Some perspective a week and a half into the show... - Page 2

Originally posted by: livepraylaugh

Very detailed and balanced post about Abir, Mishti and Kuhu.

Mishti: I have always seen her as strong individual who knows what is wrong and what is right not in between or indecisive like Abir who always forgives his dear ones when they are wrong and continue to build strong relationships. After breakup with Abir, her role kind of changed into people who want to fit into family and impress people which I never seen from the beginning. Also I don't understand who wants to write a letter/ want to say sorry to molested person family. He is molester and what she did is right for her own safety. I don't think any person who think about saying sorry. She is being turned into typical dramatic types instead about being strong women which we saw in the beginning who is not ready to marry at first sight, fight for her love against everyone, stop her own engagement for her self-respect and never felt sorry about it, slapping Kunal for his mistake and never felt wrong just because he is Abir brother.

Abir: He is not able to balance everything at this moment because his stress is too much from keeping his wife safe and he is very close to everyone in his family and they expect a lot from him as he provided them from the beginning. He is not able to share his pain with anyone atleast Mishti has Abir. I don't know how he is okay to marry off his sister to molester family without any hesitation as he doesn't know anything about the family as they met once or twice.

Kuhu: She always tend to hide everything from the beginning and no one is able to understand her problems/feelings because she never shows them to people even her dear ones. She always expected unconditional love maybe first priority from her family, Kunal etc but destiny had other plans she was/is/ will always get second or third priority and it is part of life, she needs to move on. Kunal rishta came to her first and she was dreaming about him. Her mom saw that and still her family doesn't even think about her feelings. Her mom and dad have no voice in their family. Kunal is never going to give unconditional love or first priority to her and she knows that he married her only for his brother and will not think twice to leave her for his brother or family. Oh girl, your family and husband is not giving you first priority, in what world Abir will give his first priority before his wife is beyond my understanding.

She doesn't want to apologize to the molester, but his family. I don't think she's really behaving out of character here. It is a crazy idea, but totally in character for Mishti. She is strong so long as she does what she thinks is right, and that's the problem here. She's not able to do that and that's knocking her backwards.

Yes, Abir is more alone than Mishti in all this. That's an interesting take, but I don't see how a whole family can be blamed for one person's behavior. He does need to check into the family though now that he knows, but he just connected the dots. He can't really raise any concerns until he finds some solid information to back him up.

In general I like kuhu's character. We all make mistakes, but we need to learn and grow from that. That's what I don't see with her. She is continuing to project everything wrong with her life on Mishti, and it is frankly getting irritating now. I want the old Kuhu back, who was mostly sensible. But I guess that's unlikely with Jas back as well.

Hey daya !

Simply beautiful post ! ❤️

Agree with the take on all characters , each one of them is tangled in a mess created by their own actions, choices and circumstances ,don't wish to much deep in explaining that 😆

sometimes I believe makers are giving us a message that in relationships please communicate delicate things as quick as possible otherwise it's a mess for life 😆😆

Also agree on the balance of negativity and positivity , while some characters were always negative for mishbir and would remain so , the ones who actually supported them are missing at the moment ..the track wants to make mishbir especially abir feel all alone and then make him rise against all odds 😃😃

I am counting now tick tock tick tock 😎

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Originally posted by: Onyourface

Hey daya !

Simply beautiful post ! ❤️

Agree with the take on all characters , each one of them is tangled in a mess created by their own actions, choices and circumstances ,don't wish to much deep in explaining that 😆

sometimes I believe makers are giving us a message that in relationships please communicate delicate things as quick as possible otherwise it's a mess for life 😆😆

Also agree on the balance of negativity and positivity , while some characters were always negative for mishbir and would remain so , the ones who actually supported them are missing at the moment ..the track wants to make mishbir especially abir feel all alone and then make him rise against all odds 😃😃

I am counting now tick tock tick tock 😎

I

Need something to keep me connected Uru

@bold - so true

@italics - yes, it's a mix of actors not being available and what they have decided for the track I think. I don't expect that everyone should side with MishBir, but everyone waiting to trip them up is just unbearable to watch when they're already emotionally drained. Anyway, you already know that. Why am I telling you again? 😊

Originally posted by: angelfire78

She doesn't want to apologize to the molester, but his family. I don't think she's really behaving out of character here. It is a crazy idea, but totally in character for Mishti. She is strong so long as she does what she thinks is right, and that's the problem here. She's not able to do that and that's knocking her backwards.

