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Posted: 15 years ago
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they need to sit and talk it out........provided even after their discussions simi doesn't go back to the same dumb decisions she has been making time and again.......and knowing abhi he will fully support his wife in her decisions but simi too needs to respect him and his existence in her life......
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes Ramas- I agree 100% that
as a married women many of us know that we go thru times in life when sasural take precednece over maika. BUT here in Simmi's life since she doesn't have saas-Sasur-Nanad to 'deal with ' at tHis Moment,She can at least utilise the time to set things right before it's toooooooo late??!! And I Don't think abhi thinks that Simmi's ignoring Him because as it's true that Women DONOt get good support or understanding from their Saas-Sasur,it's also true that life for a Woman after marriage Becomes a LOT EASIER If she only has her Husband in her 'sasural'.... So is the case with Simmi and Abhi needs to Understand (& I'm Very Sure he Surely Understands that too!) that simmi needs both her hubby as well as her Maayka's Support as ALL other women as many rules are pretty different for Men & Women..!! Women NEED their Mayka's Support as Women leave their home,have a 'New ' family n lots of other-different types of Struggles n challenges that MEN DON't NEED TO FACE So Women DO need the support of their mAyka For ever!!
Edited by iamindian - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: iamindian

LAILA- I Meant This line - please do not go somewhere where you are not welcome {Line fRom Ramas' Post} To me This means that Abhi's telling Him NOT to go To her Mayka n that is what My Post is about..... after all it's about Practical thinking about a Woman's future...It's Not practical to feel OverConfident because You've got a 'GoOD' Husband..... because we all know in Practicality Good Husbands change.... Who knows what's in store for Simmi..????????????

It is a request a loving huby should make because he does not want to see his wife misreable and crying all the time. He wants her to not to be insulted and humiliated as he has witnessed that many times. He cares that his wife deserves to be respected for what she has done in her mayka.and what is wrong with that? Abhi will never force simi to choose when he himself love her family so much.
A loving husband will care and protect his wife from all miseries and pain created by no matter whom. We witnessed he held manju;s hand when she was trying to hit simi.
I mean manju has a right to hit simi same as abhi has a right to protect his wife.
Which can tolerate his wife is beaten and humilited in front of the whole world and that is the point abhi should make to simi.
Edited by ramas - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Well Ramas..U know What Opinions N Point Of Views are very Natural to be different as Everybody's Thinking is Different... To ME Mayka IS and Will be My Mayyka NO Matter How good My Husband is.... because To Me A Woman's Mayka's Support is woman's Power....Very Similar to a Woman having security from a good job that she holds..... Women who go for jobs also have great loving Husbands n don't need their jobs to run the household BUT they keep the job Not Only because they need it while they stay married,.... But Because they MIGHt NEED It..... anyyyyytime- and also the background that She Holds a job gives her a good prestige n position in her Sasural.... I've seen this a lottttttttttttt in practical lives!!
I Know Simmi can get a Job anytime n she will but my point was NOT Job but I wrote the Job point to explain my 'Maayka' Point- Both JOB & Mayyka are important.... it gives Women more security which they obviously need as History says!!!!!
Edited by iamindian - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: iamindian

Well Ramas..U know What Opinions N Point Of Views are very Natural to be different as Everybody's Thinking is Different... To ME Mayka IS and Will be My Mayyka NO Matter How good My Husband is.... because To Me A Woman's Mayka's Support is woman's Power....Very Similar to a Woman having security from a good job that she holds..... Women who go for jobs also have great loving Husbands n don't need their jobs to run the household BUT they keep the job Not Only because they need it while they stay married,.... But Because they MIGHt NEED It..... anyyyyytime- and also the background that She Holds a job gives her a good prestige n position in her Sasural.... I've seen this a lottttttttttttt in practical lives!!

I Know Simmi can get a Job anytime n she will but my point was NOT Job but I wrote the Job point to explain my 'Maayka' Point- Both JOB & Mayyka are important.... it gives Women more security which they obviously need as History says!!!!!

dear,
u r absolutely accurate by highlighted lines😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: iamindian

Well Ramas..U know What Opinions N Point Of Views are very Natural to be different as Everybody's Thinking is Different... To ME Mayka IS and Will be My Mayyka NO Matter How good My Husband is.... because To Me A Woman's Mayka's Support is woman's Power....Very Similar to a Woman having security from a good job that she holds..... Women who go for jobs also have great loving Husbands n don't need their jobs to run the household BUT they keep the job Not Only because they need it while they stay married,.... But Because they MIGHt NEED It..... anyyyyytime- and also the background that She Holds a job gives her a good prestige n position in her Sasural.... I've seen this a lottttttttttttt in practical lives!!

