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Posted: 17 years ago
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........The boys team....or more like this is the reason why I dont like Bakthyar.

So today he was asked who was the most and least challenging in the girls team....he said the most challenging is Karishma cause she's "undoubtly the best dancer". I agree that she's a FANTASTIC dancer, the best? Now I might not agree but she is a fantastic dancer and will be a great challenge without a doubt. When asked whose the least challenging, he said MOUNI would be the weakest! MOUNI??? Is he being serious?? In my opinion, she's the strongest player in the team and even if you dont agree with that, you must agree she is a very strong player so to call her the weakest was such a slap in the face! HE's only saying that cause Mouni answered him back once and hurt his little ego! Ever since then I have noticed he's very bitter against her. Geez!

Also I did love Mouni's answer to the same question.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I agree. From day one, everyone kept on going about Bakthyar but I think he's very heavy on his feet. I dont find him to be an excellent dancer. Chaitanya is much better. I really hated his comments against Mouni. that was really uncalled for.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: shaina81

I totally agree with u......If he actually thinks Mouni is the weakest, he should've come in any of the Khallas round against Mouni....but no..all he can do is bite his nails in tension when mouni dances and then just coz she replied back to his sarcastic comment, he decides to call her weakest dancer....I don't know y do the judges and everyone consider him the best among the boys team..in my opinion, Chaitanya is the best dancer and Bakthiyaar is just one of the strong contenders among many...
MOUNI ... Way to go Girl..U ROCK...

Exactly my point. I haven't watched the epi yet but that is something that wasn't called for "if" Bakhtiyar made a comment like that. I have said this before as well that Mouni is without any doubt one of the strongest players of the girls' team and even the boys are well aware of it, that's including Bakhtiyar. Mouni has her weaknesses but still when it comes to her performances, she outscores each and every one of those. This is purely my take on the question posed to Bakhtiyar, I feel that even Narayani is much much better than Karishma. Karishma is a good dancer but she doesn't have that elegance/grace while performing, its more of an entertaining factor she gets away with. On the other hand, according to me, Narayani is the strongest player of the girls' team, better than even Mouni due to her expressing factor. She emotes really well along with performing her dance with great finese.
Regarding Bakhtiyar, he should be a little more diplomatic at times too, it doesn't hurt. Its good that he says what he feels like but it does get a little over the limit "most of the time". But but but.......that's what the show is about; to create arguments, tensions between each other. That's what adds all the mirchi masala in the concept, and they probably do it intentionally. That is exactly why they ask such questions from Bakhtiyar.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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1 thing more ,people who r ''proud''of being straightfwd they rarely can bear the truth 4 themselves..........same goes 4 this guy but hes seemingly in habit of puking up the stuff cuming 2 his mind...........feeling free 2 comment on ne1,regardless hes celebrity or not,is suthing not admirable.......but i think whtever hes trying 2 say on tv,if he tries 2 do tht in real life ,2,3 fracture tu zeroor hongey isko.....
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Posted: 17 years ago
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^^ Agree with above point. And when someone comments on his honesty, he gets very offended. Like grow up dude! I don't care if he was trying to be honest, his comment was totally uncallled for. Mouni could have also named many "weak" players from the boys team cause the boys team does have weak players but she didn't. But for Bakthyar to call Mouni the weakest was really very rude since she's one of the strongest from both the girls AND boys team. (for me shes THE strongest but thats just my opinion). He really needs a reality check and get his ego in control. I am so glad now that Mouni answered him back that one time and hurt his ego!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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wow....after reading all your posts i feel either you guys really resent Bakhtiyar...or you have read him too well in a distorted reality show like this...one of you rightly said that the show needs a big mouth like him to climb the charts and raise such discussions,,,
now coming to my opinion...i dont think even mouni felt that insulted by the comment neither did any of the other girls or judges..and if you hear the whole thing he said -'depending on the choice of song if its a strong song with energy she would be weak and so would be delnaz'....pretty straight and honest opinion in my eyes..as far as what mouni said i agree she was at her diplomatic best...i have no issues with that..coz thats her...and then thats bakhtiyar ...take it or leave it.. so guys enjoy the show...and dont analyse everything...
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Richa1234