Yes, Abir is more alone than Mishti in all this. That's an interesting take, but I don't see how a whole family can be blamed for one person's behavior. He does need to check into the family though now that he knows, but he just connected the dots. He can't really raise any concerns until he finds some solid information to back him up.

In general I like kuhu's character. We all make mistakes, but we need to learn and grow from that. That's what I don't see with her. She is continuing to project everything wrong with her life on Mishti, and it is frankly getting irritating now. I want the old Kuhu back, who was mostly sensible. But I guess that's unlikely with Jas back as well.

I am not implying that whole molester family is bad but Mishti might be the reason for his brother death eventhough her reasoning is correct. Loved one can't take death easily eventhough he is wrong as love and affection play a major role. Ketki is going to get married to his brother and Abir has personal experience of revenge a person might take for their loved one( Kunal did fake marriage for Abir). So in future, she might face a lot of problems. My bad that I didn't explain it properly in my previous post.

Where is Kuhus husband ?

How come he hasn’t returned?

Originally posted by: silvermoonlight

Where is Kuhus husband ?

How come he hasn’t returned?

The actor has not started shooting yet.

Originally posted by: angelfire78

Has it only been a week and half since the show restarted? I don't know how it can feel as if things are moving at such a fast pace, and at the same time stuck in second gear .

Kuhu - What has been done to Kuhu's character is a little bit of a personal disappointment to me, but I'm trying to go with what we have been shown. While her projecting her woes on Mishti grates, there are good reasons for her to be generally disappointed with her life. She is not getting the attention or importance she deserves from her husband - and she put up with a lot from him. She compensated by becoming an indispensable member of his family, but with Mishti joining the family and Kunal's birth truth out in the open, her place in the family is also in jeopardy. Nothing in this justifies what she has done or is doing to Mishti, but if you've been shifting the blame to cope since childhood, how can you suddenly change that behavior when the person you deem responsible for all your problems is right there to blame and the people around you egg you on instead of reassuring you that things would not change?

While it's truly annoying to hear her say that Mishti came between her and her bro, Mishti did (and should!). Kuhu thought she and Abir decided to #keepitseparate, and expected that to continue even after he married Mishti. His reaction to knowing she spiked his drink was to tell her to apologize to maasi and keep the truth from Kunal. He's seen her yelling at Mishti before and done nothing about it. So her surprise and hurt when Abir turns on her is very real and even expected. If Abir were not under pressure from other things, he would not behave like this. Since Kuhu has no idea about all that, she just uses her usual punching bag to cope when this happens. She knows things are not ok with Mishti and tries to find out why. I'm so glad they stopped the fake sisterhood and snooping in one day because the way she did it in the open is so much more her style.

Daya 🤗

What a wonderful summary and character analysis! I guess at this point we all need something to hold on to and to keep ourselves still connected to the characters and mainly the show...

You have wonderfully summarized the past week and a half and the characters' core behavior...

Haha, yes, it is fast paced but even with this supposedly mystery track, we haven't moved past their original saas-bahu-saazish saga that had started after MishBir marriage, so feels like we are still stuck in the second gear!

I agree with almost everything that you have mentioned here, so won't repeat it. Couple of points I do however want to elaborate on...

Kuhu: I too am thoroughly disappointed with her character. I wonder if her character would have shaped up differently if Ritvik had joined the cast and the whole equation of being away from husband for 3 months was not in the picture... but I guess we shall never know that.

For me, her character has gone from "I kind of understand you but I don't like how you bully Mishti" to "you are making sense during your divorce period" to now "you are just insufferable"!

Granted, she could be disappointed with her life, with husband being away, her parents being away and the general stress of pandemic. And like you said, blaming all her problems on Mishti is what she has been doing from day 1, so doing it now is no surprise!

And I agree, her surprise and hurt when Abir doesn't take her side and turns on her goes with her character since so far her bro has always turned a blind eye to everything she has done and has in fact asked others, including his wife, to adjust with her instead of calling her out on her bad behavior!

