Anupama Serial, Package of Social Message 😒😒😒 - Page 2

See is serial mein kabhi yeh nahi kaha gaya ki kavya useless hai ya rakhi useless hai just because they are working woman

Kavya ko अगर crictise kiya gaya because of psycho her behavior in earlier episode not because she is working woman

In same way rakhi is not crictise because she is working woman ki use khana banana aata, hai ki nahi she was crictise because uske liye har cheejh entertainment hoti thi

Kisi ne yeh nahi kaha ki anupama ko khana banata hai but rakhi aur kavya to bekaar unhe khaana banana, nahi aata,

At least viewers ne to aisa nahi bola ki kavya ans rakhi bekaar hai ki unhe khaana banana nahi aata, dekhi

I am telling shru ke at least 15 20 ke episodeb dekho

Usmw pakhi ke school mein food competition tha to pakhi ne vanraj se bola ki main apni mummy anupama ko apne school nahi le jaaongi kyonki mujhe apni mummy ko school mein le jaane mei mein embaras feel hoti hai kyonki mummy ko bus thepla banana aata hai

Aap kavya ko school mein meri mummy bana ke le aana, ww

Usi tarah toshu ne vanraj se kaha ki jub rakhi hamse milne aaye to mummy ko bilkul samne mut laana balki kavya ko mummy banana,

Toshu aur vanraj ne anupama ko bataya hi nahi tha, ki kinjal ki mother gh aar pe aane wali hai. . Anupama ko lpata, hi nahi tha ki kinjal ki mom rakhi घर पर आयी

Anupama us time school mein thi ( school mein job kaene ki permission bhi anupama ko bahut mushkil se mili thi ya se) k

To toshbaa vanraj pakhi kavya ko as mother rakhi ke saamne introduced kiya

Amippama agar vanraj ghar pe nahi tha to bhi nahi bana sakti thi kyonki ghar pe leela thi jo mostly anupama pur nazar telescope se rakhti thi

Vanrah baguut bura tha vanraj ne anupama ki itni insult ki anupama ko panic attack aatey they

अगर anupama kisi tarah apni marji se karne ki कोशिश karti थी vanraj to anupama ko to ghar se hi nikaal dete they

Thanks for the tag kiya! 🤗

First of all I would like to thank you for doing your bit towards educating the poor! 👍🏼Very noble gesture.⭐️About the show, Anupama is a big khichdi! Till the cooking competition and even the one pre Diwali episode where MaAn talk about getting sweets made by the women they were supposed to employ for the forgotten hotel ka forsaken restaurant, there were social messages given by the show. Back then I didn't mind Anupamas bhashans so much. But now it's all gone down the drain! Even when MaAn are alone she can't help jabber about desh ki aurat, desh ki beti jab ki betiyon aur aurton ko kya message de rahe hain ki ex sasural ko mayika bana lo aur asli maike ko bhool jao! The DV track was horrible and thereafter there was no going back. Now they keep hammering us with, what they believe, are social messages "middle class ki shaadi with dry cleaned clothes" and dadi ki shaadi"! The adoption message, though a good one, was wrongly timed and hence it lost its essence, IMO. About the incidents that you mentioned they are disturbing to say the least. It's like taking undue advantage of a child who cannot retaliate. This has more to do with the psychology of the parent/s rather than the education level. I hate it when parents beat their children to release their pent up frustration!

Originally posted by: ChirpyKiya10

My question is why do we expect from these serials. Cant we do anything as a good human being, not anything is in our hands?? There are many other issues other than this helpless housewife, rona dhona, the concept of 90's.

Well in this era majority of the people are not truly content/happy/at peace, whatever you call it. There can be plethora of reasons for that. So, they tend to find some escape mechanism through the series or movies. I can say for myself that I tend to get attached to fictional characters more than real people, so I do care when it gets butchered.

