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Posted: 18 years ago
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I am a new member.However I have been reading this forum for sometime now.I am personally more fond of east and central,though i agree that west played very well on the d day.Congrats to them.👏
Having said that i also think that omitting the beginning of the song 'hum pe yeh kisne ' was a mistake.I am a regular watcher of antakshari(haven't missed any episode).I am giving reasons and precedents from antakshari for my point of view.

a)In one episode of antakshari(the episode where ritika became the winner for the second consecutive time),a song was played in bhagam bhag round from satte pe satta
'pyar hume kis mod pe le aaya'.West identified the song correctly,but when they were about to be awarded points,east objected saying the song started with the words
'Hum ne vo kya dekha jo kaha deevana
Hum ko nahin kuchh samajh zara samajhana '

There was a lot of discussion after which west did not get marks for the song.Reasons given were:

When,in the original, the singer sings and it is accompanied by background music/rhythm,it is considered to be part of the beginning of the song (mukra).However if these same lines had been sung without any background score and we could only hear the singer's' voice,then it would be considered to be part of prelude,not mukra.On this basis,it was decided that the team had not sung the song from start.

This mistake would have gone unnoticed if east team had not objected.This proves that the research team has made some mistakes in the past which were rectified only when the participants pointed out the mistake.It also pretty clearly explains the difference between prelude and mukra.

To prove his point further,annu kapur cited the example of a popular song - 'hum tum ek kamre mein band ho' from bobby which starts with 'bahar se koi andar na aa sake'.Hence the starting of the song is considered to be
'bahar se koi andar na aa sake' and not
'hum tum ek kamre mein band ho'.Everybody unanimously agreed to this.
Please note here that the lines
'Bahar se koi andar na aa sake
andar se koi bahar na ja sake'
are said only once in the song.Still they were considered to be part of the starting.If that is so,then,by extension of the same logic
'yeh kiski hai aahat...' should be part of the mukra,esp since thaese lines are also accompanied by mild background music.

Don't know how many agree/disagree with this.But the facts that i have stated can be checked on antakshari's previous episodes. 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Hey, very well said.. I agreee with u...
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Posted: 18 years ago
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i think in some songs the starting has to be sung but in humpe yeh kisne is a song which people sing from here itself and 1 more thing the song from bunty and babli kajra re is sung from here but the starting is different
and also tht humpe yeh kisne is sung from here which people do and tht objection thing which u said is right cause in tht song the lines which is sung by west came vv behind and humpe is the starting only and if ull think i think tht those people r more experienced and they known wht is right or wrong and this is a famous song if this was not the starting i think neeti or anyother team would have objected cause all teams were good and smart
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Posted: 18 years ago
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The song kajra re starts from 'aise nazar se dekha'.However when it is sung in antakshari etc,the starting is considered to be 'Mera chain vain sab ujda'.This is because when the lines'Aisi nazar are sung there is no background music or rhythm.As i already stated,when the singer's voice is not accompanied by background music in the original it is considered as part of prelude and not mukra.Mukra is supposed to start from'Mera chain vain'since it is accompanied by background score.
At least this is what i thought.
But,here we come another surprising precedent from antakshari(27th april episodes where stars were present).In jhalak dikhlaja round the song 'kajra re' was played and east ki aan(rohit and mansi roy) identified the sog and sang from 'mera chain vain'.West(shweta salve and father)objected and started singing from'aisi nazar se'.West was given + 10 and east was given - 10.
Doesn't make logical sense(my opinion).maybe they were lenient with the stars.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I agree with u that the research team probably must have known what they were doing.But my guess is that in this case, maybe they made a genuine mistake.(after all they are human beings).To err is human! I don't think they were intentionally partial to the west,as some ppl are saying.

Edited by rock&roll - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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a mistake that proved costly 4 the central....
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Posted: 18 years ago
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the problem is that central team too did not notice that... else they cud have objected...

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