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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: khamosshhh

^ Well said 😊

I loved the last scene with the kids and how Zaroon says he has got everything and his family is complete and it just shows dat for him paramount is aualaad and not beta beti nd it makes u happy for Kashaf dat she got a husband who values her and her daughters.

Ya there is a long wish list from my side too.

Wish they had shown Zaroon knowing exactly about why Kashaf is the way she is. Though it is assumed that he knows, but even a small scene would have sufficed, just like how they show Zaroon telling Kashaf abt his mom's lack of involvement.

Wish they had shown grandparents in the last scene, especially Kashaf's mom, coz dey did finally show Kashaf telling her mom to come and stay with her, like Zaroon had suggested nd which she had initially refused to do so. It gives a nice message tht it should not matter whose parents it is, they should be equally looked after in their time of need and loneliness.

BTW I am reading the novel.😆

Heya Khamosh! 😳 but ur name plz?😕😆

@bold : Honestly that is the best thing ..cause it is not possible to know someone else even if u love them with ur everything! it takes lifetime to overcome ur own insecurities,to discover ownself..so when there is time to know someone else?? that's the beauty ..i loved it mostly coz Zaroon played a role in helping her,making her feel special,but still she is herself,she is not changed but a renewed person,i feel this much space is needed,her diary entries are her private words and she can't tell it to him,if she could have then why she is writing the diary??😳 and she loves Zaroon and Zaroon has completed her and helped her to overcome her taboos..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: blossom_loving

khamosshh in any way its in Hindi or English bcoz I don't understand urdu😭



The script is in English, but the language is Urdu, so I don't think it should be a problem.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Jes...

Heya Khamosh! 😳 but ur name plz?😕😆

@bold : Honestly that is the best thing ..cause it is not possible to know someone else even if u love them with ur everything! it takes lifetime to overcome ur own insecurities,to discover ownself..so when there is time to know someone else?? that's the beauty ..i loved it mostly coz Zaroon played a role in helping her,making her feel special,but still she is herself,she is not changed but a renewed person,i feel this much space is needed,her diary entries are her private words and she can't tell it to him,if she could have then why she is writing the diary??😳 and she loves Zaroon and Zaroon has completed her and helped her to overcome her taboos..



Call me khams or khamsy. Tht's what my frnds on IF call me.😃

Hmmm and I like how dey don't show Kashaf overcoming her insecurities suddenly. It's d constant love and assurance from Zaroon dat makes her secure.😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
Brilliant piece from Youth Ki Awaaz.com


5 Things Indian Television Industry Should Learn From The Roaring Success Of Zindagi Gulzar Hai'

September 8, 2014

By Shraddha Chickerur:

Amongst a host of things that bind us in the sub-continent, one is definitely our love for drama. Like many fellow Indians, I've been obsessively watching Zindagi Gulzar Hai', a Pakistani television series. Here are a few pointers that the Indian television industry definitely needs to pick up from the roaring success of this drama.

1. It is possible to tell a story in 26 episodes:
The television drama, adapted from a novel, is directed by Sultana Siddiqui, who has the distinction of being the first, and probably the only Asian woman, who has started a television channel. ZGH has managed to raise issues of gender discrimination, class differences, ideas around independence, marital relationships and what not. Most importantly, it is an elegantly depicted hate to love story.

2. There can be more than five women in a show, and none of them actively plot or scheme against each other:
The cast is an ensemble of talented actors from the Pakistani television industry, who have etched some very believable characters. Sanam Saeed is perfect as Kashaf Murtaza, the self made eldest daughter of a school principal, who struggles to make ends meet, and a father who has remarried for the want of a son. Sidra (Mansha Pasha), as the practical optimistic sister does justice to her role. The second wife of Kashaf's father is the only character that comes close to being stereotypical, and adds a vamp like element to the story. And the handsome Fawad Khan as Zaroon is more than pleasing to the eye.

3. A pessimistic lead actor, who is without make-up when at home, can actually work:
Sanam portrays the rather pessimistic but upright Kashaf beautifully. She is a struggler, always unhappy with life. She says a lot with her expressions. Hers as well as all other characters are very realistically portrayed, with perfect costumes.

