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Posted: 8 years ago
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I hate Mustafa so much, but wanna appreciate him for Yasarans' ko Choona laga kar nikal lene ke liye...Selim ki classy wife, Erdo ki classy Car & Yasarans ka class le kar nikal gaya...even for me (like FG) this class has no class, but Yasarans ki toh saans hain yeh class.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Mustafa is a hard core MCP & self-centered, greedy person...and, he described it him-self in his scene with Asu when he is informing her about FG filed rape case & his scene with FG when he wanted to ran away with her...So, he told the truth in the courtroom only for him not for FG.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I just hate this Mustafa. What he does and why he does, is something I can never understand. He is never faithful to anyone he knows or anyone who loves him. I can't bear him a moment now.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Both Vural & Mustafa are spineless, delusional morons. One believes he is remorseful n other that he loves FG. As someone had mentioned here earlier they just know how to make their Ullu seedha.
Mustafa only revealed that much info in court with which he thought, he can repair his image in FG's eyes. He didn't say anything against Yasarans. Greedy pig doesn't want to lose what he gained from them.
As far as Vural is corncerned he is full of only dialoguebaazi. Can't forget how he deliberately tried to decieve Kerim by saying he did commit rape, not once twice he did that. Thankfully Kerim had his doubts didn't completely believe him. That time neither Erdogan nor other knew abt it. that was his decision to decieve Kerim. He revealed d truth to Kerim only when he was sure that he was safe as Kerim had already married FG by that time.
When Erdogan attacked FG n threatened her at their home n his goons were beating Kerim what he did. Was just sitting there in car.
What the use of saying "Nafrat ho rahe ha khudse" afterwards.
Yesterday too he lied thru his teeth so calmly. I felt Selim was more nervous than him when lying.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Vural
As we are coming to an end of season 1, one of the main characters is also going to end.
Vural Namli started as simple carefree guy, enjoying the best things in life and ready to go for an ivy-league admissions.

He was like any other upper middle class next door boy. But a happy script went horribly wrong.
Yes he is Rapist No.3.
Yes he acknowledges to the heinous act.
Yes he suffered his own ways.

There can be several theories on why couldn't he come out to dispel viewers
Semsi-Leman
1.They as parents never realized the Richter scale of the crime. They just dismissed it as few rich kids having a "good" night with friends
2.They were busy in their personal lives...Leman with Munir, Semsi...dunno what! to check on the changed behavior of their "only" son.
3.When Vural walked in Aasu, Leman gave some idealistic bhashan and banished them.
4.When the Leman-Munir affair opened to Vural, Leman never bothered to confront and give her side of explanation to the affair.
She just assumed, the Vural is unhappy and sulked.No analysis for his changed behavior.
5.The affair blasted open in front of Turaner's and Yesaran's was humiliating.
6.They never handled it maturely, instead where seeking selfish comforts...either a divorce or moving out of the house. What about the "only" son?

They say...home is the first school. If this school has been shut for years...the question of parental tutelage is irrelevant.
Well you will argue..that Vural's was a luxurious house and never a home.
As per Oxford dictionary "Home is - The place where one lives permanently, especially as a member of a family or household.

Vural & his friends
1.Ever since he knows the deep depths of the crime, he has been suffering to remorse, pining for forgiveness and reunion with his friend Kerim and his parent.
2.But Erdo put tenter hooks on a weak Vural so that he doesn't confess to the crime. It worked.
3.Perhaps he knew the complexities of his father's professional entanglement with Yesaran's, his mother's affair gone kaput with Munir(aide to Yesaran's) who
would take revenge on his family.
4.Only if his parents' or a confidante realized the murky harassment of Yesaran's, he could have got the redemption.

Others
5.@Blyton said...maybe he was unsure of the life at prison, too attached to carnal cravings...
6.He wanted to run away from society...or just die..rather face a death by thousand cuts.

Its very difficult to understand proceedings of a human brain/emotions.
Maybe a medical intervention/counseling could have corrected his path of self destruction.
Maybe...

Dummy's dedication to the four friends...was that last time we got see them in a frame?

Days when
We'd fight, we'd fight 'til I would give in
Yeah, perfect disasters
We were reaching, reaching for the rafters
I remember, we were sleeping in cars
We were searching for OZ
We were burning cigars
With white plastics tips 'til we saw the sun
And we said crazy things like
I refuse to look back thinking days were better
Just because they're younger days
I don't know what's 'round the corner
Way I feel right now I swear we'll never change
Back when we were kids
Swore we would never die
You and me were kids
Swear that we'll never die

-One Republic

PS: Bugra your acting was par excellence. We enjoyed every bit.of your acting which stirred our emotions (besharmi too).Ofcourse...you rocked with your good looks, great clothes ...(that burgandy cardigan).Keep it up!