Originally posted by: ChirpyKiya10

In another incident which I witnessed myself from the terrace of my friend’s house, a mother was beating up her 12-13 yr daughter with a broom, hitting hard with fist, kicking- left no way to inflict pain–( animals ko bhi hum treat na kare kabhi aise). Seeing that, I was terrified and began to shiver. I came to know that this lady was a working woman, and her family was also nice.

The incidents that you mentioned: I have seen one character trait in many people are that the things they have suffered or gone through they want others to go through the same. I really don't know why? If someone knows the pain why would that person want others to go through the same? I had a classmate. Later his elder cousin joined the same organization as ours, he told me that my classmate was adopted. And the way his parents treat him is very wrong. They don't abuse him or anything but they have the controlling and dominating nature.

Another thing I have noticed among parents are they think that their child/children are investments/property. They believe they can do anything to them. They have every rights to decide about their life.

You are doing a great job. I sometimes visit old age homes or orphanage and donate my old belongings/buy some gifts for them. The one thing one old couple asked me was to give them some time. They do not want any gifts but they wanted me to give some of my time to them. I try to go every Friday but sometimes because of work I am not able to.

Originally posted by: ChirpyKiya10

I used to think the root cause of the problem is a lack of education. For more than 1 yr, I have been teaching a few students who can not afford tuition ( only this thing came to my mind, small contribution), go to a govt. school. But reading today’s news and recalling other incidents which I have discussed above make me realize that other than the education, environment, and upbringing also matters a lot.

Going to school, doing job or driving car does not make one educated. I have always believed one can be educated without getting a degree or knowing to read and write. The root cause as you mentioned is the environment and upbringing. Also, willingness to change and keeping a open point of view is very important. Nowadays everyone has their own views formed about everything. Unless people are willing to change nothing is gonna change.

I follow a simple mantra: DONT LOOK UP TO ANYONE, DONT LOOK DOWN ON ANYONE. SEE PEOPLE AS THEY ARE.

Sam! Thank you so much for posting this (and tagging me in it too).

I was not going to write anything for a while in the Forum coz am about to travel for a couple of weeks, that too, in non-internet accessible areas...

But what you wrote about is so close to my heart!!!

For years and years I have worked in this field: of child care, street and working children, and, yes, women's empowerment (esp. the girl-child.)

So, Anupama was a special serial to me - esp., of course, the initial MaAn journey (that's when I started watching and joined this Forum).

Leaving aside character building, murdering, or whitewashing, the adoption track was a good one - and with our comments, the makers rolled it up and withdrew into their caves in that respect (😃).

Even the current track is interesting, given that in essence it's pitting the innocence and love of one party against the mischief, greed, and kharabness of the other party (though the cousin's reactions fortunately water down the meanness of the bhabhi).

But I'm off track 😊 - the points you raised are so heartfelt - and so good you brought them here, ChirpySam. This Forum is not only for trolling, praising (yes, yes, why not) or writing great drabbles and other fan(tastic) stories but certainly also for sharing and making further aware about such deeply rooted problems.

Education, environment, society - it all boils down to an individual's personal choice. If we want to change the world, begin with yourself, kind of thing. If as an individual one can gather others with the same ideals, then as a group one CAN bring about changes.

Look at our programmes for micro-finance, for instance, where very poor women with just a simple loan are able to improve their livelihoods and stand on their own feet. Nay, who often are in a position to get their children good education and pay off debts. You know, the return payment of loans in such Self-Help Groups is about 90% in the first phase!!

(Compare it to the greedy biggie companies who often enough default on their repayments...)

I think we must act whenever we see a case of child abuse - if action is within our reach.

Thanks, again, Sammy, for bringing this up. May this be the beginning of more and deeper exchanges about all that concerns us in this changing world.

Hah, see where a serial like Anupama can take us 🤗

With this I say bye to folks, friends, Forumwaasis for now, as I shall retreat into the bush for a couple of weeks 😆

Kavya bhi divocee hai uska pehla husband anirudh tha.

