Reflections and Analysis, July 28, 2007

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I must say I enjoyed yesterday's episode and that had to do at least as much with the celebrity guests, both of whom have a self-effacing but positive presence in such a setting. It was nice to hear songs that are not sung in every third episode.

Ishmeet's sur is getting shaky. But he did not get a great musical composition to sing, either, more's the pity. Can you think of better Anil Kapoor songs that he could have sung? What I will say for Ishmeet is that he has really performed a range of very different songs in the last few weeks. His grade: B

Abhaas and Abhilasha were excellent. They are usually technically flawless, but Abhaas must take care that dancing does not shake his sur. They brought a rare charm and sweetness to their performance and would have made a very charming EMET pair, I think! This grade is a no-brainer: A+

Toshi and Mirande. Here's some truth-in-advertising, a confession that must precede this analysis: Toshi really irritates me. He comes across to me as very self-absorbed and very smug, a quality that prevents his improving very far beyond his present level of competence. The result is that he never impresses me: he sings the same kind of song, has the same little semi-classical interludes in all of them, and as Ramta Jogi showed, is a very selfish performer.

Mirande had the plainer part of the song to sing (which she did eminently well and with grace), got left standing in a corner while he did his little theatrical thing with Anil Kapoor. And then did he say something about not having parents? In all honesty, I cannot give Toshi a grade and say it is about his performance, so I will grade Mirande alone: A.

Prantik and Priyani appear now to be the weak links in the competition although Irfan seems to have decided to give them a run for their money. Prantik wandered away from sur several times, and Priyani sounded metallic with a few almost-hit notes although she stayed within the scale. My grade for them: C+

Sumitra finally sang something different, but here too, she chose a song with two voices. I grant she does them both excellently, but soon she will be marketing herself as "two for the price of one" and most songs are not written like that. She missed a note in just one place, as I recall. I want to say that her performances are bordering on theatrics. Perhaps this is her actual personality, but yesterday's entire Anil Kapoor interaction had a very 'maska polish' quality to it. Unnecessary with her calibre. She has to get an A because she is really very good.

I am going to grade Arshpreet and Irfan separately. Arshpreet was fantastic. Her voice sounded great, she was technically flawless and she can really perform without any detriment to singing. A+

Irfan is just a man in a tearing hurry and for two performances now, has consistently started before the beat on almost every line in his song. Sur is also a little hit and miss. I feel bad about this because he can sing very well if he slows down as the Guru performance shows. C

Harshid and Prantika had yet another silly song to sing and brought an unexpected dignity to it. A little more life could have helped but their sur and taal were perfect. B+ to them, I would have given them an A, but I never find either of them that compelling. So shall I make it a B++?

The team selection process was silly but I would have found some way to criticise it no matter how they did it, I guess. I am surprised that Abhijeet did not pick Abhaas when he had a choice. And I want to see Alka's face when she learns that she has to train Priyani, but I think as the IF discussions have predicted, they will bond in an predictable, unpredictable twist. As things stand, the Aadesh-Lalit team seems stronger, with better male and female singers.

A good episode on the whole in terms of singing quality. I started voting yesterday with voting for Abhaas and Abhilasha. I voted for Abhaas a lot as Toshi sang. Then I just did not have enough steam to continue or I would have voted for Sumitra and Arshpreet.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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thanks vanajakshi,i agree with A+ for arshpreet(fantastic),abhaas and abhilasha.

seems like the episode last night was better than i thought😆. ..

the usual suspects are back in the forum telling us how gajji and the show sucks 😆 .reminds me of the jaipur,indore, delhi episodes period...Is the show back in reckoning?
GURU dialogue is apt here..'when people start talking about you-samjho tarakki kar rahe ho'

P.S. i wonder if the saas bahu serial forums have this problem-jhaank ke dekhna,ki pados mein kya ho raha hai...'parvathi sucks 😆 ,tulsi is the best 😆'
Edited by ankita31 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: ankita31

thanks vanajakshi,i agree with A+ for arshpreet(fantastic),abhaas and abhilasha.

seems like the episode last night was better than i thought😆. ..

the usual suspects are back in the forum telling us how gajji and the show sucks 😆 .reminds me of the jaipur,indore, delhi episodes period...Is the show back in reckoning?
GURU dialogue is apt here..'when people start talking about you-samjho tarakki kar rahe ho'

P.S. i wonder if the saas bahu serial forums have this problem-jhaank ke dekhna,ki pados mein kya ho raha hai...'parvathi sucks 😆 ,tulsi is the best 😆'



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Edited by smallwonder - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jaadoogar

Na hi forum ka koi section kisi member ki jaageer hai aor naa hi TV ka koi show... Members from SRGMP section never said anybody to avoid criticising the show or performance or judges in SRGMP section...All members are similar but you are stopping members to give their opinion and you are trying to dictate your terms on members here in this section... I never seen in anybody saying this to any member in last 2 years in forum...

For Mods: Are we restricted from giving our opinion here in this section?????