PS: This song has got stuck to me since few days. Listen&Enjoy!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#96
Some postivity...FG's flashbacks! rape to proposal, even she has flashback of injured Kerim...Kerim doesn't take his eyes from FG's face. He senses how every glance and every word from the accused and the witnesses affects her. But after proposal flashback, FG finally looks at Kerim with blank eyes, who was already looking her like always with you ❤️
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Dummy! Nice take on Vural's charecter...@blyton said he want Fokat ka Forgiveness & you mentioned, he wanted to run away from society or just die rather face a death by thousand cuts...but his commited crime was not just Fokat ka & b'coz he cummited the inhuman crime, his victim is facing society like face a death by thousand cuts...if he didn't think before commiting that crime, then how can he think about Fokat ka forgiveness.

Anyways, as @Dummy mentioned, Vural is result of his parents' parenting. I want to say that actually not only Vural; Selim, Erdo, Musti & Kerim are also (basicaly) reflection of their parents (actually parenting). ab mujhe ek Quote yaad aa gaya jo Kerim & Meryem ko dekh kar humesha yaad aa jata hai, "A man who treats him woman like a princess is a proof that he has been born and raised in the arms of a queen."
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@DefLeppard, your dummy guide for exam preparations was very precise. Only you could have written it this good. Also your take on Vural's character is accurate.

@sehar mehrotra, you are very apt about Leman getting the "besharmi" as an STD form Munir. I reckon that besharmi is not the only trait she got form Munir. I hope she rots in hell.

@whiterose29, I don't think there are many moms, or rather family members, who support the victims in such cases. They always support their sons. It's a very sad truth.

People are very selfish. Perihan, Hilmiye and Leman are the same. I think that they do get Fatmagul's sorrow. Everybody realises and recognizes her sorrowful life but everybody abides by the saying "pehle apna bhala karo, baad me dusre ka sochna". I guess it takes immense courage and dare to accept to lose everything and everyone in life for the sake of standing with the truth. We all know that people are generally not so daring and that's why heroes like Kerim, Fatmagul and Meriyam are among "one in a million" ones. Not only Perihan and Hilmiye are blinded by the love of their sons, its also their fear of losing the life they have, that makes them blind. Its the reality of every society. Before this horrific incident, most of the characters like Perihan, Hilmiye, Leman, Semsi, Vural etc seemed normal good people. I think the phrase that "In normal days everyone displays their best behaviour, its only when you give them power or put them in adversity, the true character of a person is revealed" is appropriate to describe them.

Talking about Mustafa, he is such a disgrace for mankind. I felt glad that he didn't testify against Fatmagul but again he did it for himself and not for her. Mustafa redefines selfishness. He just wants to earn Fatamgul's respect and love back. He actually doesn't care about her justice or struggle. Thank God Fatmagul has Kerim. According to me, the show doesn't serve Mustafa well. He should have been made to rot like some diseased pig in some dirty dumpster with no one to sympathize with him.

Vural is surely a confused guy. I think he is just a coward and very afraid of everything. I also think that despite everything he has done till now, he still has 0.0001% of humanity left in him. That's why he keeps dying everyday with guilt. Also his cowardice doesn't allow him to have the chance of redemption. Its good that he is going to die because such coward people don't deserve to live anyway.

I feel extremely satisfied that Fatmagul and Kerim have each other. All of you have already very beautifully described their relationship so I won't lengthen my post. Hoping to see their love evolve with each passing episode.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: NavyaKavya30


Yes,that's exactly where season one ended.
@Deflepord...Why did you come out of that restaurant in Banglore choked and didn't enjoy the food ??[/DIV]


Hey...Dialogue in the dark is a concept resturant run by the visually impaired. Hence the ambience has no light, we arent supposed to carry any light emitting displays ...camera, mobiles, tab etc.
The idea is to empathize with visually impaired folks.
I went in being very brave...but came out choked. We cant even sit 10mins without light & sight. So imagine these unfortunate people.

The staff &owner were kind &understanding our needs better than we understanding them. Hmm

Hence I dont want show e-valor in talking of such unfortunate people...physically disabled, acid attack victims, rape victims etc.
*Remembers Engin's write up*
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