Karan your turn - Page 2

Originally posted by: Ani_La_Iam

Unpopular post 😁 but going to make it anyway.

If the role was switched. Rawat did what Karan did and Karan was investigating the case.

You would call the investigation fair.

You would say that cadet telling the truth, even though they fear the agent a little, is brave.

You would also say, that Koel (forget her real intentions for a minute) leaking the video to show injustice being done, is the right thing to do. Because that is how in todays world injustice are being shown, by video being leaked.

My point is, Karan did use his power against a civilian, who wasn't a criminal or a spy for his own personal "revenge" ego, zidd or whatever you will call it.

Karan did torture Sid for 3 days. Even though a doctor and an agent advice him to let Sid go (because he was not doing well)

Karan continued, without having anyone checking up on Sid. That is being irresponsible and abuse of power/authority.

That is wrong!

The trouble Karan was in, was not because of Sid, but his own doing. That he is not facing consequences of his actions, is because of Sid.

So, Sid is not as selfish as people judge him to be. Because anyone else would a file a case against Karan....no matter what.

Sid is trying to make up for his mistakes, even though injustice was being done to him and he is in every right to ask for justice.

Now it Karan's turn to show that he is above his ego.

I hope that they will in the show make the message clear for the viewers, that Karan did cross the line and was in the wrong. Having an uniform doesn't give you the right to use your power against a civilian.

That message being send "CLEAR AND LAOUD" is important....I believe.

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@bold:- Exactly my point karan should also realise his mistake,, sid ko sahi karne me he has crossed his limit that too being in uniform nd representing academy in the absence of his senior,, by making rawat negative they can not white wash karan’s wrongs

And also sid should understand when a girl is saying NO then take it as an answer not as a quiz to crack

Originally posted by: Rose-13

@bold:- Exactly my point karan should also realise his mistake,, sid ko sahi karne me he has crossed his limit that too being in uniform nd representing academy in the absence of his senior,, by making rawat negative they can not white wash karan’s wrongs

And also sid should understand when a girl is saying NO then take it as an answer not as a quiz to crack

Wholeheartedly agree with both

To be totally honest. I wish they had not made Rawat "negative" but just grey.

Originally posted by: Ani_La_Iam

Well keep him in jail for a day and then throw him out. Or keep him in jail till Senior arrives, but taking away food and water....big NO!

Sid was in jail, not bothering anyone anymore. Being in jail is punishment enough for anyone.

Beside, Sanju kept coming...right? and she did ask Karan to let him go....right?

It had more to do with Karan's own personal issue than anything else. You could also say, that Sid was being punish for Karan's whatever feelings he has for Monami.

If Monami had not been in the picture Sid wouldn't had the punishment he got.

Plus Sanju can handle Sid, and Karan said that himself.

Fact is, there is no way that torture can be justified. As they said in the show. punishing someone which is bigger than the mistake is wrong. Even criminal do not get the treatment Sid did.

For a minute let us not view them as Karan, Siddhart, Sanjana.

Please just look at it as a scenario and share your judgement.

Owing to the severity of the punishment on Person B who is unused to these conditions, his health deteriorates leading to falling unconscious. We dont say that the punishment was harsh on his aide (person helping him in escaping).

What is your view of imprisonment/being put in jail? Is it a mere change of location?

Also, if staying in jail should have been punishment enough, he was happily enjoying the jail time. (On the show, Dilbaghji was giving him biryani there?)

In the scenario mentioned earlier, here is my take on it:

1. Each of us agrees that Person B is a culprit without arguments. Releasing him would not jave helped since he would have come back like he did in the past.

In that case, would that be right or just for Sanjana?

2. The Fault lies in the judgement of Person A on the level of tolerance of Person B and not the punishment itself. Person A could have given him food and water may be a day sooner.

He should be punished for this and he is punished. It is said, punishing one by his honour is equivalent to death sentence.

Suspension is a grave punishment for a soldier.

Enquiry and its results are too serious.

Now treat oneself as a judge:

3. Are we the same people who would break bones or book people for eve teasing, misbehaviour? We justify these reactions as completely humane because the action itself is unacceptable and inhuman in a civilized society.

The perpetrator may not realise his mistake (infact he may even just call it "jawani ka josh") but the fear of grave consequences will stop potential offenders to think before they act.

Isnt that the very purpose of Justice?

Karan is judgmental so is Monami.

Karan's judgements are clouded with his preconceived notions but his heart gets soft towards Monami for obvious reasons amidst all these Sid got burnt obviously in addition with his own stupidity n impulsiveness. But Sid has realised his mistake and said sorry multiple times to several people. Where Karan is yet to realise his own set of mistakes.

Karan needs to see both Monami & Sid in a different light only that will encourage him to work upon his flaws.

Monami being the girl has a easy way out but Sid being the guy needs to work more to be in Karan's good book.

Contrary to that Sanjana isn't as judgmental as Karan n Monami.... She tries to look at the bigger picture like WHY a doctor like Monami is in a relationship with someone like Sid? Her WH questions differentiates her from MoRan. That's why I like Sanjana more character wise.

Sid wants people to value his words, his feelings, his wishes, he is kind of wants to take the charge of his own life, wants to do what he thinks he wants... He is very clear about that. He also wants Sanjana n Monami to trust his words, trust his feelings.... May be kinda self oriented of him but a person who wants everyone to value his feelings would be the 1st one to value other's feelings... Thus he cleared Karan's name.

The reason that I made the post in which I switched the characters, was for people to understand that Karan did wrong and if it has been someone else you would have agreed on that. It wasn't to compare the two. One is negative and the other " the hero" so no comparison.

In the episodes I just felt they where somehow glorifying the whole thing and Sanjana talking about "the truth" and so on.

