"Stupid Ppl are more Dangerous than Evil ones coz Evil can be fought🤐 - Page 14

Originally posted by: sunshine36

Hey guys been wanting to write a brief post but kept going back and forth contemplating and finally gave in coz I know I can speak my mind with you guys🤗

Wokay here goes, First things first!! This whole fury against makers for calling Anuj an abuser is silly!(no offense intended). From the plethora of tweets and posts directed towards this, I find its imp we step back and have a perspective like you would watch a play. There are 3 core protagonists this track is revolving around right now with 1 antagonist hell bent on making their lives a nightmare. To be clear, makers did not label Anuj as an abuser by his actions or conflicts but made Vanraj call him that coz thats exactly his intent. He is a MANIPULATOR. There are no right, wrong, virtues and values for them. All they do is gaslight and taint a picture to you that is NOT REAL!! Author Omar Johnson infact calls Manipulation an art!! Its not easy to make you accept a truth that doesnt exist😶. Today he succeeded in doing so. Before we revolt and rip apart a dialogue, lets understand the context in which it was placed! Anu did not call him Abuser, samar, Mukku, toshu, Baa, K did not call him abuser. VANRAJ did!! I dont see any surprise element there. For pete's sake he manipulated his wife of 25 yrs and mother of his child then who is Anuj???

Next, Mukku's unfair demand/blame on Anuj and our reaction to her. Today post the epi we all were running on emotions coz we hate to see Anuj hurt and hate it more when someone intentionally hurts him. I get it and I include myself in this too. First thing in the am wen you watch this, it can get intense but that doesnt mean the story or plot is bad or crappy. Vanika was crappy! Not this! The night Mukku was introduced as Anuj's sis and V's partner, we all knew we would see this day so am not at all shocked or surprised by the turn of events infact am impressed how makers scrapped their previous tracks to seamlessly make way for this vidhwans. Mukku is a DV survivor, her mental state is tender, raw and highly impressionable..lets also know that she never asked Anuj to leave Anu. She was upset that even for namesake or even if its to pacify, he dint immediately say 'he will'. Mukku is a mere CATALYST/PUPPET to the real master mind here. She has been brain washed to believe that Anuj doesnt care for her and with the circumstances right in front of her she was forced to incline towards believing V. So I dont blame Mukku at all. She is annoying, naive and to a certain extent stupid but she is NOT BAD!!

The last point: Anu maintaining silence and not using the voice clips. Okay lets pls remind ourselves that is not Money heist or Crime patrol😂😂.this is a drama fiction and lets think within the parameters of that. Besides Anu staying true to charac there is also one more reason I feel the Voice notes wouldnt have any impact on Mukku. Anuj will deffo believe it but there is no need to provide him with the notes as Anuj already knows V is an A grade kameena. So the only person who needs to react is Mukku but the issue is Mukku was already sea deep with trust for her Raj. How many times in our lives we have all had toxic bf's or friends and our moms will immediately ask us to stay away from them but we pay no heed to it and later turns out mama bear was right. Today when I turn back, am like what was I thinking but back then you are caught in that toxic loop. That is the power of mind and emotional entanglement. Mukku now feels V is her well wisher and MaAn are those nagging parents who dont understand her but the tide wil change and very soon she will painfully learn his circus act. Mukku doesnt like to be told what to do so she needs to burn, scar and slash to not touch the hot vessel again. This track is perfect for that.

One last teeny meeny point..this is a long running show..they cannot show romance, happy, candy floss moments all the time. MaAn would have lost all their essence long back if we saw them 20 mins on screen even for 10 days at a stretch. Cribbing for every single track and dialogue is not done. We wanted V as Villain so let him do that with full shiddhat..A lot has been discussed about the precap as well. Anuj is either giving it to M or Anu. With all the posts and analysis even I am tipping my scales to Anu coz thats the only way to hit Vanraj's ego! The show was always about Anu vs Vanraj and this theme will continue in or some or other form in the show! Anuj is a smart man and he will do what is needed for M to learn her lesson. Honestly am very excited for upcoming. Instead of getting emotionally involved, lets enjoy this as a piece of story telling and you will find all characters being honest to their sketch.