Not at all - no one is restricted to give their views in the forum... You are most welcome to do so... I understand certain posts could offend members, but kindly ignore such posts and let us have a constructive exchange of ideas here😊 I donot know much regarding the srgmp section, but I can just say, I see these two shows as complimenting each other... No reason why we should see these two forums as seperate from each other... Most members are common to both and I am sure both forums would be as welcoming to members from either sections... Hopefully, we leave this behind and continue to have some good discussions in the sections...😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Ok Back to discussion 😊
Good analysis vanajaakshi 👏


I don't know who decide about songs .. contestants themeselves or someone else ...
This time formate was a bit wierd cause some sing solo and other duet. so personally I think it is difficult to judge them though we still can see one of the partner was better there or not ..however I am not a technical person yet know they have to adjust their scales according to their partner so they all may not be sing on their best scales.
smilar song choice which may appeal is something related to personal taste as well .. I guess.. if I like semi classical songs a bit more I may not mind listening it over and over again and if I like fast dance number I wouldn't mind it or may over look it ..
Problem with Tosh is.. we simply can't avoid comparing him with his brother..unfortunately he is singing all the songs which Sharib has already sung. he should be given some different songs.. he sang Din dhal jaye very well .I feel he sing best when he doesn't have to dance 😆.
as for similar choice of songs ..the problem is same with Sumitra too 😊 and may be I like semi classical songs so Toshi is not bothering me that much 😆 😆 😆 plus no doubt he can sing better compare to some hyped contestants 😉
on Sat.. Abhilasha and Abhaas did very well .. infact I Like Harshid and Prantika number too .
Arshpreet was good .. Iran could've done better.
Ishmeet should choose different songs it didn't go well for him.
I was not at all impress with Priyani and Prantik..




Edited by Morning_Dew - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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For the Saturday episode:

Ishmeet: Why did he have to choose this song? Already sung by a bad singer, Mohd Aziz, either he could have bettered him, or go worse than him...he did the latter. At least Aziz had some josh.....Ishmeet sounded tired.

Abhaas and Abhilasha: Probably performance of the day. Abhaas is difficult to beat,and Abilasha is good, though I felt Abhilasha sang a bit restrained. Abhass slipped here and there, but overall, very very good. The depth in Abhaas's voice is breathtaking! They both maintained the softness of the song, and sang with emotions....lovely!

Toshi and Mirande: Toshi was a wee bit shaky at the start, but he literally took over the song when it came to the crunch - sargam, which is his forte. Mirande was great, and she kept up the tempo. The co ordination was worth watching. Mirande picked up Toshi's cues like a pro...he was moving a lot and acted out of script when he walked down to get Anil over to the stage.....beautiful performance !

Prantik and Priya: These two are the weakest link in the show, and I was not surprised to see them paired together... 😆 Priyani should try out acting as suggested by Anil. She looked gorgeous, emoted beautifully. In fact both emoted the song excellently and for a change was a good performance by both of them. Still, when compared to others, it was strictly OK.

Sumitra: Another superb performance.She has maintained her standard and that is heartening.After her first round performance to the bemisaal barah, Alka probably was not alone in thinking she was given more weightage than she deserved...but her performance yesterday proved its not so. She is a wonderful singer, and she is a live wire on stage.

Irfaan and Arshpreet: K-Sara Sara Sara....one of my fav fast numbers, Irfaan started badly. But Arshpreet..she is fast becoming my fav. Not only she gave the song what it needed, the josh, the masti, the emotions, but she gave it her own identity as well...with her unique voice. She was stupendous ! Loved her. Irfaan though left much to be desired.

Prantika: Prantika was awesome, and inspite of all my scepticism, I liked Harshit in this song. However, I feel he simply does not give the much needed impetus and feel to a song which is needed to lift it above average. maybe he didn't want to sing it with her... 😉 😆 Overall, an above average from harshit and excellent effort by Prantika.

Overall, a good episode. Almost none of the songs, barring K-Sara Sara is to my liking, but I enjoyed this episode thoroughly!


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Posted: 18 years ago
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The episode of Anil Kapoor and Akshaye Khanna was one which I thought would be like any other celebrity episode that I will not like... But I was proved so wrong by some awesome performances and some very graceful comments from the guests.... The only think which I probably did not like was that some of the contestants tried too hard to impress Anil Kapoor... Else, it was a very musical evening....

Ishmeet selected a bad song, and sang it even worse... I am not sure, why he needed to select that song... Vanaja posted a question, what song of Anil Kapoor would have suited him a lot.. the immediate one that comes to my mind is 'Tumse milke' from Parinda... I think, its his voice and his persona that he should stick to softer numbers...

Just when I thought that I am not going to enjoy the episode today given the start from Ishmeet, my 2 personal favs Abhilasha and Abhaas came back with a rcoking performance... So young at age, and what maturity of singing and performance... Just loved it... Abhaas was a shade better than Abhilasha, and is emerging as the probably the strongest contender for the title.... But both of them sang beautifully, and did complete justice to my fav song.. I was actually thinking, why RDB had to choose Sanu to sing the original version anyway!