Exactly my point. I haven't watched the epi yet but that is something that wasn't called for "if" Bakhtiyar made a comment like that. I have said this before as well that Mouni is without any doubt one of the strongest players of the girls' team and even the boys are well aware of it, that's including Bakhtiyar. Mouni has her weaknesses but still when it comes to her performances, she outscores each and every one of those. This is purely my take on the question posed to Bakhtiyar, I feel that even Narayani is much much better than Karishma. Karishma is a good dancer but she doesn't have that elegance/grace while performing, its more of an entertaining factor she gets away with. On the other hand, according to me, Narayani is the strongest player of the girls' team, better than even Mouni due to her expressing factor. She emotes really well along with performing her dance with great finese.
Heyyyy Richaaaaa!!!! Yeah Bakhtiyaar did make a comment as such, but I think it was more like based on song selection and stuff then Mouni & Delu would be his weakest contender. I guess he put himself down in his own answer. Although I think Mouni gave a very good answer when asked the same question. She said basically along the lines that you should never underestimate your opponent nor should you be over confident because anything can happen in those two minutes of performance. Hey Richa really you think Mouni is less expressive???? I think Saiyaan was the most expressive dance of ZND. And this is me saying as a choreographer and as an audience. One of the main things I emphasize on is expressions and in that song she went about and beyond in expressions during that song. I think that is one of the reasons I think she excelled Chaitu in that Khallas round because Chaitu had loud expressions. One does not need to make very loud expressions in order to emote, and I think that is something not many performers take into consideration when dancing. I also think narayani has her expressive and non-expressive days, her tashan dance to Dil cheez Kya hai required more emotion and she lacked a little bit in that department. But then again this is just my view! 😊
Regarding Bakhtiyar, he should be a little more diplomatic at times too, it doesn't hurt. Its good that he says what he feels like but it does get a little over the limit "most of the time". But but but.......that's what the show is about; to create arguments, tensions between each other. That's what adds all the mirchi masala in the concept, and they probably do it intentionally. That is exactly why they ask such questions from Bakhtiyar.
I think the show is more about fun and humor between the sexes. I think the boys just make it much more serious and drama-fied then it actually is and supposed to be. Bakhtiyar and diplomatic...HO HI NAHIN SAKTA Richa! 😆-Shweta

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Posted: 17 years ago
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exactly!!!!!
i really wanted 2 discuss on this matter
he respected karishma's dance...ok agreed
but 2 tell mouni the weakest!!! oh my goodness!!! she is THE best among both the teams and i think the judges also think tht
everyone knws hw fine she dances
and 2 tell her the weakest was just insulting himself and his sense of dance
and i am really sorry 2 say he doesnt have any gud sense of dance if he had thn he didnt have made tht comment on mouni!!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i didnt watch the first few episods so could someone tell me when did mouni answer back ????
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: pyaridilwalino1