It bothered me. Because the truth is Karan did cross the line. So I thought if I switched the characters, people may see that.

Anyway, I am really excited about the upcoming track because it seem like the story will now start.

Originally posted by: Ani_La_Iam

To be totally honest. I wish they had not made Rawat "negative" but just grey.

Yes a negative nd positive character makes one villain nd other hero nd we as a human fall for hero,, but the world is not just black nd white,,, lets hope for something good from writers

So far rawat has come as negative character so we are hating him but for koel i still can’t hate her yes dislike her for her act and still hopping to hear it from her as why she did this? But whatever reasons given she should realise one can not be selfish to this extent where our act can ruin someone’s reputation that too to a soldier whose job is selfless whose uniform is his pride

The only thing I will say is. It not about what Sid did wrong. We know, he knows and apologize and tried to make it right. It Karan's turn now.

What is your view of imprisonment/being put in jail? Is it a mere change of location?

NO it not change of location. Jail is never fun and Sid was trying to make Bala feel good because Bala ended in jail because of him. Bala talked about he could not sleep and that why he created all that atmosphere.

About the Sanju and Sid then I don't think Sid was being disrespectful. Him arranging a surprise was because he found out she was his tattoo girl. He believed that they had a connection. Simple. He thought she will feel the same as he did.

He doesn't know that she came because she thought it was her finance, he thought she came because she liked what he did.

After that he was in jail. Sanju came to meet him and then he tried to explain his feelings and apologize for the surprise. He kept his distance, through out the conversation and did not touch her. He only wanted to explain, his honest feelings for her because people misunderstands him.

He didn't force her to do anything. He was trying to understand and figuring out what the problem was, what her feelings is.

So I seriously don't get in which way some people think he is being wrong. Yes he is totally in love with Sanju and she may not feel the same way. But he hasn't cross any lines or been disrespectful toward her. Try to watch the episodes again.

Look at his point of view. Sanju come to meet him in jail. If she dislike what he did, she would not come.

She stayed with him when he was sick, if she dislike him, she wouldn't had stayed.

Most important he has no idea about her fiancé.

He is getting mix signals and trying to figurer out what her feelings is. Because her action and words doesn't add up.

When she did give the gift back....he back off right?

Originally posted by: Ani_La_Iam

The only thing I will say is. It not about what Sid did wrong. We know, he knows and apologize and tried to make it right. It Karan's turn now.

What is your view of imprisonment/being put in jail? Is it a mere change of location?

NO it not change of location. Jail is never fun and Sid was trying to make Bala feel good because Bala ended in jail because of him. Bala talked about he could not sleep and that why he created all that atmosphere.

About the Sanju and Sid then I don't think Sid was being disrespectful. Him arranging a surprise was because he found out she was his tattoo girl. He believed that they had a connection. Simple. He thought she will feel the same as he did.

He doesn't know that she came because she thought it was her finance, he thought she came because she liked what he did.

After that he was in jail. Sanju came to meet him and then he tried to explain his feelings and apologize for the surprise. He kept his distance, through out the conversation and did not touch her. He only wanted to explain, his honest feelings for her because people misunderstands him.

He didn't force her to do anything. He was trying to understand and figuring out what the problem was, what her feelings is.

So I seriously don't get in which way some people think he is being wrong. Yes he is totally in love with Sanju and she may not feel the same way. But he hasn't cross any lines or been disrespectful toward her. Try to watch the episodes again.

Look at his point of view. Sanju come to meet him in jail. If she dislike what he did, she would not come.

She stayed with him when he was sick, if she dislike him, she wouldn't had stayed.

Most important he has no idea about her fiancé.

He is getting mix signals and trying to figurer out what her feelings is. Because her action and words doesn't add up.

When she did give the gift back....he back off right?

I know we have a tendency to mix characters, the face behind the character. Hence i said, forget Karan, Sanjana and Siddhart.

Look at the happenings from a neutral person. Analyze the situation.

First of ALL, he hasn't apologised. Siddhart is leaving because he is left with no choice and as a result of Mrs.Batra's insistence.

Secondly, why are we forgetting that Siddhart was given a choice in his punishment to apologize and leave the Academy. Was that not a reasonable ask? If it is, then the core issue is, he doesnt realise his mistake at ALL?

Starting with definition.

1. A NO is a NO, simple. Misbehaviour neednt be by touch alone. If that were to be the case, eve teasing would not be considered wrong.

His perception was that Sanjana feels for him the same way that he does and hence he arranged ALL that he did. Sanjana refused to feel any connection. That should be it. He need not have to know about whether she is engaged or not or who is her fiance. Now, by persisting his ways, is he not imposing his feelings on her? Is that not forceful behaviour to accept his love?

Furthermore, is it a joke that you claim someone as your fiancè, call someone on a date and expect no retaliation?

2. The first time, Monami requested/emotionally blackmailed her to go and explain to Siddhart and ask him to leave which she unwillingly obliged. Sanjana understands what it is to be without food or water and respects the little privileges one is blessed with and hence out of sheer concern she went to assess his health. (Concern and love are completely different). She even made him understand that if something were to happen to him, the reputation of the Academy and Karan would land in trouble. He still did not understand. Does it mean he doesnt respect Sanjana's point of view or her choices? Is this his deep love? She stayed with him in the ER not out of love but out of the guilt Monami has been trying to blame her of. Even in this time, she clearly stated, to get well and leave. Monami warned him of his deteriorating health and the repercussions he will have to face and the problems that are created by him in her life. Siddhart doesnt even bother about Monami's issues, her problems? Would you not agree that Siddhart is so full of himself that there is no room for others POV?

Soch ke dekho!