"Stupid Ppl are more Dangerous than Evil ones coz Evil can be fought🤐 - Page 17

Originally posted by: sunshine36

Hey guys been wanting to write a brief post but kept going back and forth contemplating and finally gave in coz I know I can speak my mind with you guys🤗

We all can, that's the best thing ❤️

Wokay here goes, First things first!! This whole fury against makers for calling Anuj an abuser is silly!(no offense intended). From the plethora of tweets and posts directed towards this, I find its imp we step back and have a perspective like you would watch a play. There are 3 core protagonists this track is revolving around right now with 1 antagonist hell bent on making their lives a nightmare. To be clear, makers did not label Anuj as an abuser by his actions or conflicts but made Vanraj call him that coz thats exactly his intent. He is a MANIPULATOR. There are no right, wrong, virtues and values for them. All they do is gaslight and taint a picture to you that is NOT REAL!! Author Omar Johnson infact calls Manipulation an art!! Its not easy to make you accept a truth that doesnt exist😶. Today he succeeded in doing so. Before we revolt and rip apart a dialogue, lets understand the context in which it was placed! Anu did not call him Abuser, samar, Mukku, toshu, Baa, K did not call him abuser. VANRAJ did!! I dont see any surprise element there. For pete's sake he manipulated his wife of 25 yrs and mother of his child then who is Anuj???

Agreed, Vanraj calling Anuj abuser is totally in line with his character. All i want is next week Mukku telling back Vanraj, who is the real abuser - her brother or her Raj.

Next, Mukku's unfair demand/blame on Anuj and our reaction to her. Today post the epi we all were running on emotions coz we hate to see Anuj hurt and hate it more when someone intentionally hurts him. I get it and I include myself in this too. First thing in the am wen you watch this, it can get intense but that doesnt mean the story or plot is bad or crappy. Vanika was crappy! Not this! The night Mukku was introduced as Anuj's sis and V's partner, we all knew we would see this day so am not at all shocked or surprised by the turn of events infact am impressed how makers scrapped their previous tracks to seamlessly make way for this vidhwans. Mukku is a DV survivor, her mental state is tender, raw and highly impressionable..lets also know that she never asked Anuj to leave Anu. She was upset that even for namesake or even if its to pacify, he dint immediately say 'he will'. Mukku is a mere CATALYST/PUPPET to the real master mind here. She has been brain washed to believe that Anuj doesnt care for her and with the circumstances right in front of her she was forced to incline towards believing V. So I dont blame Mukku at all. She is annoying, naive and to a certain extent stupid but she is NOT BAD!!

Agreed, somehow despite everything i don't blame Mukku. Her character is never defined well, so really don't know what to expect and what not..

The last point: Anu maintaining silence and not using the voice clips. Okay lets pls remind ourselves that is not Money heist or Crime patrol😂😂.this is a drama fiction and lets think within the parameters of that. Besides Anu staying true to charac there is also one more reason I feel the Voice notes wouldnt have any impact on Mukku. Anuj will deffo believe it but there is no need to provide him with the notes as Anuj already knows V is an A grade kameena. So the only person who needs to react is Mukku but the issue is Mukku was already sea deep with trust for her Raj. How many times in our lives we have all had toxic bf's or friends and our moms will immediately ask us to stay away from them but we pay no heed to it and later turns out mama bear was right. Today when I turn back, am like what was I thinking but back then you are caught in that toxic loop. That is the power of mind and emotional entanglement. Mukku now feels V is her well wisher and MaAn are those nagging parents who dont understand her but the tide wil change and very soon she will painfully learn his circus act. Mukku doesnt like to be told what to do so she needs to burn, scar and slash to not touch the hot vessel again. This track is perfect for that.

Voice clips, are stupidity, honestly he didn't said much. Only thing, i don't like is Anu keeping it from Anuj. And let's not forget this is 2nd time for Mukku, this time around she should have been careful. Mystery till date is, how Mukku and Vanraj met, who contacted whom first? too many secrets under wraps here.