But at the same time, this smugness and sense of entitlement that she has with respect to Abir is just appalling to me! She knows she can get away with anything with him, including insulting his wife again and again and he won't react!

And Abir's casual approach to her nasty behavior with Mishti just adds to it!

It always makes me wonder, on what basis, she thinks Abir should put up with anything and everything she does?! What is so great about their bond?! Aisa kaunsa mahan kaam kiya hai usne Abir Bro ke liye that she thinks Abir shouldn't react the way he did recently?!

I know many bring this argument as a justification for bro bond that she helped him during AM breakup - but that's just lame in my opinion. She has back-stabbed him and ignored his happiness far more times than helping him!

She helped him 2 times and both times it was NOT out of love for bro Abir! One time she helped to protect her brother Nannu and the other time she unknowingly helped by disclosing Kunal spiking the drink in anger! And if we strictly go by this help logic, then Abir has helped Kuhu far more times than she has helped him! He is the one who motivated her to start respecting herself during her divorce track, helped her with her business, stood up for her so many times before and after she got married to Kunal... the list is long.

What I fail to understand is why her help to Abir is seen as some great act compared to these numerous instances when Abir has helped her!

Her Keep It separate approach was great but that was the extent of it... Not enough to justify this one-way bro-bond, the makers have failed to show any depth to their bond. It's totally okay for two characters to not be romantically involved and share a great bond... but in case of Abir and Kuhu, it is just not balanced - he keeps on indulging her and she continues with her entitlement!

@bold: This! This is the biggest reason I am yet to celebrate the breaking of this fake bro-bond.

If Abir was not under pressure, he would have been okay with Kuhu's behavior to Mishti and she would have gotten away with abusing his wife?! What kind of toxic bond is this?!

In this current track, they are taking Kuhu's character too far, it is senseless and irredeemable now in my opinion and Abir is pissed with her for the most part - but it will take one little act of help on her part for makers and Abir to come around and say sorry to bro for his current behavior attributing it to the stress he was going through.

Why can't they show Abir calling Kuhu out in normal circumstances, if not for anything else, for her sheer rudeness and bad behavior with Mishti! Is this how people talk to each other in real-life? If not as a husband, he needs to voice his opinion on Kuhu's rudeness as a family member.

I know this is not what this thread is about and am sorry to have digressed... One time, on some other thread you had asked me to explain why I thought the bro-bond was one way. I always meant to reply, but it never happened... well, until today! I got carried away, felt the need to get this out.

You can totally ignore my ramblings Daya, I will understand 🤗

Agree on the rest of them and about the excessive negativity being overwhelming. I wrote half of my post the day you posted the topic and half today. Even between that period of couple of days the negativity has skyrocketed and the show now has zero light hearted moments. Cast and crew are risking their lives, but in these stressful times, I am not sure how long the viewers will be inclined to watch this overtly negative drama. Hope they tone it down as it is getting excessive and repetitive!

Originally posted by: angelfire78

The actor has not started shooting yet.

Is he coming back?

Originally posted by: heer193

Is he coming back?

No idea. Kuku or Kunal AT may have more information.

Originally posted by: SheThought

Daya 🤗

Kuhu: I too am thoroughly disappointed with her character. I wonder if her character would have shaped up differently if Ritvik had joined the cast and the whole equation of being away from husband for 3 months was not in the picture... but I guess we shall never know that.

For me, her character has gone from "I kind of understand you but I don't like how you bully Mishti" to "you are making sense during your divorce period" to now "you are just insufferable"!

Granted, she could be disappointed with her life, with husband being away, her parents being away and the general stress of pandemic. And like you said, blaming all her problems on Mishti is what she has been doing from day 1, so doing it now is no surprise!

And I agree, her surprise and hurt when Abir doesn't take her side and turns on her goes with her character since so far her bro has always turned a blind eye to everything she has done and has in fact asked others, including his wife, to adjust with her instead of calling her out on her bad behavior!

But at the same time, this smugness and sense of entitlement that she has with respect to Abir is just appalling to me! She knows she can get away with anything with him, including insulting his wife again and again and he won't react!