Kavya और anirudh ki marriage relationship 8 , 9 year tuk rahi hai

Though anirudh kahi bahar out of city kaam karta और hafte mein 2din apni wife kavya ke pass rehta tha

और जहाँ पुर kavya rehti thi woh flat anirudh और kavya ke naam dono tha

Anirudh flat ki maintaince deta tha. Anirudh bhi kaam karta tha

Aur usnne vanraj ki tarah kavya pur restrictions nahi lagaye they

Anirudh ne kavya ko freedom de rakhi thi

Kavya ke pass laptops dikhaya woh aaram. Se online electricity bill jama bill jama, kiya hai usne online taxi bulwa ke woh office jaati thi

Woh kabhi kabhi online food order bhi karti thi

To kavya aur rakhi ko. Useless nahi dikhaya bus unke pass लेटेस्ट facilities rahi plus unke husband bhi supportive rahe isliye unke ghar ke kaam karne mein bshut problem nahi hua unki life comparitevly easy dikhaya plus in logon ko joint family bhi nahi dikhaya. Nuclear family koi bhi apni marji se soya khaya, jo man mein asya kahin bhi mile kabhi bhi gaye.

But anupama ke pass koi online facilities nahi thi use saare kaam manualy kRne padte vanraj aur leela to anupama ki kaam jara bhi help nahi karte they ulta her bematalsb baat pe anupama pur blame karte they uske bitter word bolte they ki yeh sub tumhari wajah se hua hai

To. Anupama life bahut difficult dikhayi gayi hai kyonki uska husband ex husband supportive nahi tha plus uske mayke wale bhi financial strong nahi thi jo anupama ko. सपोर्ट कर सके

Originally posted by: surabhi01

Kavya bhi divocee hai uska pehla husband anirudh tha.

Kavya और anirudh ki marriage relationship 8 , 9 year tuk rahi hai

Though anirudh kahi bahar out of city kaam karta और hafte mein 2din apni wife kavya ke pass rehta tha

और जहाँ पुर kavya rehti thi woh flat anirudh और kavya ke naam dono tha

Anirudh flat ki maintaince deta tha. Anirudh bhi kaam karta tha

Aur usnne vanraj ki tarah kavya pur restrictions nahi lagaye they

Anirudh ne kavya ko freedom de rakhi thi

Kavya ke pass laptops dikhaya woh aaram. Se online electricity bill jama bill jama, kiya hai usne online taxi bulwa ke woh office jaati thi

Woh kabhi kabhi online food order bhi karti thi

To kavya aur rakhi ko. Useless nahi dikhaya bus unke pass लेटेस्ट facilities rahi plus unke husband bhi supportive rahe isliye unke ghar ke kaam karne mein bshut problem nahi hua unki life comparitevly easy dikhaya plus in logon ko joint family bhi nahi dikhaya. Nuclear family koi bhi apni marji se soya khaya, jo man mein asya kahin bhi mile kabhi bhi gaye.

But anupama ke pass koi online facilities nahi thi use saare kaam manualy kRne padte vanraj aur leela to anupama ki kaam jara bhi help nahi karte they ulta her bematalsb baat pe anupama pur blame karte they uske bitter word bolte they ki yeh sub tumhari wajah se hua hai

To. Anupama life bahut difficult dikhayi gayi hai kyonki uska husband ex husband supportive nahi tha plus uske mayke wale bhi financial strong nahi thi jo anupama ko. सपोर्ट कर सके

I agree with ur each point and husband ka supportive hona hi must.

But my perspective is diff; I relate everything to reality.

You agree jab bills online submit hote hai toh kaun sa office aaj manually accept kar raha hai.

Anupama kaun si jagah bill submit karne jaati thi. pakhi ka school tak toh usne dekha nahi tha.

bank ki transactions on line hoti hai, toh kaun sa draft banane , withdraw karane , deposit karne bank jaati hai.

Aise kaam toh V ke bharose h honge na

Anu ke pass latest facility nahi thi. woh chakki par aata peesti thi ya haath se juice nikalti thi. silbatate par aroma chatni peesna uska shauk hai toh uski marji.

