MISHNAL PROGRESSION - Page 2

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Beautifully written ruhi, makes us all to see how far these two have come ! Their relationship has taken a wonderful turn , it's good to see them on balanced terms rather than at opposite terms , kushti se kab mishnal ban gaye , pata hi nahi chala !

While reading your post , some things came in my mind which makes me wonder is the bond really that deep that you are trying to portray? I have a few points to make and this is not really my attempt to start a debate but just explaining my side , since I am also one of the AT member who criticised the too sweet too soon mishnal bond !

1. I don't really think kunal did give a thought on mishti revealing his birth truth and apologising for it or not , all he was concerned about what really abir thinks about it , the turning point for him came , when abir confronted him for nishant's drink and said you can't really be my brother , at the same time parul revealed to him how abir let mishti go and choose kunal making him realise the love and concern his brother has fot him , I remember he was really stressed with abir's "tu mera bhai nahi ho sakta " statement and after a long thought , he sent a sorry message to abir which abir ignored , later when he saw meenu threatening abir, he decided to take a stand for his brother and support him ( a gesture to apologise to him for what he had done) , it was his moment to be abir nanko's again and he started supporting misbbir solely because of that....this explains the stands he had taken for abir in front of mahs family during the nishmish shaadi sequences , he did it only when he saw his brother falling weak and short of words , nothing more nothing less , though he became neutral towards mishti but not more than " mishti hamare life mein hum jo chahte hai zaruri nahi ke vahi ho , lekin jo hota hai vo sahi hota hai " ...that's all !

see kunal is angry at mishti for revealing his truth but kuhu convinced him that mishti and nannu are close and she cant nannu hurt and clearly explained kunal , if he didnt spike drink then mishti never open her mouth in this matter.

so kunal registered her words but when parul supported mishti then kunal couldnt take it, so when parul revealed abir can go to any extent to protect him , then his insecurity is gone and he analysed how abir still loves mishti and even before relevation of truth kunal knows still mishti loves abir and she is not in ,love with nannu...

for make standing with abir not only after meenu threating him, he decided in his room that both abir and mishti love each other and he wants mishti for his bhai, when meenu threatend he also used her way and said he is choosing mishti for his bhai, the person who never want abir to choose mishti...

I: for u the dialouge is neutral but for the dialouge is best till date, he assured mishti and gave her strength because he know mishti met abir prev night and its tough for her, so he shown his support...

2. The company was not given by his own choice , that was something that meenu asked him to do so and since for kunal, meenu and abir have been their top most priorities , he did what he was asked too , if kunal was really in for a thought to do something for mishti, he would have done it himself right? And would not really take it back when mishti returned the papers! Neither he said I am really willing to work with you even though she returned the company, its absolutely clear the company thing came only because meenu asked him to do so

yes uru, company was not given by his choice but the person who made prenup papers just to keep mishti away from taking RJV wealth, the same person is ready to give RED PEAR which he made it, so its the progression for me, even mishti returned first he is hesitant and hurt too but later he took it, because the intention was never who will be company owner, the intention is of giving his fav thing to the person who he taught as gold digger and its shown his acceptance for me.

3. Regarding kunal asking mishti about parul and her parents , why it came as a shocker was because kunal has been really hesitant to speak on the topic , it's mostly with kuhu or abir that he shares these kind of thoughts, that's why the scene gave me an impression of "too sweet too soon " but I do believe that since he has already spoken with abir on this and with kuhu too in the past , he just wanted a perspective from mishti too since he was thinking to take a big decision in public

see, kunal is the insulted mishti regarding naman and broken family tag, so he thought she might help him in putting her views or how she dealt the truth, but never convo with mishti nor with abir made kunal to atke decision in public, its the situation where again reporters came infront of parul and kunal was striken by prev day issue, ofcourse kunal took mishbir suggestion but he never thought of working on it until and unless he seen reporters again...(this is what i observed from kunal's character)

4. Kunal would have never made an insensible demand to mishti to give away her mandap at first place if he really thought about her at the moment, it was more to take care of kuhu's demands there ...(he asked it for kuhu because he knows he is at fault in their marriage, of course he thought of mishti and abir but his guilt over powered him and if kuhu could have asked situations would have differed but here kunal asks on his wife behalf and he knows mishti might dis agree but to his suprise she agreed with out any tauntram or anything just for abir or u can say constant rant of kuhu, mishti is cause for kuhu's fake marraige(which i dont agree but many will think like that))