And those of you who are calling this plot toxic, am actually happy for u guys in a way coz you havent experienced toxicity in your life in a full blown gasket and gods grace let it stay that way😇💫🙏 This plot is anything but toxic .it has lot of life lessons in them. So be inspired not influenced!!🙌 Bad winning over good is another statement I kept saying on twitter. I dont mean to sound philosiphical but good and bad are 2 sides of the same coin. They complement each other. You know light coz you have seen and experienced darkness, you know how precious love and happiness are coz you have seen pain and misery. For Vanraj, what he is doing is right so accord to him he is not evil. Rather than good and evil lets just say every action, word and thought has a consequence to it and Vanraj will face them in due time. Evil is based on greed and since its rooted on something outside of you, you take and take and take until left with nothing whereas Goodness is based on love. Its rooted within you. It is not loud, dramatic or demanding yet very profound and only thing that will sustain. This is why Anu doesnt react to everything yet when time comes she will stand strong and mighty and Vanraj will crumble🙂 and Kanhaji ke kripa se will witness that day soon🧿🧿🧿

Sorry for the long post peeps!! And dint intend to hurt anyone. If you felt so, apologies🤧🤧

I agree with you point to point!

I was actually waiting for someone to say this😆

Jitna drama utna maza honestly I'm actually enjoying the current track conflict hi na ho tho kya dekhenge rooz Anu n anuj ka chai and office wala romance... Yaar usse se toh already bore ho chuke hai log... Imagine having to see only that through out the week

Mujhe toh drama chahiye aur thoda intelligent writing bhi.. in the wole track Mukku ka character is being most inconsistent!! Hope she gets a direction!!

Aur ek baat koi Anuj k bedroom me drwaza lagwado please😳

Originally posted by: sunshine36

Hey guys been wanting to write a brief post but kept going back and forth contemplating and finally gave in coz I know I can speak my mind with you guys🤗

Wokay here goes, First things first!! This whole fury against makers for calling Anuj an abuser is silly!(no offense intended). From the plethora of tweets and posts directed towards this, I find its imp we step back and have a perspective like you would watch a play. There are 3 core protagonists this track is revolving around right now with 1 antagonist hell bent on making their lives a nightmare. To be clear, makers did not label Anuj as an abuser by his actions or conflicts but made Vanraj call him that coz thats exactly his intent. He is a MANIPULATOR. There are no right, wrong, virtues and values for them. All they do is gaslight and taint a picture to you that is NOT REAL!! Author Omar Johnson infact calls Manipulation an art!! Its not easy to make you accept a truth that doesnt exist😶. Today he succeeded in doing so. Before we revolt and rip apart a dialogue, lets understand the context in which it was placed! Anu did not call him Abuser, samar, Mukku, toshu, Baa, K did not call him abuser. VANRAJ did!! I dont see any surprise element there. For pete's sake he manipulated his wife of 25 yrs and mother of his child then who is Anuj???

Next, Mukku's unfair demand/blame on Anuj and our reaction to her. Today post the epi we all were running on emotions coz we hate to see Anuj hurt and hate it more when someone intentionally hurts him. I get it and I include myself in this too. First thing in the am wen you watch this, it can get intense but that doesnt mean the story or plot is bad or crappy. Vanika was crappy! Not this! The night Mukku was introduced as Anuj's sis and V's partner, we all knew we would see this day so am not at all shocked or surprised by the turn of events infact am impressed how makers scrapped their previous tracks to seamlessly make way for this vidhwans. Mukku is a DV survivor, her mental state is tender, raw and highly impressionable..lets also know that she never asked Anuj to leave Anu. She was upset that even for namesake or even if its to pacify, he dint immediately say 'he will'. Mukku is a mere CATALYST/PUPPET to the real master mind here. She has been brain washed to believe that Anuj doesnt care for her and with the circumstances right in front of her she was forced to incline towards believing V. So I dont blame Mukku at all. She is annoying, naive and to a certain extent stupid but she is NOT BAD!!