Ramta Jogi - sung many times before, and I was anyway apprehensive of how Toshi would sing it! Toshi had a bad start.. he picked up and was steady after that... But, as Vanaja said and I concur... he seems to be one overconfident guy who thinks that he is way better than the rest... That is not going to take him anywhere.. He did well in the sargam part, but why was he trying to overshadow Mirande everytime.... Mirande, on the other hand, sang beautifully and maintained the feel of the song perfectly.... She could very well try to claim her space that was taken away by Toshi... but she was very graceful in her overall singing, performance as well as stage presence.. way to go Mirande

Prantik and Priyani - Did not select a very good song, and Priyani seemed more busy in emoting that controlling her singing... They brought out the emotions well.. I found Prantik doing well in transforming from the very soft 'I love you' to the hardhitting lines 'Kaante nahi..' though, he seemed to have problems with his diction..... Priyani really needs to control her higher pitch shrillness in order to proceed much further in the competition...

Sumitra selected a fav song of mine... did well with the Ila Arun portion... but did not like her rendition of the Lata portion... as already discussed elsewhere, Pawni in Lil Champs had really sung it better... Also, along with Toshi, I am getting particularly irritated with this girl also... She has this air around her, and tries to always project that on stage! What was the reason with VOI giving her so much of screen time? Why would she get this preferential treatment!

'Ke Sara Sara'... a very rhythmic song, and wow how did Arshpreet handle it... she had a flawless singing and performance... She is going to be very very tough to beat as well... very unique voice and what emotions.. Love this girl's singing.... Irfaan started week, but picked up well, I thought..... He was definitely lot better than Roobaroo of Friday...

Harshid and Prantika selected one of my least fav songs, but displayed very well how a vulgar song can be sung and performed with a lot of grace and charm... Prantika is not a natural performer, and I am amazed how well she is doing it, without impacting her singing at all... Harshid needed to put a little more feelings to the song, and as always - I really dont find him enjoying his performance when on stage... I think that will be very important for him to rectify if he wants to connect to the audience...

As for the guests - I found Akshay Khanna to be very very graceful... and he gave some good comments as well... Anil Kapoor was also dignified...

The selection of groups was not very well distributed, and I was amazed as to why Ahijeet would gamble on Ishmeet rather than others, and think twice for selecting Abhaas.... May be its my dislike for Adesh, or mu liking for Alka's judgement, I was somehow wanting to have a stronger Prithvi team, but the reverse has happened... But I still wish them all the best... At the end of it, may the best singer win!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I am getting sick of the adulation that is showered on every ordinary celebrity judge who comes along.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: punjini

I am getting sick of the adulation that is showered on every ordinary celebrity judge who comes along.

The question that comes to my mind everytime all these shows are doing this : Do the music industry lack musical celebrities now!!!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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while friday was a kind of dampener, saturday was refreshing ...

it was a good epi, not great, but nevertheless quite good ...

now for the performances -

ishmeet - wrong song sung badly ... cant say anything more ... jaya was bang on when she said 'tumse milke' wud've suited him ... maybe even 'ek ladki ko dekha' ... not this 🤢 ...

abhaas and abhilasha - a very good performance ... but ... i think i expect too much from them ... so everything they do seems less 😊 ... both lost sur at a couple of places and abhilasha was sounding strained ... so yes abhaas was better than abhilasha ... hope abhilasha learns from this and does better next week ...

toshi and mirande - mirande has almost replaced abhilasha as my fav ... she was excellent and so perfectly and gracefully restrained 👏 👏 👏 in front of toshi's larger than life persona
and i hv absolutely nothing to say abt toshi ... someone shud bring him back to earth ... soon ...

sumitra - she tried a different genre with the song, at least lataji's part is not her genre and going by her singing not her forte as well ...
as for performance full marks to her !!! but why no duet from her and ishmeet ?? and why that extra 'ek do teen' ... i feel she shud've made it her main number ... thot she sang that better ...
yeh baat kuch hajam nahi hui 😕

irfan and arshpreet - while irfan was quite gud, arshpreet was amazing 👏 👏 👏 ... this girl has the perfect voice, completely original ... full marks to her ... irfan is on a see saw ... kabhi up kabhi down ... overall i loved their performance ... very energetic ...

prantik and priyani - now again wrong song ... is that even a song worth singing in a competition ??? but not sure if they wud've done better with something else 😕 it was an expected performance ... prantik was not so bad ... priyani ... am beginning to feel bad for her ... she does have a very nice and sweet voice ... she shud train herself .. hopefully alka will make her do that ...

prantika and harshit - if they selected this song, they were indeed being very brave ... its not a song normally selected for such contests ... that said, they sung the song very well ... prantika was a shade better than harshit ... harshit was probably uncomfortable with the song or so i felt ... pratika, even if she was, didnt show it and sang very well 👏 👏 👏

overall ... my rankings as below -
arshpreet
mirande
prantika
abhaas
abhilasha
harshit
irfan
toshi
sumitra
prantik
ishmeet
priyani

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