5. Unlike your presentation of how kunal is the bridge between abir and mishti, I see it as abir being the bridge between mishti and kunal, he is the connecting link here , both kunal and mishti know how much importance they hold in abir's life and many things are forgiven from both the ends for abir's sake only ...I am yet to see how their bond survives if we put abir absolutely out of the picture

they bonded for abir for sure but seeing the situation kunal taking his steps for both of them, mishti is hesitant when meenu asked to plan red pear aniversary with everyone opiniona nd mishti is hurt with abir but she agve in and then when she is about take her hand, kunal held for them, the person who cant spare anyone when it comes to his bhai, is giving space for mishti and abir relation, when he said, i use to balace between maa and bhai but now im giving that responsibility to you and he even left the person who spiked abir's coffee just because abir dont want it, he even went against meenu in this, but if mishti asked kunal i want to find out, then he would ahve helped her.

6.. The resort thing , kunal started voicing out the truth and explained things to kuhu and abir only when he saw how hurt and weak brother is feeling at the moment and he stopped kuhu when he saw she was going overboard , then he revealed the truth to them on how mishti isn't at fault ..

uru... u are abir ki uru and u know abir is not that person who listen to anyone when he is anger or when he thinks what he is doing right, abir is hurt when he left mishti at resort and even kunal want to go for mishti and even want to convinvce abir but he knows its not the time (my personal feeling is kunal could ahve stopped abir in resort it self, i really didnt like it but by seeing kunal and abir i understand their doings)

Again , what I am trying to say is whatever understanding I have of kunal's character , he has meenu and abir as his top most priorities, even parul and kuhu come after that for him so you can really imagine where mishti stands ....

i dont know where mishti comes in kunal's life but he is giving her the importance she deserves and for me he might take mishti's side too leaving abir... if show want to show mishnal bond...

he already proven by going against meenu in suppporting abir or haldi day of nishmish or shivratri pooja day when he bought abir to home on mishti's insistence...

I do see a good progression in their side though but yes certain things looked forced to me for sure

Nevertheless I am happy to see them on good terms though ..but I can't really get the mishnal hype

Originally posted by: ruhi19

thanks riya...

i agree with u..without seeing her kunal want to know about his bhabhi from abir's words and he is ready to accept anyone but meenu's influence, his ego and shwet plan of manipulating things amde kunal blind and didnt even see any thing...he only saw how much abir love mishti and he always wants him to be first for abir, but mishti came first so it hurt him and he shown his anger on mishti...

when truth is out he realised where it went wrong and took his steps for betterment of everyone...

Agreed ruhi, Better late than never, Not only kunal, Everyone must redeem themselves At one point 👍🏼

Originally posted by: riya27

Agreed ruhi, Better late than never, Not only kunal, Everyone must redeem themselves At one point 👍🏼

Originally posted by: Sarcastic_me

it is more performance oriented actually . Y should I misunderstand u ? because believe me I preferred tashan of kushti more . Der scenes were lit and their confrontation scenes r turning point of d story

But how I see d story my guess is dat first he was helping mishbir because he felt guilty . Now I feel he is kind of neutral towards her because even after knowing d truth of their break up mishti not even for once argued with abir or held Kunal guilty . She never said d truth to her family which actually would huv helped mishbir . Dat actually changed his perception ABT her . Dat's it

But even now dis bond is dependent on abir . Kunal respect her as a person . Which is evident when he asked ABT d family and acceptance to mishti , it's not ABT bond but ABT mishti as a person who has gone through this . He sees her as a sensible person .

when he was requesting meenu to let go of d incident after dat d conversation between Kunal and mishti he was explaining her to balance between meenu and abir because from now onwards it was mishti's work to lookout for abir

Dan resort incident he supported mishti because he felt mishbir deserve dat vacation after what all dey went through because of him . He doesn't want his brother to sacrifice everything everytime

Well dat's how I perceive their scenes ryt now .the bond between Kunal and mishti is yet to develop . It's just mutual respect for each other

May be sometimes the tone comes across as too critical so I thought i should clarify from my side 😆

I do see things way too differently here

1. Mishti didn't knew the entire truth about break up at first place to reveal anything to anyone , she knew about kunal's birth truth pre leap , she knew abir is hiding something but she couldn't complete the picture , she got to know the break up truth in the very end that too when abir told her and it was very late for her , she did decide to give up but later when it became the need of the hour , she revealed it to BM before running away from nishmish shaadi , also kuhu also knew about kunal's truth but kunal didn't check if she Is revealing to mahs or not ....he wasn't that concerned about it , if he was then along with mishti , he should be thankful to kuhu also for keeping his secret a secret but I didn't see it coming from his side at all , the most he can be thankful to mishti is not saying to mahs that he was the one who spiked nannu's drink because we all know how possessive mahs get when it comes to nishant !