I Know Simmi can get a Job anytime n she will but my point was NOT Job but I wrote the Job point to explain my 'Maayka' Point- Both JOB & Mayyka are important.... it gives Women more security which they obviously need as History says!!!!!

the point here is not having or loosing mayka. At present simi is not allowed there and they kick her out and then she cries. She cries to go there, She can wait till things calm down and may be manju will call her back with respect but why go when your mom says you are dead for me and you can not set foot in KB,
Why did simi said no to RS when he asked her to go there saying she will repsect mom's decision and next day she runs there to get humiliated by Nitu and neighbor.
At present they have enough troubles to tackle with so why add to it.
I respect your points and views as well but we are not talking about breaking up relationship here at all. But settting the priorities.
They were celebrating holi despite knowing simbhi has no place to go. even manju was happy,
Now should simi care about such mother who does not care if her daughter is alive or not? or where is she?
Edited by ramas - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ramas

I agree with you 100% it is not easy to forget your roots or sever ties. But It is not simi who did that her own mother siblings does not want that. Simi is not given that choice.

Do u think it is wise to cry about her mom's birhtday who announced her dead especailly when they should be thinking about getting out of that dhaba, getting clothes and shelter and makinng earning.Is this what woman;s suppose to do when they have nothing they can call their own.
Woman is called ardhangini who supports her husband in eerything in good times and bad. Simi is only interested in making bad time even worst.
A true loving wife will put everything behind her and encourage her husband and not turn her back what simi did and crying about her mother increasing more sadness and worries at this point.
as a married women many of us know that we go thru times in life when sasural take precednece over maika.
I will give you my own example which happned many years ago My dad has passed away 15 days ago and my FIL asked me to go to my SIL's sasural and ask them to perform her wedding in a week . They they had expected me to be a part of it in grand style and I had to do that since they wanted to use my presence as an excuse.
Imagine How I must have felt then . But I did that bcos that was my duty. Luckily that wedding did not happen that time as boy's mamu has passed away a month before my dad did. So they refused to have the wedding then.
But for simi it is her utmost duty to be by abhi and help and support him.
Abhi will never force or ask simi to severe ties with her maika when he himself love manju despite all she did to him.

Exactly Ramas. Simi needs to be thinking of where she is going to live, food, clothes etc instead of crying over Manji Ji. She has declared Simi dead afterall. Simi needs to pick up the pieces of her life, be a good woman, a good wife, and rise from the ashes like Abhi's love.

I don't think Abhi will be angry with her. I think he will be a little hurt but this sweet Abhi. He knows her better than she knows herself. Simi has to be more considerate of Abhi. He has given up everything for her. All they have now is each other. But you are right Abhi has to set some limits for Simi. If he doesn't show up at the Seethi home, he will welcome her with open arms when she comes back. Simi you are a married woman now and your main responsibility is to keep Abhi happy.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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She has declared Simi dead afterall.
ManjujI is Simmi's Own Mother after all......Mothers and fathers say LOTS OF RUDE THINGS But They necessarily Don't Mean them!! The Only people by whose Insult we Do Not Or Should not feel insulted are our parents..... yeah-If ManjuJi has told Abhi,their Son-in-Law something,He should take it very seriously But not Simmi... ManjuJi has told that my 1st child is dead out of sheer frustration n anger that her daughter disobeyed her but as some other mother ManjuJi is also pining to meet her daughter though her Ego is stopping her from calling Simmi inside the house!! That's it....This is Not So serious As Simmi should forget her mother,Hate her Mother,Not try to makeup with her etc etc.... after all Manjuji is her Mother...it cannot ever be that Other People r more concerned or their heart aches for us more than our Mother's It Can NEVER Be so......
Of course It's just My point Of View....
Edited by iamindian - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I totally agree with you Iamindian. Manuju is misguided but it is hard for a daughter, esp one like Simi who has such strong feelings for her mother, to be happy when her mother is so unhappy (whatever the reason might be), and it is natural for her to want to make up with her. Simi and Abhi's marriage has not been done is a traditional way, and we cannot expect them to start behaving like a traditional couple right away.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: daboo89

I agree with you about Abhi's responsibilities! But what about the kartavya Simi has towards Abhi? Does she need to take care of her family after marriage or is Abhi her priority? He has been doing all his kartavya since before marriage........When is it Simi's turn? I used to cry for Simi now it is too much... Espically after Manju announced her dead to her.

Good point Daboo - remember what Guruji said about conjugal rights and responsibilites - ek ka daitva (duty) doosre ka haq (right) and vice versa. What a simple and powerful way to put it 👏! He said that a relationship becomes imbalanced when one party is only doing his/her duty and the other only exercising his/her right to it.
I think that applies not only to marriage but all relationships. In Simi's relationship with her family she has been always doing her duty and the family have been exercising their rights over her - such a relationship cannot be fulfilling for both.
Now Simi is making the same mistake in her marriage - she is exercising her right over Abhi's love and loyalty and making unspoken demands of him all the time, while he goes on doing his duty towards her. This is again a lopsided relationship which will lead to a burn-out of the dutiful partner.
Going back to the topic, if I were Abhi I wouldn't be angry with Simi, having understood her psyche, but I would be very anxious that she is exposing herself to more hurt and humiliation and him too, that she is also not helping herself by neglecting her marriage. I would share this anxiety with her in gentle words when I find her in a calm mood. I would try to convince her that just as I (Abhi) am giving her time and space to manage her emotions, she should give her mother some time and space to come to terms with their marriage.
Guruji aap jaldi se Delhi aa jao!
Edited by Bana - 15 years ago

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