The last point: Anu maintaining silence and not using the voice clips. Okay lets pls remind ourselves that is not Money heist or Crime patrol😂😂.this is a drama fiction and lets think within the parameters of that. Besides Anu staying true to charac there is also one more reason I feel the Voice notes wouldnt have any impact on Mukku. Anuj will deffo believe it but there is no need to provide him with the notes as Anuj already knows V is an A grade kameena. So the only person who needs to react is Mukku but the issue is Mukku was already sea deep with trust for her Raj. How many times in our lives we have all had toxic bf's or friends and our moms will immediately ask us to stay away from them but we pay no heed to it and later turns out mama bear was right. Today when I turn back, am like what was I thinking but back then you are caught in that toxic loop. That is the power of mind and emotional entanglement. Mukku now feels V is her well wisher and MaAn are those nagging parents who dont understand her but the tide wil change and very soon she will painfully learn his circus act. Mukku doesnt like to be told what to do so she needs to burn, scar and slash to not touch the hot vessel again. This track is perfect for that.

One last teeny meeny point..this is a long running show..they cannot show romance, happy, candy floss moments all the time. MaAn would have lost all their essence long back if we saw them 20 mins on screen even for 10 days at a stretch. Cribbing for every single track and dialogue is not done. We wanted V as Villain so let him do that with full shiddhat..A lot has been discussed about the precap as well. Anuj is either giving it to M or Anu. With all the posts and analysis even I am tipping my scales to Anu coz thats the only way to hit Vanraj's ego! The show was always about Anu vs Vanraj and this theme will continue in or some or other form in the show! Anuj is a smart man and he will do what is needed for M to learn her lesson. Honestly am very excited for upcoming. Instead of getting emotionally involved, lets enjoy this as a piece of story telling and you will find all characters being honest to their sketch.

And those of you who are calling this plot toxic, am actually happy for u guys in a way coz you havent experienced toxicity in your life in a full blown gasket and gods grace let it stay that way😇💫🙏 This plot is anything but toxic .it has lot of life lessons in them. So be inspired not influenced!!🙌 Bad winning over good is another statement I kept saying on twitter. I dont mean to sound philosiphical but good and bad are 2 sides of the same coin. They complement each other. You know light coz you have seen and experienced darkness, you know how precious love and happiness are coz you have seen pain and misery. For Vanraj, what he is doing is right so accord to him he is not evil. Rather than good and evil lets just say every action, word and thought has a consequence to it and Vanraj will face them in due time. Evil is based on greed and since its rooted on something outside of you, you take and take and take until left with nothing whereas Goodness is based on love. Its rooted within you. It is not loud, dramatic or demanding yet very profound and only thing that will sustain. This is why Anu doesnt react to everything yet when time comes she will stand strong and mighty and Vanraj will crumble🙂 and Kanhaji ke kripa se will witness that day soon🧿🧿🧿

Sorry for the long post peeps!! And dint intend to hurt anyone. If you felt so, apologies🤧🤧

I seriously have no idea why everyone is getting so much angry over Vanraj words like Why, does that guy words matter this much. He literally manipulated the whole situation and specifically used that word to gaslight malvika her traumatic past and DV and if V word has worked you up that much,just thinks how much havoc it has played with already fragile mind of malvika.she is clinically depress person.

The thing is Anuj intentions were not wrong but his decisions has made malvika suffer, yes malvika never blamed Anuj for anything, but just imagine this same situation happens in arrange marriage to a girl, don’t you think that person in anger would not have blamed his parents for ruining her life as she trusted them with the decision. Haven’t we all have been through these situations in our lives. Yes they don’t mean it but these things happens in real life too and here the situation was tricky with malvika being so so vulnerable.