And Abir's casual approach to her nasty behavior with Mishti just adds to it!

It always makes me wonder, on what basis, she thinks Abir should put up with anything and everything she does?! What is so great about their bond?! Aisa kaunsa mahan kaam kiya hai usne Abir Bro ke liye that she thinks Abir shouldn't react the way he did recently?!

I know many bring this argument as a justification for bro bond that she helped him during AM breakup - but that's just lame in my opinion. She has back-stabbed him and ignored his happiness far more times than helping him!

She helped him 2 times and both times it was NOT out of love for bro Abir! One time she helped to protect her brother Nannu and the other time she unknowingly helped by disclosing Kunal spiking the drink in anger! And if we strictly go by this help logic, then Abir has helped Kuhu far more times than she has helped him! He is the one who motivated her to start respecting herself during her divorce track, helped her with her business, stood up for her so many times before and after she got married to Kunal... the list is long.

What I fail to understand is why her help to Abir is seen as some great act compared to these numerous instances when Abir has helped her!

Her Keep It separate approach was great but that was the extent of it... Not enough to justify this one-way bro-bond, the makers have failed to show any depth to their bond. It's totally okay for two characters to not be romantically involved and share a great bond... but in case of Abir and Kuhu, it is just not balanced - he keeps on indulging her and she continues with her entitlement!

@bold: This! This is the biggest reason I am yet to celebrate the breaking of this fake bro-bond.

If Abir was not under pressure, he would have been okay with Kuhu's behavior to Mishti and she would have gotten away with abusing his wife?! What kind of toxic bond is this?!

In this current track, they are taking Kuhu's character too far, it is senseless and irredeemable now in my opinion and Abir is pissed with her for the most part - but it will take one little act of help on her part for makers and Abir to come around and say sorry to bro for his current behavior attributing it to the stress he was going through.

Why can't they show Abir calling Kuhu out in normal circumstances, if not for anything else, for her sheer rudeness and bad behavior with Mishti! Is this how people talk to each other in real-life? If not as a husband, he needs to voice his opinion on Kuhu's rudeness as a family member.

I know this is not what this thread is about and am sorry to have digressed... One time, on some other thread you had asked me to explain why I thought the bro-bond was one way. I always meant to reply, but it never happened... well, until today! I got carried away, felt the need to get this out.

You can totally ignore my ramblings Daya, I will understand 🤗

Agree on the rest of them and about the excessive negativity being overwhelming. I wrote half of my post the day you posted the topic and half today. Even between that period of couple of days the negativity has skyrocketed and the show now has zero light hearted moments. Cast and crew are risking their lives, but in these stressful times, I am not sure how long the viewers will be inclined to watch this overtly negative drama. Hope they tone it down as it is getting excessive and repetitive!

I wonder too how they would have gone about it if Ritvik was around, but if they wanted to show her this way, they could have shown Ritvik being mad at her for the pills fiasco or the fight at the resort, or something else. I don't have a lot of hope there.

@bold - Totally! But, like I said, Abir has taken her side over his brother's and also not taken her to task about how she behaves with Mishti. But not just Abir, everyone (including Mishti most of the time) take her behavior very casually. It's as if they want this normalized - Kuhu is rude to Mishti in general and please don't make a big deal of it.

Bond ka one-wayness I don't know if I agree. Sab bonds ke liye zaruri nahi ki equal contribution ho. That they like each other in general and help each other out should be enough. And for her, priority list is clear - what she thinks family wants comes even before Abir. So she will only help him when it doesn't conflict with family's interests. In her mind, that is not back-stabbing. I'm focusing on when she did help him even though she didn't think it was a good idea. I think we are confused because Kuhu herself is confused - she wants to help Abir but not Mishti. That's why this bro bond was always bound to falter if Kuhu and Mishti couldn't mend their relationship. Abir may be OK with most things but his priority is always Mishti.

Current track

@bold italics - yeh toh ho hi nahi sakta 🤗

I know the , it's hard to hold on. I'll write what I wrote on another post for Uru and Ruhi

har kisi ki zindagi mein uski apni ek jung hai, har kisi ko khud hi ladna padega

aur hamara jung hai yeh show jhelna until abir gets going