4. A content driven television show can have a fan following:
The drama plays upon the contrasts between Kashaf and Zaroon's life and relationships. ZGH is about a delicate balance. On one hand, it questions the value placed in having a son, which makes Kashaf's father abandon his wife and three daughters. On the other, there are the independent women and clashes in what seems like a perfect world that Zaroon inhabits. While Kashaf has struggled with everything in her life, Zaroon seems to have it all.

5. Good camera work and dialogues need not be restricted to films alone:
Apart from the fact that Urdu is a pleasure to listen to, the dialogues are well written; the camera work adds to the quality of the show with no panning on each face in the room at every dramatic moment. The title track also sticks to your head.

One might not be satisfied with how the ends are tied as the drama concludes. That however, does not stop you from getting involved in the ruminations of Kashaf and Zaroon, as they routinely jot down their thoughts about life.


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Gopikaa

Brilliant piece from Youth Ki Awaaz.com


5 Things Indian Television Industry Should Learn From The Roaring Success Of Zindagi Gulzar Hai'

September 8, 2014

By Shraddha Chickerur:

Amongst a host of things that bind us in the sub-continent, one is definitely our love for drama. Like many fellow Indians, I've been obsessively watching Zindagi Gulzar Hai', a Pakistani television series. Here are a few pointers that the Indian television industry definitely needs to pick up from the roaring success of this drama.

1. It is possible to tell a story in 26 episodes:
The television drama, adapted from a novel, is directed by Sultana Siddiqui, who has the distinction of being the first, and probably the only Asian woman, who has started a television channel. ZGH has managed to raise issues of gender discrimination, class differences, ideas around independence, marital relationships and what not. Most importantly, it is an elegantly depicted hate to love story.

2. There can be more than five women in a show, and none of them actively plot or scheme against each other:
The cast is an ensemble of talented actors from the Pakistani television industry, who have etched some very believable characters. Sanam Saeed is perfect as Kashaf Murtaza, the self made eldest daughter of a school principal, who struggles to make ends meet, and a father who has remarried for the want of a son. Sidra (Mansha Pasha), as the practical optimistic sister does justice to her role. The second wife of Kashaf's father is the only character that comes close to being stereotypical, and adds a vamp like element to the story. And the handsome Fawad Khan as Zaroon is more than pleasing to the eye.

3. A pessimistic lead actor, who is without make-up when at home, can actually work:
Sanam portrays the rather pessimistic but upright Kashaf beautifully. She is a struggler, always unhappy with life. She says a lot with her expressions. Hers as well as all other characters are very realistically portrayed, with perfect costumes.

4. A content driven television show can have a fan following:
The drama plays upon the contrasts between Kashaf and Zaroon's life and relationships. ZGH is about a delicate balance. On one hand, it questions the value placed in having a son, which makes Kashaf's father abandon his wife and three daughters. On the other, there are the independent women and clashes in what seems like a perfect world that Zaroon inhabits. While Kashaf has struggled with everything in her life, Zaroon seems to have it all.

5. Good camera work and dialogues need not be restricted to films alone:
Apart from the fact that Urdu is a pleasure to listen to, the dialogues are well written; the camera work adds to the quality of the show with no panning on each face in the room at every dramatic moment. The title track also sticks to your head.

One might not be satisfied with how the ends are tied as the drama concludes. That however, does not stop you from getting involved in the ruminations of Kashaf and Zaroon, as they routinely jot down their thoughts about life.




@ Red - 😆😆😆 and believe me, I kept expecting Zaroon's mom or sister or Asmara turnung into one, but thank God no one did.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
khamosshh-Oh so you were Gauahar's fan.She was bashed left,right and centre in the forum.I was neutral towards her but by the end didn't like her much.I didn't really like anyone in the previous season.
I use to visit the forum to read Cruiser's posts.She was awesome.😉
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Posted: 11 years ago

Read this article recently and could totally relate to whatever the writer mentioned about subtle way of story telling with how Umera Ahmed penned ZGH.I recently watched Malaal(another engrossing work by Umera!) and I can see a pattern in the way she chooses to tell her stories.

