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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

Wonderful take 👏👏

Yes after this Shobha should not care about them just how they dont care about her except Garima ...

I really felt bad for Shobha when she was almost pushed by the lawyer to lie in court about her relation with her husband and also about their Anniversary day .. Sighhh it was so difficult for her to remember those beautiful past memories , then being aware of the brutal present reality which was flashing in front of her eyes , yet lie through her teeth for the sake of her kids 😭😭 ...I liked how Shobha did indirectly taunt Samarth in her statement when she spoke about the definition of a successful marriage which is based on trust and if one breaks it , then the foundation itself is lost forever , thus making Samarth realise that he is a big failure as a husband in this relationship and today he is dependent on her one lie to save his a** ; For that one moment I got sadistic pleasure seeing Samarth put his head down in shame even if its for a split second 😡...

Samarth and that MIL were so heartless 😡 .. All they could do is smirk and smell their victory while Shobha was lieing and feeling immense pain for it 😭 .. Except Garima ,noone in court bothered to feel for Shobha and even in precap when police dragged Shobha inside the van , only Garima was running behind her , rest all were busy with Samarth to find out other ways to get him out 😡 but noone bothered to see how Shobha too was arrested when she has done no wrong 😭 ...

Now that Shobha is arrested , I feel only Vikram can come to her rescue and prove to the court that Shobha lied because she was forced to do so with false dhamki of Divorce by Tarun as Vikram might hv the CCTV footage when Tarun came to meet Shobha at Vikram's office 🤔 .. I m sure there must b some future purpose why Tarun came to office and even had a confrontation with Vikram .. So all that might work in favour of this case 😉 ... Tarun and Samarth might pressurise Shobha to stick to her lie wala statement which she gave in court even if it means having to stay in jail for some days since they r as it is heartless 😡 but Shobha this time may not agree to stay in jail with this lie which actually questions her integrity towards her country as well and thats when I see Vikram coming to her rescue ...

If Vikram does bail her out then I feel it might lead to Samarth-Shobha divorce by default because it will also mean Shobha takes her statement back as it will b proved that she lied ... So from here on I see ViBha coming together by default .. Its the circumstances which will bring both together in this case

Thanks Jyoti. 😊 Some great insights here!!
@ Feeling bad for Shobha: I was so incensed last night that Samarth was happy to put her reputation and well-being at risk by letting her testify wrongly in court. And deeply upset that Shobha was putting herself in the way of harm. I knew nothing good would come of it, and sure enough disaster struck!!
@ Vikram bailing her out: Vikram has been shown to be bracing (when Jiya was being bullied), so it's quite in keeping with his character to tell Shobha to stand up for herself and to help her fight off these two bullies - Samarth and Tarun. Evil, evil men. I so hope ViBha thrash them in this fight. And that they get their just desserts.
@ Vikram bailing her out leading to divorce: Well I hope that after spending a night in Jail separated from her children, that Shobha is mad as hell and spitting fire and tells Samarth to buzz off into whichever dark place he crawled out from. It will bring Vikram together, because he will help her out, although there will be pressure on him to let her go from work due to her now unsavoury reputation.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -.Aphrodite.-

Awesome post, Shobha is actually trapped in a web and all because of everyone she cared about. She was so scared and confused. She wanted to deny but then looking at her kids, she couldn't and this was her mistake because thinking about her kids, she completely forgot about the consequences of the false testimony. Everyone was happy that Samarth will be out. But in all this, they have made Shobha's life more difficult. She has criminal charges on her now and the kids, how they gonna face this. First their father and now mother, how will they survive? Sharda and all don't even think about them.

Felt really bad when police was dragging Shobha in van and only Garima was with Shobha. Everyone else were just worried about Samarth and his bail. They have once again crushed her confidence. I hope she will be able to face everything again and with more will power.

One thing I would love to see is Shobha completely stepping away from her marriage and Samarth.