Bold 1 - again, the focus is abir, that's what I am trying to say ....if I remember correctly, mishti was visibly upset in the scene but kunal mostly didn't notice to ask her either , that's what I said, they bond over abir at major parts !

Bold 2 - tell me one thing, if we go by kunal's words , he knew mishti wasn't at fault last night only before leaving the resort , if his priority was to really give a vacation to mishbir, why at first place allow abir to even sit in the car .. he knew mishbir were fighting right ? He could have revealed it all well in time , may be he was waiting for his big brother to cool down a bit , but he really revealed it only when he saw kuhu being extra judgemental and abir getting totally lost ...so yeah again the priority was abir though

So , yes I do agree there is a positive and a welcoming change in their relationship and definitely kunal respects mishti as a person and is accepting towards her , he definitely followed her advice and apologised to parul when mishti made him understand, that was an awesome scene but I am yet to see the "depth" of the bond , I hope one day I will be able to hype them too over and above their performances ... till then Work In Progress 😎 And yes of course I want the bond to go stronger !

More than mishnal I am generally happy with the way kunal's character has progressed in the show ...I mean the progression is remarkable 🥳

Originally posted by: Onyourface

May be sometimes the tone comes across as too critical so I thought i should clarify from my side 😆

I do see things way too differently here

1. Mishti didn't knew the entire truth about break up at first place to reveal anything to anyone , she knew about kunal's birth truth pre leap , she knew abir is hiding something but she couldn't complete the picture , she got to know the break up truth in the very end that too when abir told her and it was very late for her , she did decide to give up but later when it became the need of the hour , she revealed it to BM before running away from nishmish shaadi , also kuhu also knew about kunal's truth but kunal didn't check if she Is revealing to mahs or not ....he wasn't that concerned about it , if he was then along with mishti , he should be thankful to kuhu also for keeping his secret a secret but I didn't see it coming from his side at all , the most he can be thankful to mishti is not saying to mahs that he was the one who spiked nannu's drink because we all know how possessive mahs get when it comes to nishant !

Bold 1 - again, the focus is abir, that's what I am trying to say ....if I remember correctly, mishti was visibly upset in the scene but kunal mostly didn't notice to ask her either , that's what I said, they bond over abir at major parts !

Bold 2 - tell me one thing, if we go by kunal's words , he knew mishti wasn't at fault last night only before leaving the resort , if his priority was to really give a vacation to mishbir, why at first place allow abir to even sit in the car .. he knew mishbir were fighting right ? He could have revealed it all well in time , may be he was waiting for his big brother to cool down a bit , but he really revealed it only when he saw kuhu being extra judgemental and abir getting totally lost ...so yeah again the priority was abir though

So , yes I do agree there is a positive and a welcoming change in their relationship and definitely kunal respects mishti as a person and is accepting towards her , he definitely followed her advice and apologised to parul when mishti made him understand, that was an awesome scene but I am yet to see the "depth" of the bond , I hope one day I will be able to hype them too over and above their performances ... till then Work In Progress 😎 And yes of course I want the bond to go stronger !

More than mishnal I am generally happy with the way kunal's character has progressed in the show ...I mean the progression is remarkable 🥳

Sorry 😊if I come across too critical . Even I am telling u dat der bond is solely based on abir. Their bond has not developed yet it's just dey became cordial.

I may be wrong but as far I remember mishti didn't tell BM while running away from shaadi. Even in d Mandir infront of other people when she choosed abir Der also she didn't reveal anything. When she could huv easily said

bold- Kuhu I guess till now don't d reason of break up . She just know Kunal is illegitimate. It's not ABT keeping secret . It's dat she can use it and tell her family y abir broke up with her dat would huv made it easy for mishbir. Yet she didn't

Well dat's how I perceive Mishnal

Originally posted by: ruhi19

uru... im happy with their progression, its not blinded by things but their progression is organic where they didnt have sugar coated talks or masti talks but they always had truth and confrontations. the bond based on truth dont need to hype... truth it self has that power to make it hype...

see kunal is angry at mishti for revealing his truth but kuhu convinced him that mishti and nannu are close and she cant nannu hurt and clearly explained kunal , if he didnt spike drink then mishti never open her mouth in this matter.

so kunal registered her words but when parul supported mishti then kunal couldnt take it, so when parul revealed abir can go to any extent to protect him , then his insecurity is gone and he analysed how abir still loves mishti and even before relevation of truth kunal knows still mishti loves abir and she is not in ,love with nannu...

for make standing with abir not only after meenu threating him, he decided in his room that both abir and mishti love each other and he wants mishti for his bhai, when meenu threatend he also used her way and said he is choosing mishti for his bhai, the person who never want abir to choose mishti...