From the article:

Subtle romance is not something you see often in recent storytelling. And, when you do, like in Snow White and the Huntsman (2012) or Alice in Wonderland(2010), people tend to view it as "underplayed" and "passionless." We expect fiery love triangles, drama, stolen kisses, and heated moments of sexual tension that may or may not lead to something more. Subtle romance is a thing of the past, right? Like Pride and Prejudice or Girl with a Pearl Earring.

Girl with a Pearl Earring is probably one of the finest examples of romance that, while obvious, screams with tension despite subtle scenes and little to no romantic gestures actually taking place between the lead characters. Subtlety in romance is an art, and if done right, it can ensnare the reader/observer more than any passion-filled, sex-crazed love story.

Avoid phrases that outright say what the character feels, like "I love you/him/her." As in writing in general, show their emotions through their glances, their behavior, and the hints in their speech or thoughts. Eventually, these phrases may be inevitable, but draw it out until they're necessary.

Cue: Kashaf's change in mood once Z calls her up in office and also when he tells her that she was being relocated to Islamabad.

  • Sensitivity to space and proximity. When a character is aware of just how close or far they are to their romantic interest, or simply start to behave differently once they enter the room, it gives more dynamic to the relationship.

Cue -Proposal scene: Z enters the room and Kashaf starts picking her nails.

  • Focus on small details. We don't tend to notice some unique things about people unless we pay them more attention than we should. If characters notice certain things others don't, it's a good sign there's something developing.

Cue- Kashaf sensed Zaroon's mood from his voice itself which he himself acknowledged later.

  • Laugh when no one else does. Even the lamest joke or silliest blunder should bring a smile or adoration to the person infatuated, because they are all the more sensitive to their behavior.
  • Cue- During the entire run of the show,I think Z has always kindof brushed of her rudeness while some other person would have been offended.I remember this scene where he's like "Bahut khushi hui apse milke" and she's like "Mujhe nahi hui" and the guy says I can understand and laughs it off.I rememberalot of instances like this b/w the two😆

Relate. Key word in relationship, right? The two people involved should share some interests or points of view, but more than that, they should get lost in them when they're around each other. This portrays their bond and melts away the surroundings, including others.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alACeI42Ob0[/YOUTUBE]

Cue: I think there was a topic in this forum itself earlier where the TM said how she noticed both ofhem totally engrossed in each other in this particular scene.The dupatta falls off K's head yet she is oblivious to this and so is Zaroon

Give a f**k. Yes, I said it. Characters that are in love actually have to care about each other, and will often show concern fervently, more so than expected, sometimes in outbursts that shock those around them and seem incomprehensible. This often creates dramatic irony when we as the reader may be aware of their developing feelings but those around them are not.

Cue: The library outburst. I feel somewhere Kashaf was letting her guard down with Zaroon and was warming up to him somewhat before she listened to what Zaroon had to say and his plot.The outburst was more intense in nature coz of K's hidden feelings I think.

Edited by -Symphony- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -R.P-

khamosshh-Oh so you were Gauahar's fan.She was bashed left,right and centre in the forum.I was neutral towards her but by the end didn't like her much.I didn't really like anyone in the previous season.
I use to visit the forum to read Cruiser's posts.She was awesome.😉



@ Bold - Yes I was and yes she was.😆😆😆

I too love Cruiser's posts and btw he's a guy.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Symphony - nice article and yes u hv pointed out the subtlety of romance very well between Z nd K. And I really loved the power cut scene. It was so romantic, but der was hardly any touching nd everytime Zaroon tried holding Kashaf's hand she wld extract it, but u cld feel the love between d 2 of dem.😳
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: khamosshhh



@ Bold - Yes I was and yes she was.😆😆😆

I too love Cruiser's posts and btw he's a guy.😆


Ooo..🤪 I missed on to that.
So then you are looking forward to this season.

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