And whatever happened today, I am not at all mad at malvika the only person we all need to direct out gaalis and anger is Vanraj. She only just wanted to hear from his brother that, he will leave everyone for her and yes even anupama, she just needed an assurance. People are like what if he said yes, and she has asked Anuj to leave anu.
what if Anuj has said Yes and the girl has flipped and said, I know you will say this Bhai but plz never ever leave anu.
Obviously they didn’t show that Bec conflict would have ended than and there.

More than being toxic I find this plot to be triggering.

I don’t want Anuj to give away everything and walk away no that not him, he will not leave mukku in a mess and he should not. Vanraj has done this before with Anupama during their whole married life blaming her for his EMA, manipulation her and making her believe that she was not worth any thing in life.

He is using the same tactics here with malvika, yes this time he is doing it more cleverly but things at stake for him are huge.

So it’s high time he gets his karma who better than anu and anuj to do that. It’s second time V is playing havoc with Kapadia family, first time with anu it was more indirect but this time it’s more direct.

I hope what I am saying make sense.

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Originally posted by: RainFire125

hahaha, i agree Mini. i just bought this point to say that our mytho itself is a prime example of evil winning!!! I love to discuss mytho and infact i dont like Yudhi at all!! feel free anytime to call me out and discuss our mytho. Krishna is a political King and ever nuances of politics can be learnt from him and his acts. Karma paid or made people pay, that's a diff thing, but here also i have a ques that why does karma come early for good people and a way little late for bad people???? hahaha

This much toxicity and many people will stop watching. I dont blame anyone here at all!!🤗

Have you guys seen Dharmakshetra? An excellent attempt at looking at each of the main characters of the Mahabharat.

I understand you all guys discussion regarding story meri problem yeh hain ki i get attached to charectors way too much if I like them anuj yeh hi ho raha 😆 main reasons I don't watch much shows

To mere liye yeh track gulp karna bhari hain let see what happens but will not watch in early morning don't want to start my day with crying aaj ka kafi tha 😛

Originally posted by: sunshine36

And Stupidity cant be"- Dietrich Bonhoeffer....when I read this as a child, dint get it but with experiences you just do! This is exactly how I felt listening to Mukku and her allegations today🙄🙄 Her stupidity and mind numbingly painful logic has left me embarassed🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Honestly this is not just her stupidity. If Anu had opened her mouth on his intentions on Sankranti itself, Anuj wouldnt have witnessed this day! She chose shubh muhurath to open her mouth and lo aagaya🤨🤨..patha iss poore episode whom I wanted to slap? Not Mukku, Anu or even Vanraj!! I wanted to rap Toshu so badly..why? Lets see😤😤

Episode picks off with Vanraj manipulating and instigating Mukku. The words of sacrifice and love and 2 way street in relationships sounded funny coming out of V's mouth..all I kept saying was Ada paaavi (tamil word) that roughly translates to Oh my god/abbey paapi types😑😑 Supposedly even after loving Kavya he wanted to stay with Anu and make things right but Anu dint want to give him a 'chance'. This throws a light on how women are even today held responsible for divorce and made to feel guilty phir chaahe galthi kisiki bhi ho and this is not the 1st time he has taunted her for this! I still dont get the why the otherwise gyaan dhene waali Anu chose to shut up while V was busy blabbering nonsense to M. Vaanar shah drags M's unfortunate past incl Akshay and her abusive marraige and pinned the entire blame on Anuj for the mishaps they turned out to be!! Anuj tries to stop V at a point but Anu stops him! I still dont understand why! Abhi kya damage ke liye wait kar rahi hai🙄

Vanraj hits the final nail on her head with raising Anuj and Anu's partnership and leaves with a dirty smirk on his face..he has done what he knows best..another lesson learnt- never ever share personal life with ppl..you never who is a wolf out there in sheep's clothing😑😑