Aphrodite, I so agree with you. 😊 Shobha led with her heart and not with her mind and fell into this trap. If ever there was an instance of 'good guys finish last' this one is it. But I really hope that she starts putting herself first, and also looking at the bigger picture - thinking with a cool and calm head. Easy to say, but that's the only way to outwit career criminals like Samarth and Tarun and make them pay.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Swetha-

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Wonderful take on the episode by u dear! 👏
I agree with the prediction @Jyoti has said.. ie Vikram will bail out Shobha.. by showing his office CCTV footage of Tarun Shobha talk.. how she was pressurized to lie for sake of her kids! 😭

Thanks Swetha. 😊 Delighted that you liked it.
I really hope that there is CCTV footage and that they can get Shobha out of this mess.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: YMe11

I completely understand a woman's dilemma when faced with the prospect of dislodging the father from his pedestal in her children's life and shake the family foundation. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes. It's extremely frightening.


Therefore, I completely understand and accept the fact that she has taken part in her husband's crime because she didn't want to break her marriage, her home, and take away the father from her children. And, I wouldn't hold it against her for these are our weaknesses; wrong or right, at times we are compelled to take such steps for our children's sake.

But, I do not accept the fact that she lied because of the threat of her children being taken from her, and had no choice at all. I can understand an uneducated woman falling for Samarth's threat of taking the children from her in the eventuality of a divorce. But, an educated woman doesn't even have to go to a lawyer to know that a court will not give custody to a man, who is being tried out for treason, for which he could face imprisonment and severe punishment, and who is caught so clearly on tape sleeping with a woman who is not his wife, and above all, who is at the mercy of her false testimony to clear his name. I do not like it when people believe that just because a woman is a housewife she has no sense of what's going on in the world around her.These things are the first one thinks of, and if she needs to be sure, she can always approach a lawyer to understand her chances.

Even more so, when your husband has given you a bad wake-up call, when things have gone legal, and you know you have slimeballs like Tarun around you. It's always sensible to approach another lawyer discreetly and understand the pros and cons of the law.

So, Shobha lying to keep her marriage and family in tact is completely different from the fact that Shobha felt threatened and feared her children being taken from her.

YMe

YMe, you make an interesting point and draw a fine line between what's acceptable and unacceptable in Shobha's situation.
From what I can understand you could have excused Shobha lying to keep the family together and not tarnish his image in the children's eyes. But you can't excuse Shobha lying out of fear that she would lose custody of her children.
Actually, Shobha did both. She lied when she signed the affidavit (before Tarun threatened) at home when her children cried for their father for their happiness. She wanted Samarth back then for the sake of her children.
In the morning, when TArun dealt her that blow, she was stunned, scared and overwhelmed. Her reactions said it all: the collapse on the floor in the meeting room. Rushing out of office to her children. Hugging them to her close. And when that wasn't enough, shutting herself into a room and clutching her middle as though she had been winded, which indeed she had been. She could not come to terms with the threat of loss. And actually, that was an absolutely natural reaction from a mother. Not OTT at all. In fact I had no problem believing that the shock was enough to drive any thought but her children out of her head. Which is why she went rushing in an auto to give Tarun the signed file at night.
She faltered on the stand (in court) but the memory of the threat pushed her back into the path of deceit.
I think at no point was she detached enough to think instead of feel. I do hope that that detachment and coldness comes in now and helps her to get out of this mess .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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No, I'm not condoning Shobha's lying. It was completely wrong. But, the claim that she did it because of the threat of losing her children doesn't wash with me at all. While lot many people are sympathising with her for it, I, at the risk of receiving a lot of flak, say it does not evoke my sympathy. It in fact irks me to see her continuing to be naive and gullible even after receiving a bad jolt from her husband.