I: for u the dialouge is neutral but for the dialouge is best till date, he assured mishti and gave her strength because he know mishti met abir prev night and its tough for her, so he shown his support...

Bold - I would have happily believed you ru , if for once a monologue or even a slightest of remark from his side would have given me a hint that it was the exact moment for him to think like that for mishti , the trigger for him was abir's statement "tu mera bhai nahi ho sakta" to prove that wrong , kunal supported abir , even went to the extent of going against meenu ...remember when kunal's immediate reaction when mishti reveals him the truth , the first person he met was abir, and the only question he asked him was " am I your nanko or not ? " ...its very clear even over meenu , kunal favours abir ! So yes the whole helping mishbir was for abir, definitely he became neutral towards mishti , but there was no personal motivation, if he was in your words, we all know how vocal kunal is , Hume pata hota !

yes uru, company was not given by his choice but the person who made prenup papers just to keep mishti away from taking RJV wealth, the same person is ready to give RED PEAR which he made it, so its the progression for me, even mishti returned first he is hesitant and hurt too but later he took it, because the intention was never who will be company owner, the intention is of giving his fav thing to the person who he taught as gold digger and its shown his acceptance for me.

Yeah that was a good poetic justice happened in the story, the one who gave prenup was the one who gave company papers too , regarding his intention , we didn't even get a scene on how meenu exactly convinces kunal and how he agreed to it , so it's all an assumption here ...also if you remember in the car scene mishti said I will help meenu in the office something and kunal was rather shocked so its difficult to believe what you said ru...we need more clarity to jump to these conclusions!

he asked it for kuhu because he knows he is at fault in their marriage, of course he thought of mishti and abir but his guilt over powered him and if kuhu could have asked situations would have differed but here kunal asks on his wife behalf and he knows mishti might dis agree but to his suprise she agreed with out any tauntram or anything just for abir or u can say constant rant of kuhu, mishti is cause for kuhu's fake marraige(which i dont agree but many will think like that))

Exactly, the focus was more on being a husband there than a devar , he was surprised though , see that's what I am trying to tell you there was not a thought how mishti was feeling or anything, he was thankful about it and that's that ...

they bonded for abir for sure but seeing the situation kunal taking his steps for both of them, mishti is hesitant when meenu asked to plan red pear aniversary with everyone opiniona nd mishti is hurt with abir but she agve in and then when she is about take her hand, kunal held for them, the person who cant spare anyone when it comes to his bhai, is giving space for mishti and abir relation, when he said, i use to balace between maa and bhai but now im giving that responsibility to you and he even left the person who spiked abir's coffee just because abir dont want it, he even went against meenu in this, but if mishti asked kunal i want to find out, then he would ahve helped her.

The reason he decided to let the coffee matter go was because of abir, in fact kunal convinced mishti to let the matter go was because of that only , I did see mishti was visibly upset there but kunal didn't notice much to think , he did advice mishti to take care of abir, again the base of their conversation was abir, that's why i am keen to see how their bond survives if abir is at the opposite end , filhaal I just see them neutral and accepting each other and being pleasant, the bond is in a initial phase and its progressing....

uru... u are abir ki uru and u know abir is not that person who listen to anyone when he is anger or when he thinks what he is doing right, abir is hurt when he left mishti at resort and even kunal want to go for mishti and even want to convinvce abir but he knows its not the time (my personal feeling is kunal could ahve stopped abir in resort it self, i really didnt like it but by seeing kunal and abir i understand their doings)

I have made a point to pooja about this too , do read in the above post if you can

i dont know where mishti comes in kunal's life but he is giving her the importance she deserves and for me he might take mishti's side too leaving abir... if show want to show mishnal bond...

he already proven by going against meenu in suppporting abir or haldi day of nishmish or shivratri pooja day when he bought abir to home on mishti's insistence...