One last teeny meeny point..this is a long running show..they cannot show romance, happy, candy floss moments all the time. MaAn would have lost all their essence long back if we saw them 20 mins on screen even for 10 days at a stretch. Cribbing for every single track and dialogue is not done. We wanted V as Villain so let him do that with full shiddhat..A lot has been discussed about the precap as well. Anuj is either giving it to M or Anu. With all the posts and analysis even I am tipping my scales to Anu coz thats the only way to hit Vanraj's ego! The show was always about Anu vs Vanraj and this theme will continue in or some or other form in the show! Anuj is a smart man and he will do what is needed for M to learn her lesson. Honestly am very excited for upcoming. Instead of getting emotionally involved, lets enjoy this as a piece of story telling and you will find all characters being honest to their sketch.

Agreed, long show too much romance gets boring. I wont mind Anu vs Vanraj if it was real equals. If Anu was not used repititively to whitewash V. If Anu had not said 'wo ghatiya nahi hai', if Anu had been on alert on day 1 or Anu didn't had that coffee chat, things would have been different.... Anu comes as weak, stupid, delusional, regressive. Let's not blindly love or support Anu just because she is FL.

Someone said, Mukku and Anuj did mistake by sharing their secrets with Vanraj... Anu too is guilty on same charge, she told about her love for Anuj to Vanraj first, even took his validation in hospital ... And now Vanraj is using that to break Anu.

And those of you who are calling this plot toxic, am actually happy for u guys in a way coz you havent experienced toxicity in your life in a full blown gasket and gods grace let it stay that way😇💫🙏 This plot is anything but toxic .it has lot of life lessons in them. So be inspired not influenced!!🙌 Bad winning over good is another statement I kept saying on twitter. I dont mean to sound philosiphical but good and bad are 2 sides of the same coin. They complement each other. You know light coz you have seen and experienced darkness, you know how precious love and happiness are coz you have seen pain and misery. For Vanraj, what he is doing is right so accord to him he is not evil. Rather than good and evil lets just say every action, word and thought has a consequence to it and Vanraj will face them in due time. Evil is based on greed and since its rooted on something outside of you, you take and take and take until left with nothing whereas Goodness is based on love. Its rooted within you. It is not loud, dramatic or demanding yet very profound and only thing that will sustain. This is why Anu doesnt react to everything yet when time comes she will stand strong and mighty and Vanraj will crumble🙂 and Kanhaji ke kripa se will witness that day soon🧿🧿🧿

Agree, good and bad are two sides of same coin. So, we need them in right mix.. Currently its Strong Negative and Weak Positive, it's skewed balance. Hence its become too much Negative. Personally, for me its not Vanika cringe only, its the repititive from Divorce, Kavya Anu in same house, Partnership, Bhumi Pujan, Character Assassination and all... its the pile up which is bothering me.. Everytime Anu has lost in some way and kept on forgiving or ignoring Vanraj..

Sorry for the long post peeps!! And dint intend to hurt anyone. If you felt so, apologies🤧🤧

Love dear 🤗 Gave me also a chance to express my thoughts, this is best. 🤗

Hey Sunny 🤗

Glad to read your thoughts yet again ❤️

Some of my thoughts inline.

Ek cheez hum bhul rahe hain business anuj ke naam se chalta hain his market value woh nahi rahega to panic nahi aah jayega projects main and investors ko if they show sensible business fight rather than playing with people emotions

Originally posted by: Km181

Hey Sunny 🤗

Glad to read your thoughts yet again ❤️

Some of my thoughts inline.