Nuclear vs joint-family is debatable. both have their pros and cons. but def put my pov. Anu ka pati, khud ke 3 bacche + 2 extra ( acc to the concept of joint family; parents are not part of family bcoz they are husbands parents). na nanad, no jeth jethani, no devar . I have a ques a family with only one parent( FIL or MIL ) that is joint or nuclear family.

Nuclear faamily- aram se sona, uthna, khana

If one is working, before going to office, get kids ready, leaving kids to either day-boarding or creche, and if got late, always in guilt.

Cars and taxis are now affordable, otherwise carry your bag, kid's bag and kid in your lap jab tak you dont get auto.

If u have to go for one kid's activity, in school......today so many reasons, ( if 2 kids) carry other kids also in scorching heat or cold winter. sote hue 2 yr ke bacche ko ghar par chorna n ph on rakhna) or video calling on rakhna.

If you are ill, nobody is there to give u or your kid water. ( this food delivery or home delivery has started now, 2-3 yrs back) . husband how loving or supportive, can't sit at your side always. Most of the time, husbands are on tour for jobs for days, sometimes months.

At night, MCB down, AC not working, handle yourself with a small kid. do matha pacchi with an electrician

Early morning, you have to go somewhere, who will switch on the motor.. no water. One more stress, how will manage without water.

In PTM or urgent meeting, you get a call, madam courier hai ya milkman.

you can afford maids, but no timings match with maids.

...............

The list is very long. the only thing is that the grass on the other side always looks greener. Some people spent time complaining only and some people feel proud that they can independently handle these things and are giving their best to their family. ( family for me, I, my husband, kids, inlaws, husband's siblings, my parents, my siblings)

I thought of discussing my viewpoint with all of you in a single post as we think alike.

First of all, Thanks to everyone for reading this post, exchange your views, and clap👏 for everyone for contributing to society on their own way and thinking in that direction. . How come all of you are so wise, knowledgeable, and involved in noble deeds so early. Mera abhi takk bachpana nahii gaya.😆

Smitha: 1 must be solved with her getting help. There are many methods –medical, philosophical etc.

1. I feel most people don’t accept that they have some problem with them. Anger and stress issues are very normal things for people. Until and unless, some major problem, people don’t take medical help.

2. In India, people have the right to scold or slap their kids. If rules are strict here like in other countries in every case (like throwing garbage, misbehaving with girls) then half (in fact 3/4/) of the battle would have won.

Sweet_Tania: There are so many ways to teachchild in positive manner.

Absolutely,

But first of all, I feel it happens mostly with a girl child. Nowadays, Men love their daughters but women are biased against the girl children. Even today, we listen words from many women- agle ghar jaana hai, kaam toh aana chahiye.

Even I heard these lines from my bua, my uncle bcoz I was bzy in studies, less interested in household chores.But my mom who is only 12 the pass, never treated us different from my brothers. My mom is from a very conservative family, she was not permitted to study further despite being good at studies. That’s why she wanted her daughters to study and be independent. It’s not only the education, the mindset of people that matters.

T4Thaanafan : For years and years I have worked in this field: of child care, street and working children, and, yes, women's empowerment (esp. the girl-child.)

Education,environment, society - it all boils down to an individual's personal choice. If we want to change the world, begin with yourself, kind of thing. If as an individual one can gather others with the same ideals, then as a group one CANbring about changes.

It's like taking undueadvantage of a child who cannot retaliate. This has more to do with thepsychology of the parent/s rather than the education level.

No doubt about it.

On this, I want to share my experience with You.

I am sincere, punctual and my maths like 100 0n 100. As a parent, I also expected the same thing from my daughter. But I am fortunate that I realized very soon that being topper should not be the aim. For me, my child’ happiness, health and she enjoys her childhood- are important.

Its bcoz we ( My friends and I) analyze everything, read good books, and discuss with each other. You never know, which simple line, an event can change you, your perspective.