Kunal and mishti are definitely on good terms and are coming together for all the good reasons , however I am still yet to see their depth ....for kunal it was relatively easy to choose abir over meenu cuz even though he attempted to separate mishbir, his understanding was that he was doing it for the betterment of abir as kunal didn't think high of mishti, most of the times his concerns were with abir, but him choosing mishti over abir is extremely doubtful though, there are so many factors in between ...too early to judge that and I seriously wish aisi situation kunal ke liye aaye bhi na !

Sorry ru , this also doesn't really convince me about the depth of the bond ...but as I said the progression is there but not that smooth ...we would see how well they bond over something other than abir !

Originally posted by: Sarcastic_me

Sorry 😊if I come across too critical . Even I am telling u dat der bond is solely based on abir. Their bond has not developed yet it's just dey became cordial.

I may be wrong but as far I remember mishti didn't tell BM while running away from shaadi. Even in d Mandir infront of other people when she choosed abir Der also she didn't reveal anything. When she could huv easily said

Kuhu I guess till now don't d reason of break up . She just know Kunal is illegitimate

Its okay yaara 🤗 Difference of opinions hote hai yaar

Actually before running she did reveal the break up truth ....I also remember BM's dailogue too " yeh Meenakshi ji apne hi beto ke saath aisa kaise kar sakti hai " ....she definitely revealed

Yes , but whatever kuhu knew she never revealed it to mahs and frankly speaking kunal didn't bothered to know who knows what , he himself was coping up to come to terms with his birth truth

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Its okay yaara 🤗 Difference of opinions hote hai yaar

Actually before running she did reveal the break up truth ....I also remember BM's dailogue too " yeh Meenakshi ji apne hi beto ke saath aisa kaise kar sakti hai " ....she definitely revealed

Yes , but whatever kuhu knew she never revealed it to mahs and frankly speaking kunal didn't bothered to know who knows what , he himself was coping up to come to terms with his birth truth

Bold I think she said abir broke up because of bigben not d reason dat's y even she was schoked when it was revealed ( p.s I watched all those episode in fast forward because it was very boring and hilarious . Whole climax of nanny track)

If u ask me Kunal birth truth should huv been shown with some seriousness . It was like what Meenakshi was worried ki yeh Ghar toote jayengya and all it became a joke . What abir feared what will his brother will do and all

Le Kunal dancing next day on title track

It became a joke

Originally posted by: Onyourface

see kunal is angry at mishti for revealing his truth but kuhu convinced him that mishti and nannu are close and she cant nannu hurt and clearly explained kunal , if he didnt spike drink then mishti never open her mouth in this matter.

so kunal registered her words but when parul supported mishti then kunal couldnt take it, so when parul revealed abir can go to any extent to protect him , then his insecurity is gone and he analysed how abir still loves mishti and even before relevation of truth kunal knows still mishti loves abir and she is not in ,love with nannu...

for make standing with abir not only after meenu threating him, he decided in his room that both abir and mishti love each other and he wants mishti for his bhai, when meenu threatend he also used her way and said he is choosing mishti for his bhai, the person who never want abir to choose mishti...

I: for u the dialouge is neutral but for the dialouge is best till date, he assured mishti and gave her strength because he know mishti met abir prev night and its tough for her, so he shown his support...

Bold - I would have happily believed you ru , if for once a monologue or even a slightest of remark from his side would have given me a hint that it was the exact moment for him to think like that for mishti , the trigger for him was abir's statement "tu mera bhai nahi ho sakta" to prove that wrong , kunal supported abir , even went to the extent of going against meenu ...remember when kunal's immediate reaction when mishti reveals him the truth , the first person he met was abir, and the only question he asked him was " am I your nanko or not ? " ...its very clear even over meenu , kunal favours abir ! So yes the whole helping mishbir was for abir, definitely he became neutral towards mishti , but there was no personal motivation, if he was in your words, we all know how vocal kunal is , Hume pata hota !

bechare drink chodke chala gaya, even he is not at fault and mishti saved him, kuhu tho sach bolne ke liye tayyar thi...as she loves nannu...

Hey Ruhi 😊

I find the Mishnal bond & relationship to be one of the most genuine ones in the show.Those two fight it out tooth &nail,call out each other and finally now are showing warmth & care towards the other.So whatever stand it may be,it's on the face value.

Regarding the time span, it's not that they shared deep enemity, it was just a matter of misunderstanding & insecurity from Kunal's side and now all is well ,so I don't find it too soon. And yes Abir is the link which ultimately holds them up as of now.