Samar witnesses the entire drama and supports Anuj and Anu in this along with kinju and baapuji..of course Baa jaaps mera raja beta mera raja beta like a parrot and finds MaAn equally wrong. I feel now with these changed dynamics Baa might again turn against them, not in an evil way but I already see Team Anu/anuj and Team Vaanar shah here. Icing on the cake is when Toshu says 'Malvika ko papa jaise bhi pasand ho, issme Papa ki kyaa galthi'...waah beta aaj toh bada pyaar araha hai..yehi logic kahaan thi jab mummy ke baari thi..can you pls stand facing north bent in 45 degrees..coz I wanna kick your a$$ till north pole..jaake santa claus ke saath bait and visit the planet only once a year😡😡. Kavya is again bang on when she affirms, V will not stop until he succeeds! We owe a collective apology to K queen🙌🙌

Mukku is all painted with Vanraj's manipulation as she questions Anuj and his love for her. She holds him responsible for her pain and failed relationships. The precap was yet again misleading, she doesnt ask or put her foot down to leave Anu..she claims to know that Anuj will not leave Anu! She is mad and let down but threatens him of consequences before walking away! Anuj is deeply disturbed and Anu has just watched an entire nightmare unfold😪😪

Malvika sends an apology note to V and he knew he tamed the bull and is rejoicing his success when Kavya showers him with flowers and congragulates him for ruining another bond but V is unpertubed by all this and walks away promising her to not stop until he reaches his goal😶😶😑😐

Anu is heartbroken and packs her bags to leave. Shr hands over the project files and musters courage with her broken voice to tell him that she will not leave his life but choses to walk away from the project and the siblings equation. Just when it feels like shards of glass piercing you, Anuj stops her!

Precap- I think Anuj will hand over entire empire to Mukku and leaves with Anu. So are we seeing the sadak par aana unfold??🤔🤔 other than this, I dont see any other 'bada faisla' by Mr Kapadia. If this happens, there will be no MaAn seperation and Mukku will gradually learn about V...I would actually prefer this track to MaAn seperation..🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Verdict- Dont miss it! Sudanshu shines and honestly was the best in today's episode. I am liking this turn of events now coz MaAn seperating seemed very cliche to me..makers are trying something different am all for it waiting with popcorn..Hope they dont stretch the poor Man Anuj for too long though!! The new reels that Gaurav and Sudanshu posted recently also felt like a hint that Anuj has become the common man now and V the big shot business guys just like he dreamt😷😷🤒🤕

Oh and highlight of today's episode- Vanraj calls Anuj an abuser...waaah!! V needs a standing ovation man!!

Let me know what you guys think🤗🤗 Happy Friday peeps😍😍

Thanks for the tag priyanka🤗 i read the update in the morning and it made me sad. hurt, guilt tripped, dejected and helpless Anuj in updates breaks my heart let alone watching him. I need to get detached from him and that's why I didn't like anything about today's episode and found it triggering. Sudhanshu is doing good but this track started 40 epis back and it has become Intolerable, want it to get over by next Saturday. If again makers are gonna make Anuj weak and are making this track Anu Vs V then I'm out. I will get over anuj too though with heartbeat and will not invest in any show in near future.☹️

It will be best if Anuj tries to trap vanraj, only then track will end soon and we will rejoice.

See I get what you are trying to imply and what point you are trying to make.

Fine, I agree to the point that V mentioned him abuser, so I will take it as jiski khud ki value nahi hai, uske baat ki kya value... He is manupulator, I agree to this also. U r perfect in this.

Lets move to Mukku, yes she is vulnerable and at a frigile mental state, jaha use koi bhi mould kar sakta hai... us point pe I am not going that she lived 10 years akele, blah blah.... Every thing is fine. I will support her ... ye bhi thik hai... which I dont want to but tere liye I will do it...

I agree to you that let her learn her lesson bz she dont want to learn from others experience which is said to be important sometimes in our life as when life teaches us it take a lot as a guru dakshina... So let her be. Let her fall and run towards her bro crying and I am sure Anuj will embrace her with open arms...