In a workshop, facilitator said, “ jab aap office mei hoteho, and boss par aap ko gussa aata hai, toh kya aap uspar haath utha dete ho-nahi. Bcoz you know the consequences, similarly you will never dare to hit a person stronger than you. Then why a small child. Bcoz he is weaker than you and will not retaliate.

Those words are imprinted in my mind and heart.

One more thing, I have never ever used words like dumbo, akal nahi hai,with any one

Even kids who come to me for clarifying doubts, I always use the word baache tum toh bahut intelligent ho. Really, it works.

Har parent at least, educated parent ko yeh samjhana hoga ki pehle tumhe khud ko change karne ki jaroorat hai.

Strancho: Also, willingness tochange and keeping a open point of view is very important. Nowadays everyonehas their own views formed about everything. Unless people are willing tochange nothing is gonna change.

I follow a simplemantra: DONT LOOK UP TO ANYONE, DONT LOOK DOWNON ANYONE. SEE PEOPLE AS THEY ARE.

You are right !!

Change is not always about big achievements, change is the way you think, you talk, and you act every day in your life. It can create a ripple effect, maybe slowly but for sure, will work.

My Mantra of life is :1. Introspect yourself, Analyse your mistake, and correct it, if you can, otherwise promise yourself, that you will not commit that mistake again. 2. Smile and make others smile.

Originally posted by: ChirpyKiya10

Hi Surabhi,

I totally agree and respect your pov.

Vanraj ka toh chor hi do, uss jaise insaan ko punishment milni hi chahiye. but makers ne aisa kuch bhi nahi dikhaya, aapko nahi lagta aisa nahi karke woh V jaise logo ko badawa de rahe ha.

Abhi jo yeh dikha rahe hai lady saara kaam kar rahi hai .. husband ko pooche bina bahar nahi nikalti ha, yeh I think 90 se bhi pehle ka concept hota hoga. aaj ki house wife ke saath bhi husband kaam karte hai, bacche bhi sambhalte hai, Even kids ki himmat bhi nahi hai apni mummy se badtammezi kar jaaye. haan aaj ki generation hai woh argument karti hoi toh maa house wife ho ya working usse koi farak nahi padta .

Now my point is ki ek ko mahan dikhane ke chakar mei baaki women ko toh dumb mat dikhao plz. It's not about language, it's not about qualification, Tell me one thing jo working woman hai, for once working woman ko bhi chor do, kya ek qualified ladki ko khana banana nahi aata, ghar ka kaam woh nahi karti. why to show ki Anu ke alawa kisi ko kuch nahi aata?? Nahi bhi aata toh iska matlab sab useless hai. kavya akeli rehti thi, uske electricity bill, ph bill, khana, safai toh uska koi kaam nahi hota tha. shah house mei aise dikhaya hai, usee jaise usne paani ka glass bhi nahi uthaya. Job hi nahi mil rahi usko. Woh toh bilkul hi bekaar hai. RD ko jaise pata hi nahi, kuch bhi ghar ke kaam kya hote hai.

Let me give you an example, Harsha khullar, a famous Gyaneocologist of Gangaram hospital. She has been working for 40 yrs in the medical field. you know woh 24* 7 ph par rehti hai,kab hospital aana padta hai nahi pata. Once she said to me," Sam, I have taken 2 months' leave only after my delivery. Woh bhi ghar jaa Kar kaam bhi karti thi.. In her entire career, she went on holidays for 10 days only I got to know this, when I met her few yrs back. Woh apne ghar par time spend nahi kar paayi toh woh ek acchi maa nahi hai ya achhi patni nahi hai, acchi DIL bilkul bhi nahi hai. I have seen ladies, literally crying in front of her for child; kitne logo ko unhone maa banne ki khushi di hai. Out of the way jaa kar jo bhi help kar sakti thi, unhone ki hai like adoption,. apne 1-1 patient ke liye kitni dedicated hai, I cant tell u. itna renowned and paisa hone ke baad bhi unhone apni life enjoy nahi ki hai.