Hey dear thanks a lot for hearing me out and for the comments. I completely understand your perspective and also agree to your point on needing balance on the neg and positive aspects..sometimes it can get overwhelming especially when you watch it first thing in the morning! Unfortunately I feel we are in for more draining episodes in the upcoming week. We are in the eye of the storm so lets just hang in there for Anuj's decision and see how this track is led to its finale🤗🤗

Both sunshine post and KM reply / observation are good. I just want to add one angle.... on why Anupama was silent.... She has undergone worst abuse by her own children... both Pakki and Toshu ... both of them spoke and did what any child will not do to the mother.... Inspite of that Anupama as mother could forgive them when they realised their mistake and asked for pardon. Compared to such instance what Mukku said or did to Anuj is not even a fraction ..... As Anu is used to such Tamasha and most of the time tolerate them silently and hopes that time will heal. She never reacts instantly and generally give a long rope. She was keeping quite in order not to precipitate matter further that would bring clash between Brother / sister. So far Vanraj has not left any solid proof of his intent so that Mukku can realise. He keeps everything in his mind and act outside . But no one can keep on do things secretly .... somwwhere a slip will happen.... to make Mukku and Baa realise what V is in real.

Originally posted by: sunshine36

Hey guys been wanting to write a brief post but kept going back and forth contemplating and finally gave in coz I know I can speak my mind with you guys🤗

Wokay here goes, First things first!! This whole fury against makers for calling Anuj an abuser is silly!(no offense intended). From the plethora of tweets and posts directed towards this, I find its imp we step back and have a perspective like you would watch a play. There are 3 core protagonists this track is revolving around right now with 1 antagonist hell bent on making their lives a nightmare. To be clear, makers did not label Anuj as an abuser by his actions or conflicts but made Vanraj call him that coz thats exactly his intent. He is a MANIPULATOR. There are no right, wrong, virtues and values for them. All they do is gaslight and taint a picture to you that is NOT REAL!! Author Omar Johnson infact calls Manipulation an art!! Its not easy to make you accept a truth that doesnt exist😶. Today he succeeded in doing so. Before we revolt and rip apart a dialogue, lets understand the context in which it was placed! Anu did not call him Abuser, samar, Mukku, toshu, Baa, K did not call him abuser. VANRAJ did!! I dont see any surprise element there. For pete's sake he manipulated his wife of 25 yrs and mother of his child then who is Anuj???

Next, Mukku's unfair demand/blame on Anuj and our reaction to her. Today post the epi we all were running on emotions coz we hate to see Anuj hurt and hate it more when someone intentionally hurts him. I get it and I include myself in this too. First thing in the am wen you watch this, it can get intense but that doesnt mean the story or plot is bad or crappy. Vanika was crappy! Not this! The night Mukku was introduced as Anuj's sis and V's partner, we all knew we would see this day so am not at all shocked or surprised by the turn of events infact am impressed how makers scrapped their previous tracks to seamlessly make way for this vidhwans. Mukku is a DV survivor, her mental state is tender, raw and highly impressionable..lets also know that she never asked Anuj to leave Anu. She was upset that even for namesake or even if its to pacify, he dint immediately say 'he will'. Mukku is a mere CATALYST/PUPPET to the real master mind here. She has been brain washed to believe that Anuj doesnt care for her and with the circumstances right in front of her she was forced to incline towards believing V. So I dont blame Mukku at all. She is annoying, naive and to a certain extent stupid but she is NOT BAD!!

The last point: Anu maintaining silence and not using the voice clips. Okay lets pls remind ourselves that is not Money heist or Crime patrol😂😂.this is a drama fiction and lets think within the parameters of that. Besides Anu staying true to charac there is also one more reason I feel the Voice notes wouldnt have any impact on Mukku. Anuj will deffo believe it but there is no need to provide him with the notes as Anuj already knows V is an A grade kameena. So the only person who needs to react is Mukku but the issue is Mukku was already sea deep with trust for her Raj. How many times in our lives we have all had toxic bf's or friends and our moms will immediately ask us to stay away from them but we pay no heed to it and later turns out mama bear was right. Today when I turn back, am like what was I thinking but back then you are caught in that toxic loop. That is the power of mind and emotional entanglement. Mukku now feels V is her well wisher and MaAn are those nagging parents who dont understand her but the tide wil change and very soon she will painfully learn his circus act. Mukku doesnt like to be told what to do so she needs to burn, scar and slash to not touch the hot vessel again. This track is perfect for that.

