Fatmagul Thread # 3 - Page 46

Belated birthday wishes Vids... Hope you had a great day 🤗

@Vidya0906... thank you really. More than my writing, I thoroughly enjoy reading the seasoned opinions expressed here, which makes it a very productive thread, if I hadn't come across this forum, surely would have missed out many perspectives of Fg series... it's like collective viewing in many ways! Hard done by you may be by missing few episodes but try catching up on Ozee... the last few episodes have been hot pursuit and thick action, and so are the upcoming ones. Many suffer from Monday blues, Fg viewers love Mondays however...

@DefLeppard Happy belated birthday 🥳

You know guys Mustafa's mother Halide is Kaan's real mother 😊

Off topic...just catching up on the supreme court giving death sentence to an acid attacker Ankit.
And the celebrity news (both from selling & victim) perspective of Rangoli(Ranaut's sister).
Dejavu for dummy.
Rangoli's fiancee came to the hospital & called off the engagement soon after seeing her physical condition. Mr.Chandel her school friend finally married her etc.
There is a Mustafa & Kerim around each one of us.But am sure Mustis out number Kerims

IMO men cannot accept rejection. Its their alter ego which pushes to them insanity ...to convince themselves...they did it for LOVE!

Musti has already started his journey towards self glorified love aka acceptance/control freak

@whiterose (Aashi) , all the moments of fun, sadness, stupidity, blunders, righteousness, maturity, etc that we have with our friends are always something that can be referred to as "creating memories"(good or bad) , when we look into them from future. These memories are to be cherished or cursed forever on the basis of how that moment at that time went by and what consequences it caused. So, as you said that if we put aside the incident of Fatmagul for just a second, then the four friends were actually having a very wonderful moment which could have been turned out to be such a treasured memory forever. I think I disagree, because that unfortunate incident with Fatmagul was a part of that moment. What they did to her describes them and the moment. According to me, it doesn't matter if you are drunk, on drugs on out of your conscience. Nothing justifies the crime they committed. I think, your subconscious state of mind should never be so overpowering to you to change your character. What these four friends did to Fatmagul on that unfateful night was indeed a part of their character, their life, their morals and their conscience. A drunk man is not allowed or expected to murder someone or rape someone. They murdered Fatmagul's soul that night, snatched away all she had, her respect, honour, love and trust. They made her life a meaningless hell. My heart goes out for the real victim.

I hope you understand @whiterose . I couldn't stop myself from sharing this with you.

Also, though the character Kerim is utterly lovable, kind, brave and a sort of saviour for Fatmagul, yet I just couldn't forgive him for his fault on that dreadful night. Though he didn't rape and is on the path of full repentance, even then I am having hard time completely forgiving him. I just don't think that he yet deserves Fatmagul's love. Maybe she can trust her, but I am not sure of love. I believe my view will change as the show progresses and Kerim emerges out to be an ultimate hero. I guess some of you might agree with this thought. By the way, no hard feelings and I totally love Engin Akyurek.

Lastly, I have to write this, though some of you might disagree. Some of you pointed out that Fatmagul roaming around in the village alone is unrealistic and a bit foolish. I totally disagree. I don't think she should think even twice before going anywhere alone in a place she spent her entire childhood in, that too in broad daylight. We all might agree that some cautions should be taken at night by girls all around the world to roam freely but here Fatmagul did nothing wrong. She should not be afraid to wander the streets of her village in daylight. She hasn't committed any crime , then why is it expected of her. After being a part of such a soul-wrenching crime, I don't think that any sort of boundaries be put on her. Clearly she is resentful and rebellious more than ever. Its normally expected. She shouldn't be judged on going back to Mustafa's place or even the place where she was raped or anywhere as a matter of fact . She is obviously going through an emotional turmoil. She must have all sorts of feelings to be thought over. But it should not be expected of Mustafa or anyone to grab and kidnap her. All I am trying to say here is that she should be left out from any more judgements, boundaries and expectations. She has to win the battle for herself and roaming around freely in her village to recollect and rethink some old memories is a part of that tough battle. I have to admit that I am a big time feminist and literally can't endure to see girls all around the world suffer all degrees of crimes every day. This situation was pretty much similar so I had to express my views.

@rads. r: you have raised an interesting point about whether that incident is part of their character or not. Your point is, that it is. Though they were drunk, their actions cannot be forgiven or forgotten or cannot be separated from them, which is very true and I guess do sort of agree. Also, completely agree with your point about Fatmagul roaming around, she is much stronger, braver now and she has full right to do whatever she wants.

@Rads
FG set out of the motel to avoid MQ & her.histronics. It was totally unplanned.
Turk characters believe in taking fresh air. Same applicable here.
Yes...her native land, she knew all the gallies & short cuts to roam around.
Firstly before alighting the car, she proclaimed to be indoors to avoid nosy acquaintences talk to her.
Nextly she just stormed out...impulsively.
*Blame it on mixed emotions*havoc
Finally she visiting those places are not meant to be judged, however considering her vulnerabilities ...better to be avoided. If Maryem, Rahmi or Kerim were around they would have stopped her.

What.FG wants other than pisliks getting punished is very unclear*should i buy all clear shampoo?*

@rads.r... you seem to carry a part of Fg's rage and that's very natural. She's undergone a lot and needs big time recovery...Regarding her venturing out, I feel that was not on, given the current situation. That's not to say she should jail herself either. To be honest, Fg didn't on her own take a stroll to recount the horror, remember she herself said she doesn't want to be seen around since it's all soo gloomy... Only upon Muqaddas upsetting her she had to go out to find herself back. Also, if Kerim or Rehmi were around they wouldn't have allowed her to go since they really know the gravity of the current situation and the Yasran vultures all around them. This doesn't mean Fg doesn't deserve freedom and rights, which is what you seem to have misinterpreted as us saying so. It's just that, with her case hearings coming up, every bit of self caution helps in her turning up strong and sound to face courtroom aggression. Hope to have cleared your misunderstanding of our views.

@Rads- Yeah you're absolutely right that nothing can justify the crime committed by four drunk people. The fact that three raped a girl and one stood as a silent spectator was justified whenever it came to Mustafa coz what they all did was under the influence of drugs and alcohol... While Mustafa, even after being sane is showing what kind of a person he is. But other than this, the crime committed by the guys is punishable and they should be punished.