She blindly accepts his and Tarun's illogical threats, instead of using her own sense and logic People spend sleepless nights, weighing the pros & cons when faced with such situations, and if I was in her place, I would have done a lot of thinking myself, no matter how emotional or heartbroken I am. She's a mature woman. She should know what signing an affidavit, or getting involved with the law means.

Faced with the threat, logically her thoughts should have been: Is it true what Samarth says? Will he get custody of the kids if the divorce happens. What happens if I don't sign the affidavit? Samarth will still be in jail, facing all those charges. Then, why would a judge give him custody of kids and not me? If she had given just a moment for a thought, she herself would find answers. She would realize that a judge would have many more reasons against giving custody of the kids to Samarth, than her. In fact Samarth is at her mercy for his freedom. If he's brought their relationship down to blackmail and bargains, then she has more bargaining power. And, then she could have taken a lawyer's advise, or if not spoken to someone, the police commissioner who is their friend, and she'd get a clearer picture. So, when she has better chances at custody, I certainly do not buy her excuse of lying because she feared the loss of her children.

On the other hand, if she'd perhaps lied because she didn't want to blow away the umbrella of family/father from above her children's head, then perhaps I would buy that excuse, even though I wouldn't want to stay married to someone like Samarth, or let the children grow up in in this irreparable marriage. Not everyone has the courage to destroy one's own family, and with most woman, husband, kids, family are a big weaknesses. But, either way, I do not condone her lying.

Well, I guess this is fiction. And, it's sympathy that is being called upon, here not logic.😊 The concentration is on a woman's pitiable and helpless state, even if she is shown to be without sense.





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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: YMe11

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No, I'm not condoning Shobha's lying. It was completely wrong. But, the claim that she did it because of the threat of losing her children doesn't wash with me at all. While lot many people are sympathising with her for it, I, at the risk of receiving a lot of flak, say it does not evoke my sympathy. It in fact irks me to see her continuing to be naive and gullible even after receiving a bad jolt from her husband.

She blindly accepts his and Tarun's illogical threats, instead of using her own sense and logic People spend sleepless nights, weighing the pros & cons when faced with such situations, and if I was in her place, I would have done a lot of thinking myself, no matter how emotional or heartbroken I am. She's a mature woman. She should know what signing an affidavit, or getting involved with the law means.

Faced with the threat, logically her thoughts should have been: Is it true what Samarth says? Will he get custody of the kids if the divorce happens. What happens if I don't sign the affidavit? Samarth will still be in jail, facing all those charges. Then, why would a judge give him custody of kids and not me? If she had given just a moment for a thought, she herself would find answers. She would realize that a judge would have many more reasons against giving custody of the kids to Samarth, than her. In fact Samarth is at her mercy for his freedom. If he's brought their relationship down to blackmail and bargains, then she has more bargaining power. And, then she could have taken a lawyer's advise, or if not spoken to someone, the police commissioner who is their friend, and she'd get a clearer picture. So, when she has better chances at custody, I certainly do not buy her excuse of lying because she feared the loss of her children.

On the other hand, if she'd perhaps lied because she didn't want to blow away the umbrella of family/father from above her children's head, then perhaps I would buy that excuse, even though I wouldn't want to stay married to someone like Samarth, or let the children grow up in in this irreparable marriage. Not everyone has the courage to destroy one's own family, and with most woman, husband, kids, family are a big weaknesses. But, either way, I do not condone her lying.

Well, I guess this is fiction. And, it's sympathy that is being called upon, here not logic.😊 The concentration is on a woman's pitiable and helpless state, even if she is shown to be without sense.








Ahh in that case we must disagree, because I, like Shobha, believe that choices are not all black and white but also grey. And in this instance Shobha's decision was in a grey area, between right and wrong.

I can see Shobha's pov. Feel her shellshock that blasted her mind into numbness. In that state logic was a reach too far. Shobha reacted from the gut. She grabbed the file, took an auto in the night and basically ran to give it to Tarun. That is not the action of a thinking woman.

