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Originally posted by: Onyourface

Very rarely I make posts like these, but today just couldn't stop myself from writing this. Actually wanted to write this on weekends, but was too lazy to write, but thank god today I got one more point to add to my post.

I thought of making a seperate post for this wonderful human being who is actually goals in every sense, husband goals, father goals, human being goals. I remember once Mishti asked him playfully"aapko sab kaise pata chal jaata hai " and bade Papa said "meri teesri aankh hai" that was said in a fun way but it actually signifies the thinking and understanding capacity of this man, he always analysis the situation from all angles, just because he loves mishti or kuhu or rajshri or any other member of the family, that dosent mean he will favour that person, he looks at things with a 3D lense not a 2D one, not at all a biased lense which has a backdrop of some assumptions and presumptions , always asking the right questions , having the patience to hear the answers and taking his own time to make the decisions. There are some scenes which never really were the highlights of the episode, but for me they were better than the actual highlights of the episode.

Going down the memory lane with Bade Papa:

"Lekin ek Ghar Ko maa Laxmi aur maa Saraswati , dono ki zarurat hoti hai"

There was a little jugalbandi between Varsha and badi maa regarding regarding who is better, symbolising kuhu and Mishti in the conversation, but it was bade Papa who interrupted and said we need both in the family thereby meaning we can't sacrifice one for the other. Just like universe needs Laxmi( wealth) and Saraswati ( knowledge) to move forward , in the same way, If we need kuhu, we need Mishti as well and vice versa, the family is incomplete without the two, and so the universe.


"Maa baap Apne bacchho ko pinjra nahi, pankh dete hai"

Another significant symbolism here, this was the time when mishti demanded courtship , but rajshri wasn't agreeing, she feared naman those days and felt RVs will not agree to the courtship condition , bade Papa then asks Mishti if she really wants to give up, even after mish says yes she is ready to give up her courtship condition, bade Papa makes her understand how right she is and shouldn't fear, also advices rajshri to support her daughter, he didn't agree to rajshri's demands just because she was his wife, and was under stress.


"Kabhi kabhi humeim samajh nahi aata konsi baat sahi hai, konsi baat galat hai Lekin jab kabhi aisa Lage, tab na logon ki sunni chahie na duniya ki, sirf apne dil ki sunni chahie, kyunki Dil hamesha sach kehta hai"

This was when mishti broke the gordhana and the same night kuhu in a confused state asks bade Papa, why is everyone against Mishti if she is right?, The above lines were answer to kuhu's question, notice carefully here, he says "sirf apne dil ki" he dosent say apne maa baap ki apne parivaar ki or anything, sirf "apne dil" ki , teaching them that your answer is within you, if your mind has raised a question, search the answer within your heart, it will answer you back, spend some "alone" time with yourself to find it. However good or bad you are, your conscience self always speaks the truth..Because dil ki voice is soul ki voice, soul will always give you the right answer. No wonder mishti and kuhu always follow their heart, kuhu kuch zyada hi literally leti hai, vo baat alag hai !


"Mishti un anath bachho ke liye gayi hai, hamare jhagde un baccho se zyada zaruri toh nahi ho sakte na"

This was when mishti wanted to go to champaner along with Abir but badima refused saying us ladke se ab koi rishta nahi rakhna, bade papa again takes the right stand, work is above everything, more than that we should keep our personal biases aside when it comes to helping the needy, it's nice to have emotions but very necessary to also know when to control your emotions, it's not at all an easy task to forget your differences and do something for people you don't even know. True sign of a good human being here.


"Jahan par log aapse yeh umeed rakhe ki aap hamesha sar jhuka ke rakhenge, vaha se sar uthakar laut Jaana hi behtar hota hai"

Never compromise on your self respect, self respect is definitely above your love, this he said to mishti when people were blaming her for the party date mismatch , no wonder bade papa never wanted kuhu to enter that kabootarkhaana, he can easily sense the kind of people out there, and that's why he was skeptical about kuhu going there, he even asked right questions to kuhu and Kunal both, but sadly had to give in for family's and kuhu's happiness , and no wonder, bade Papa though believed mishti but was still upset with her for the haldi fiasco, not because she was rude with her family but because she, to some extent, compromised on her self respect in the process.....again when there was a chance , he asked the right questions to Abir and mishti as well, this time much more satisfied with the answers. More than love, he wants that people respect his daughters for what they are, and his daughters respect themselves too. He even described Meenu as "vo mausam jo Roz badalte hain, uspe bharosa nahi kiya jaata" ..lol.


