Fatmagul Thread # 3 - Page 47

Agree with you on both counts, awesome show and indeed Erdogan's en evil mind...

Nice to see yet another newbie on this thread. Like you, I too am new here and it's a nice society to move into!

E&S getting bashed by inmates was on top of every wish list... too enjoyable to be missed out

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Btw this reminds me, remember the link given by Vidya2 in previous DT? It was Vural's hell, and there was a comment by some members saying that if he continued to torture himself each moment then the title might change to Vural'un Sucu Ne?

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Agree with @Rads_R here. Don't think Fatmagul's stepping out was foolish or unrealistic. Though it wasnt planned and she had stormed out on impulse just to get away from MQ's persistent emotional torture, even if she had consciously decided to take a stroll, I wldnt fault her for it. And that's not just because of her freedom/rights issue. That's also because there werent any perceived threats to her after the Yasarans were taken into custody. They cldnt dare harm her at this point coz they knew if something happened to her needle of suspicion wld be directly on them and their case wld become even more weaker. They weren't foolish enough to risk that. As regards Mustafa, after the disclosure of truth to him abt FG not having betrayed him with Kerim, no one perceived a threat from him either. FG cldnt have known that his mental state had deteriorated to such an extent that he still continued to harbour a resentment against her and blamed her for being with Kerim, despite being the one to abandon her. She cldnt have known that he wld be so far gone in lunacy that he'd go to the extent of kidnaping her or causing her physical harm. Only a person who is not completely mentally healthy wld think of doing so. As viewers since we have been privy to his twisted thinking and degenerating mental condition, our seeing him as a possible threat might make sense (though don't think even amongst us many wld have thought he wld go to the extent of kidnapping her at gunpoint and forcing her to be with him) but FG wasn't privy to that, hence it was natural for her to think he was no longer a threat. For her he was just an unscrupulous person who didn't mind working with anyone for money. She didn't have any reason to think he wld still be thinking of harming her. Moreover, she wasn't even aware that he too was in Izmir as he hadn't been called for the hearing.

As to her going to that old house, again she didn't purposely venture out to visit it. While walking absentmindedly she seemed to have realised that she was on the road which led to that structure. And as old memories came flooding back to her she sort of in auto pilot mode stepped in that direction. But again, even if she had decided to visit it consciously, don't think there's anything wrong with that. Everyone has their own ways of dealing with and exorcising their demons. Sometimes road to catharsis/healing requires one to face and deal with one's demons head on. For FG, Mustafa burning down that house was the most painful thing after the rape. Her going there and realising that house no longer meant anything to her ...that it cld no longer cause her pain, cld be an imp step fwd in her recovery process

Dont agree here. Rape can't be justified even if done under the influence of drugs or booze. Period. Not even when compared to what Mustafa did. The rapists and Mustafa both are dispicable here but the truth is while Mustafa may be a worthless piece of shit with zero integrity for having abandoned FG and for trying to make money from the same ppl who caused her harm, GANG RAPING someone even if it's under the influence of of booze and drugs is far far worse. Nothing can be worse or more morally degenerate than raping a person... as rape is not only abt violating the body of a person/inflicting worst kind of sexual violence on her but its also abt murdering a person's soul, her honor. Nothing can compare to the trauma it leads to... not even being abandoned by one's fiance. No matter how much we dispise Mustafa (and he is truly pathetic) for dumping Fatma and making money out of the situation, what those 3 did to Fatma was far far more horrific and soul crushing. There's just no comparison.

It's not abt who is a better person out of them when they are compared against each other. Its abt whose act was the most horrifying, most savage, most brutal, most gut wrenching and caused most damage to Fatmagul and that has to be the gang rape.

In fact these two cases shouldn't even be compared as they don't even fall in the same category to merit a comparison.