Exactly my point. I haven't watched the epi yet but that is something that wasn't called for "if" Bakhtiyar made a comment like that. I have said this before as well that Mouni is without any doubt one of the strongest players of the girls' team and even the boys are well aware of it, that's including Bakhtiyar. Mouni has her weaknesses but still when it comes to her performances, she outscores each and every one of those. This is purely my take on the question posed to Bakhtiyar, I feel that even Narayani is much much better than Karishma. Karishma is a good dancer but she doesn't have that elegance/grace while performing, its more of an entertaining factor she gets away with. On the other hand, according to me, Narayani is the strongest player of the girls' team, better than even Mouni due to her expressing factor. She emotes really well along with performing her dance with great finese.
Heyyyy Richaaaaa!!!! Yeah Bakhtiyaar did make a comment as such, but I think it was more like based on song selection and stuff then Mouni & Delu would be his weakest contender. I guess he put himself down in his own answer. Although I think Mouni gave a very good answer when asked the same question. She said basically along the lines that you should never underestimate your opponent nor should you be over confident because anything can happen in those two minutes of performance. Hey Richa really you think Mouni is less expressive???? lol, ya I don't find her expressive much. That's the only piece of criticism I have in regards to Mouni's performance. She is a very good dancer but her face is blank almost half of the time. I liked the "Saiyaan" performance too but at the same time I felt her emotions weren't appropriate, they looked a bit over-done there. She does try to emote but her expressions just don't seem to come out right. Other than her Saiyaan act, the remaining performances done by her had the same issue, they lacked that "expressive" quality, I hate to say it but her face looks blank most of the time. But I still say that she is a very good dancer, its just that one thing if she works on, she can go places. She even sings quite well, a talented girl.
When I say "expressions", I refer to what Madhuri does. I can't think of any other actor from BW industry who can be put at par with her. The way she emotes, the way she brings out those feelings on her face are beyond words. She doesn't even have to dance to work her magic on the audience, her face says it all. If you say like that, then even Aishwarya is a great dancer but what separates Aish from Madhuri is the emotive quality. Everytime I watch "Dola Re", I don't even see what Aish is doing, its only and only about Madhuri in that song and in every other song of hers. That's the magic of EXPRESSIVE Madz.
I think Saiyaan was the most expressive dance of ZND. And this is me saying as a choreographer and as an audience. One of the main things I emphasize on is expressions and in that song she went about and beyond in expressions during that song. I think that is one of the reasons I think she excelled Chaitu in that Khallas round because Chaitu had loud expressions. One does not need to make very loud expressions in order to emote, and I think that is something not many performers take into consideration when dancing.
I on the contrary found Chaitanya's expressions way "better" than Mouni, better not perfect. For me, it was his steps that lacked the charm and the finese. According to me, Chaitanya has a very expressive face and a lot of credit for his dances goes to that quality of his. If you take his "Yoon Shabnami" act, it was more because of his expressions that it clicked with the audience. Had it not been for that factor, he wouldn't have looked that believable and impressive. Similar issue with Bakhtiyar, he doesn't have even a single expression on his face which makes him look like a robot; an artificial dancing nut on the stage.
I also think narayani has her expressive and non-expressive days, her tashan dance to Dil cheez Kya hai required more emotion and she lacked a little bit in that department. But then again this is just my view! 😊
Coming to Narayani, I agree there that her Dil Cheez hai Kya performance wasn't the best one in terms of the expressions quality, but whatever she did was very emotive, very believable. I guess the major problem with that act was that there wasn't anything new, most of the steps were repetitive and it brought a sense of monotiny in the entire performance. That made at least me compare her with other past performances on a similar theme as that like rekha's and madhuri's from devdas. When you see a similar style, you tend to bring in comparisons, and that's what happened with her. Otherwise, she did justice to the seductive act there, again that's my 2 cents.
Regarding Bakhtiyar, he should be a little more diplomatic at times too, it doesn't hurt. Its good that he says what he feels like but it does get a little over the limit "most of the time". But but but.......that's what the show is about; to create arguments, tensions between each other. That's what adds all the mirchi masala in the concept, and they probably do it intentionally. That is exactly why they ask such questions from Bakhtiyar.
I think the show is more about fun and humor between the sexes. I think the boys just make it much more serious and drama-fied then it actually is and supposed to be. Bakhtiyar and diplomatic...HO HI NAHIN SAKTA Richa! 😆-Shweta
Ya, the show is about fun and humour but I feel that lately, they have started bringing all these arguments and what not in the show to get more trps or whatever. At least Manish's incident was a big disappointment and then Bakhtiyar, when everyone knows that he has a habit to give his opinion on pretty much everything, then why ask him in the first place. They ask him intentionally and then the arguments start. He has confessed it himself that he has a habit to dominate and speak out his mind, what else can the guy do now? lol I wonder how Tanaaz tolerates him.

Edited by Richa1234 - 17 years ago

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