But my question and point is that if ONLY MUKKU NEEDS TO LEARN THE LESSON??? AND NOT VANRAAJ? Cant makers put it this way that this time usne galat bande se panga le liya hai... i.e. Anuj who is shown as a NRI powerful business man but gentle at the same time for loved ones???

Tell me pri, Tu hi bata mujhe, if I am asking more?? I am not saying romance dikhau but I want for once just once, Vanraaj should see the real roar of the Lion, i.e. Anuj. I dont want to see him as bechara. I agree that loved ones pe koi hit karta hai hum hill jate hai... but just for once I am asking...

Tu hi bata pri ab... and tujhe hi batana hoga... pri ... pri.... pri...🤣

Bolo bolo tell tell 😆... I know I have started the reply on a serious note but friends ke saath kya hi serious hona... 😆

Originally posted by: sunshine36

Thats fine dear..am always disappointed with Vanraj too but in recent times, the last 2 episodes had Sudanshu give his best so just wanted to appreciate that..it was heart breaking to see Anu and Anuj broken. These 2 souls hav gone though enough but this shall pass too!! MaAn will always be together no matter what. Baaki unki show hai so we will just hav to ride the storm out😑😔😔

hey Sunny 🤗

I love your unbiased take and the humour added in each review.

Personally, have nothing against Sudhanshu. Only thing i don't like is the level too which writes stoop to make his character strong. Technically, if you see Gaurav's character is success not because he has strong role or something but it's because he acts so well, the nuances he adds. Even in scenes not written well, he and Rups shine and bring them to life..

Plus, someone said Komolika, what a vamp, till date she is remembered more than leads but they never degraded her character so low. I used to literally enjoy her on screen but i can't enjoy Vanraj. Glad you are enjoying it ❤️

Originally posted by: YoungHeart

Anuj will not go anywhere.. he will be there supporting Anu from behind.

I toh feel he will even name some shares, property and all to Anu now. He with his own eyes saw vanraj manipulating mukku and he knows she's in a bad company. He will not write everything to Mukku cuz he knows Vanraj will manipulate her further for his own gains. He saw it all from his own eyes... he's not able to make mukku understand, she's fallen too deep into the pit. Unless and until she sees Vanraj's manipulations from her own eyes, she won't believe anyone.

Its like when Anupama was married to vanraj and until she saw vanya together on her bed being intimate, she didn't believe anyone. Sometimes you need to experience things yourself.. When Mukku falls too deep into the pit, is when she will realize and thats when Anu and Anuj will come and save mukku.. with vanraj falling flat on his face.. and Mukku will also be the one to bring Anu back into their life, house.. possibly by suggesting marriage..

@bold : nice take, lovely.

But there is difference, Anu didn't had that strong relation with Devika and neither had any past.

Her Malvika supposedly had or not cant say, but Anuj is there for her. And then her 2 failed relationship.

She knew Akshay was wrong and yet was ready to settle with him. Her ideology didnt match but its not like Anuj said Akshay was after money and she was blind, didnt knew what Akshay was really after..

It's surprising if the 10 years younger Mukku can know that Akshay was really after her Money. how come she doesn't know today that Vanraj is actually after Anu, he is doing all this to hurt Anu.

I know Anuj's character wont go away but i want Vanika to be over fully. I don't want another month where Mukku finds it for herself.. And we all say Anu never got time to heal. So this time, let her accept that she failed, she should have never trusted Vanraj. Take step back and heal, putting Anu in front to fight Vanraj doesnt make sense...

Well nothing in this whole track ever made sense, so who am i kidding.. lets see next week what they do.

Vanika cringe will be success for me, if this track once and for all changes Anu where after she never ever supports Vanraj. She openly calls him ghatiya insaan. The way he whistled yday, wow Pakhi's super dad is some roadside romeo. Okay, i know this will be my khayali pulao, par sochne main kya jata hai..