for 3-4 hours doesn't come under desertion.

Edited by naaznin - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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I go with option 2. The target audience for Anupama is other Anupamas.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: naaznin

When anupmaa went to Mumbai she didn't knew anuj's feelings. She left house after her character was questioned n then came to know about anuj's feelings when she was living in flat n paritosh did drama. Both were living together individually on their own flats.

To the point of her ignorance of Anuj's feeling (in addition to what is already mentioned).

Just saying:

https://youtu.be/CseqEOawbcM


Anupama vanraj Two person living together with so many ppl in house vs two person living together with no one in house is same ? anuj n maya living at KM was different as barkha, ankush n dimple were there n when anuj was blamed at that time barkha said she saw everything that anuj was innocent n maya was trying to be close to him. But now no body knows what could have happened between the two. This is how it makes the difference that there is no witness..Now only anupama's blind faith on anuj saves the relationship. Otherwise it's enough ground to be alleged to have cheated.

Anupama vanraj didn't went to a restaurant alone for coffee she was having coffee in house. And we saw how so many ppl eavesdrop their conversation. So there r many witnesses to what they talk about.. that's why everyone in the shah family knows about vanraj's motive.

Isn't trust the basis of a relation, anyway?

Relation toh sabke naak ke neeche Vanraj-Kavya ka bhi bana tha na?

Whatever you are saying are ALL good precautionary measures, nothing more.


Asking Maya to stay in KM after fiasco was also different because anupama too was living there with many others.

Anupmaa had talked to anuj on phone where he said he isn't coming back. He may have said under pressure but she directly talked to anuj..


Maya is saying to everyone anuj n her will be together forever implying anuj has promised her something.


Regarding that divorce act you quoted ..kindly read "desertion point"

The following 5 conditions must be present to constitute desertion. They must coexist to present a ground for divorce:


1. The factum of separation


2. Intention to desert


3. Desertion without any reasonable cause


4. Desertion without the consent of another party


5. The statutory period of two years must have run out before a petition is presented


It's what anuj did. He left the house n told.kanta to tell anupama that his chapter is closed.

Going to meet her children for 3-4 hours doesn't come under desertion.


Wasn't that exactly what I had me turned previously that both can file for divorce under different categories? Just that they won't file for one because that would be logical and Television does Not abide by logic.

Edited by Bodhianveshika - 2 years ago

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