Ok leave this example, yeh toh qualified and working lady ki baat thi

Apt ke bahar construction work chal raha, ek majdoor lady chote se baache ke saath waha kaam kar rahi hai 49 deg temp mei. ek chulha bhi hai, dikhta hai khana bhi banati hai, bacche ko bhi saath saath dekh rahi hai. yeh working hai ya non- working, kya yeh kaam karna ambition hai ?? yeh lady ke paas toh thaang ke kapde bhi nahi hai. life enjoy karna toh bhool hi jao.

Anupama to fictional character hai. Mujhe makers se complaint hai. Maa chahe educated ho uneducated ho, working ho ya nonworking, sab apne ghar ka apne tarike se khayal rakhti hai.

Aur yeh jo dikhaye hai toshu, pakhi nikamme.. yeh toh aajkal bilkul bhi nahi hai. kids bahut independent hai. housewives bhi ghar par nahi baithti poora time, gym, yoga classes, kitty party, they have their social life and mere yahan toh har bacche, chahe ladka ho ya ladki, cooking, baking sab aata hai. apni coffee, milkshake, sandwich toh woh khud hi banate hai.

Aaj ki post meri , exactly anupama ko lekar nahi thi, kuch doosre issues, jinki taraf koi dekhta bhi nahi hai, unko lekar thi.

And yess maine shuru ke episodes dekhe hai, really they were good, story line was also nice. Thats vy we love this serial and do so much matha pacchi. but limit se jaada kuch bhi dikhaye, chahe love , hatred, harassment and Maa jaap not acceptable

Sorry, not meant to offend anybody.

I understand your pov but its a daily soap and it has different characters. Every character cant be shown as idealistic or perfect. Positivity dikhani chahiye but unko daily soap chalana hai agar har situation mein perfect conditions mein har character ko positively behave karta dikhayenge to drama kaha se ayega.

Kavya padhi likhi hai and smart hai aur shayad hi aisi koi aurat hogi jisko ghar ka koi bhi kaam na karna aata ho. job wali auraton ko bhi ghar ke basic kaam aate hain but yahi to makers dikhana chahte hain ki kavya apne qualifications ke ghamand mein ghar ka koi kaam karna jaruri nahi samajhti. Wo yeh nahi samajhti ke ghar ka kaam karne se independent bante hain naukrani nahi. yahi uski negativity hai jo shayad kisi din usko realize hogi...aur ab thodi thodi hone bhi lagi hai...yahi to makers dikhana chahte hain agar shuru se hi kavya ko achha perfect aurat dikhaya hota toh usse related sare tracks bante hi kaise?

barkha bhabhi jaisi auratein jo sab kuch lutaa dene ke baad bhi apna lifestyle nahi chhod paati, udhar leke jee lenge, manipulation karke dusre ka business hatiya lenge lekin akad aur upper class lifestyle nahi chhodenge....aisa koi nahi hota...paisa jaye to akal bhi thikane aa hi jaati hai. lekin barkha ko aisa imperfect nahi dikhayenge to usse related tracks aage kaise badhenge...anupama usko kaise apni galti ka ahsaas dilayegi?

aur vanraj ke sath bura hua to hai. Haan legally kuch nahi hua. usne jo kiya wo crime against women mein aata hai sab but sirf kanuni sazaa chhodkar baki to uske karm aa hi gaye uske samne. aaj ke episode mein pakhi ka dialogue hi sabit karta hai jab usne kaha pehle aapko mummy ko kahi le jane mein sharm aati thi ab mummy ko aap par hum sab par middle class hone ke karan sharam ayegi. bachhe bol chuke ki vanraj loser hai, biwi divorce paper muh pe maar chuki, berojgar ho gaya, uski frustration nikalne ki punching bag anupama ghar chhodkar chali gayi aur har lihaaz se usse behtar insaan ke sath ek aish o aram ki life jee rahi hai...yahi to vanraj ke karmo ka phal hai. kam hai...lekin hai to sahi.