One last teeny meeny point..this is a long running show..they cannot show romance, happy, candy floss moments all the time. MaAn would have lost all their essence long back if we saw them 20 mins on screen even for 10 days at a stretch. Cribbing for every single track and dialogue is not done. We wanted V as Villain so let him do that with full shiddhat..A lot has been discussed about the precap as well. Anuj is either giving it to M or Anu. With all the posts and analysis even I am tipping my scales to Anu coz thats the only way to hit Vanraj's ego! The show was always about Anu vs Vanraj and this theme will continue in or some or other form in the show! Anuj is a smart man and he will do what is needed for M to learn her lesson. Honestly am very excited for upcoming. Instead of getting emotionally involved, lets enjoy this as a piece of story telling and you will find all characters being honest to their sketch.

And those of you who are calling this plot toxic, am actually happy for u guys in a way coz you havent experienced toxicity in your life in a full blown gasket and gods grace let it stay that way😇💫🙏 This plot is anything but toxic .it has lot of life lessons in them. So be inspired not influenced!!🙌 Bad winning over good is another statement I kept saying on twitter. I dont mean to sound philosiphical but good and bad are 2 sides of the same coin. They complement each other. You know light coz you have seen and experienced darkness, you know how precious love and happiness are coz you have seen pain and misery. For Vanraj, what he is doing is right so accord to him he is not evil. Rather than good and evil lets just say every action, word and thought has a consequence to it and Vanraj will face them in due time. Evil is based on greed and since its rooted on something outside of you, you take and take and take until left with nothing whereas Goodness is based on love. Its rooted within you. It is not loud, dramatic or demanding yet very profound and only thing that will sustain. This is why Anu doesnt react to everything yet when time comes she will stand strong and mighty and Vanraj will crumble🙂 and Kanhaji ke kripa se will witness that day soon🧿🧿🧿

Sorry for the long post peeps!! And dint intend to hurt anyone. If you felt so, apologies🤧🤧

I agree with you

But for the bold I would like to say that there were situations in the show which kind of showed our past in it.

And about toxicity I agree I have seen worse and living it in my life. Like I said when you have a Vanraj in your family you would automatically relate to the characters but the relation is different

And I do agree and I did say earlier that if I see Anupama's struggle its very small and almost nothing compared to what I and people like me struggle with especially when you see all the doors closed with no way out because of the thing that you waited for eternity.

But still there is a lot of similarity with my story and hers. I did say once before that my story can give a good competition to this show

And please don't be sorry. It felt so good to read your perspective.

And I'm sorry if I hurt anyone in this post

Originally posted by: RainFire125

hahaha, i agree Mini. i just bought this point to say that our mytho itself is a prime example of evil winning!!! I love to discuss mytho and infact i dont like Yudhi at all!! feel free anytime to call me out and discuss our mytho. Krishna is a political King and ever nuances of politics can be learnt from him and his acts. Karma paid or made people pay, that's a diff thing, but here also i have a ques that why does karma come early for good people and a way little late for bad people???? hahaha

This much toxicity and many people will stop watching. I dont blame anyone here at all!!🤗

Bold- cant answer properly but I would say that this have been happening since a very long time.

In Islam it says that God gives you a chance all the time to choose the right path until you reach that very end like crossing the last boundary of the bad and once you do cross that then there is no return for some karma gets done in lifetime and for some its in the aftermath (after death)

There was a famous personality who was cruel to no end got his karma during his lifetime and after his death too

And sorry if i hurt anyone

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Mere ko isse sunke bhi vanraj hi yaad aah raha 🤣 meri aaj satki hui hain 🤣

Originally posted by: sunshine36

Hey dear thanks a lot for hearing me out and for the comments. I completely understand your perspective and also agree to your point on needing balance on the neg and positive aspects..sometimes it can get overwhelming especially when you watch it first thing in the morning! Unfortunately I feel we are in for more draining episodes in the upcoming week. We are in the eye of the storm so lets just hang in there for Anuj's decision and see how this track is led to its finale🤗🤗

Bold - Agree. watched this too first in the morning then thought to watch another show to balance but the episode was bad too and got my mood in a very bad state but then thought to watch Sarabhai and got it balanced