Next morning on the stand when she could think, it was too late and she was pinioned by Ketan's questions on the stand, could not back out for her children and surrendered.

For me, Shobha's reaction was spot on, and beautifully portrayed by Sonali. She was overwhelmed and reacted accordingly.

Incidentally, I note that you too can sympathise with Shobha when you say: "if she'd perhaps lied because she didn't want to blow away the umbrella of family/father from above her children's head, then perhaps I would buy that excuse." For me, that would have been the less compelling of the two reasons to lie between a) to lose your children; b) have your children grow up without their father. In the second case I'd be tempted to say the sooner the better with a father like Samarth.



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: YMe11

I completely understand a woman's dilemma when faced with the prospect of dislodging the father from his pedestal in her children's life and shake the family foundation. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes. It's extremely frightening.


Therefore, I completely understand and accept the fact that she has taken part in her husband's crime because she didn't want to break her marriage, her home, and take away the father from her children. And, I wouldn't hold it against her for these are our weaknesses; wrong or right, at times we are compelled to take such steps for our children's sake.

But, I do not accept the fact that she lied because of the threat of her children being taken from her, and had no choice at all. I can understand an uneducated woman falling for Samarth's threat of taking the children from her in the eventuality of a divorce. But, an educated woman doesn't even have to go to a lawyer to know that a court will not give custody to a man, who is being tried out for treason, for which he could face imprisonment and severe punishment, and who is caught so clearly on tape sleeping with a woman who is not his wife, and above all, who is at the mercy of her false testimony to clear his name. I do not like it when people believe that just because a woman is a housewife she has no sense of what's going on in the world around her.These things are the first one thinks of, and if she needs to be sure, she can always approach a lawyer to understand her chances.

Even more so, when your husband has given you a bad wake-up call, when things have gone legal, and you know you have slimeballs like Tarun around you. It's always sensible to approach another lawyer discreetly and understand the pros and cons of the law.

So, Shobha lying to keep her marriage and family in tact is completely different from the fact that Shobha felt threatened and feared her children being taken from her.

YMe

Fully agree with you. It is not as if Shobha is uneducated or so. The reason given for her lying in court is too lame but then this is what a serial is all about, we should not expect intelligent mothers but more emotional and dumb ones who cannot judge a situation wand what I find frustrating is the fact that Shobha is even contemplating giving Samarth another chance despite knowing the first time that this was not a fluke case but that her husband is just a don juan taking advantage of his position to bed women around.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kiranpreethee

Fully agree with you. It is not as if Shobha is uneducated or so. The reason given for her lying in court is too lame but then this is what a serial is all about, we should not expect intelligent mothers but more emotional and dumb ones who cannot judge a situation wand what I find frustrating is the fact that Shobha is even contemplating giving Samarth another chance despite knowing the first time that this was not a fluke case but that her husband is just a don juan taking advantage of his position to bed women around.



Hi Kiran, I don't think thishas anything to do with Shobha's degree of education. The point is that the threat of losing your children is too enormous to think around. I am not saying that some women wouldn't have thought this through logically, because many would have. But Shobha didn't. And I understand her not using her brain in this instance, because she was simply not able to find the detachment, and the distance to do so.

Incidentally, even now, while going for the court hearing, Shobha, now fully conversant with her husband's sliminess is still hoping he'll surprise her and not think about himself. She's still not fully buried her love for him.

As Vikram said to Ketan, "why do bad things happen to good people.?" And as Shobha told him, "Everything's not black or white. It's also grey. And I am a mother first."
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Posted: 10 years ago
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YMe11 I do agree with you on so many points but I also think Shobha has always been a faithful docile wife. In the words of Samarth or is it Tarun she was just arm candy and not a savvy person. Her world was rosy complete with her two children and a slimeball husband who could do no wrong in her eyes...now she is trapped in a web of deceit and lies!
Poor Shobha...I want Superman Viku to come to her rescue...(in his superman PJs!!😆

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