"Jab hum ghar ki chokhat ke bahar jaaye, toh hamare mann ek hone chahie"

This is the most significant thing for a family to be together, whatever the differences are, should stay internally within the family and shouldn't go outside, because there are people out there like meenakshi rajvansh who are waiting for that one chance to play the game, during this entire shaadi fiasco, she tried her best to break the maheshwaris firstly by using kuhu ,when she learns from Kunal that kuhu hates Mishti, her planning started in full speed. When she sensed Mishti feels indebted to mahs, she used her against mahs, and she would have been successful too agar neend mein bhi hoshiyar beta jaagta nahi....that's why when representing the family in the outside world, behaving as a strong unit is very important.


We have always seen bade Papa stand for the right, giving befitting answers to Meenu, and treating everyone with love and respect ,whether it's for kuhu or Mishti, he was never in the foreground but always in the background supporting everyone in the family, just like how our backbone supports our body, Maheshwaris without bade Papa would have been a scattered family, a family Jahan koi "asli saval karta nahi , Jahan koi asli jawab deta nahi, Jahan koi asli baat karta nahi" ...just like the RV parivaar.

The biggest takeaways from bade Papa are to concentrate on being a good human being rather than being a good father, mother, daughter etc, always analyse the situation from all perspectives, not just from the perspective of the person you love, and always try asking right questions, because asking only right questions will help you to find right answers and I really appreciate such characters like BP, very rarely you find them on ITV.

Abir calls Mishti badi ma ki parchayi, though Abir has his own set of flaws, but he is so much like bade papa, and definitely has a lot of potential to be bade papa's parchayi !!


So if you have managed to read this, thank you so much for your time, I would definitely like to read your thoughts on this.

🤗

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Awesome post ..BP is probably one of the best father figures ever potrayed, who always asks the right questions, calls spade a spade, doesn't hesitate to take a stand for whats right. There is one dialogue of his that struck a chord with me( I don't remember which episode )He says its not difficult to choose between whats right and whats wrong. All the rest of the characters in show , have become emotional fools in one situation or the other because they are forced to choose between the happiness of two people. And most of the times they take the wrong decision. But for BP it doesnt matter to him who is standing infront of him, he never compromises on his ideals to suit another person. His decision making isn't swayed by the emotional blackmailing of anyone in the family. He won't do injustice to one person just to appease another. Also his understanding of Mishti is ❤. The convo he has with BM about mishti was appreciable. I don't think any father has understood his daughter as much as Bp does, you can understand the pride in his voice when he talks about Mishti. He is proud of the fact that his daughter is unconventional, is strong enough to stick by her decisions. I know you see Abir in him , but I also see Mishti in him too (haldi wala kaand chodke if u see) all the good qualities like unwilling to compromise her self respect, her candidness, her strength, her ability to stick by her decisions even when the world is against her. For me BP is a mix of both Abir and Mishti.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#12

Guruji... 🤗

firstly hats off to ur memory power for remembering all dialogues you mentioned.. 👏👏👏

my views in blue 😆

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Very rarely I make posts like these, but today just couldn't stop myself from writing this. Actually wanted to write this on weekends, but was too lazy to write, but thank god today I got one more point to add to my post.

I thought of making a seperate post for this wonderful human being who is actually goals in every sense, husband goals, father goals, human being goals. I remember once Mishti asked him playfully"aapko sab kaise pata chal jaata hai " and bade Papa said "meri teesri aankh hai" that was said in a fun way but it actually signifies the thinking and understanding capacity of this man, he always analysis the situation from all angles, just because he loves mishti or kuhu or rajshri or any other member of the family, that dosent mean he will favour that person, he looks at things with a 3D lense not a 2D one, not at all a biased lense which has a backdrop of some assumptions and presumptions , always asking the right questions , having the patience to hear the answers and taking his own time to make the decisions. There are some scenes which never really were the highlights of the episode, but for me they were better than the actual highlights of the episode.

@bold - word 👍🏼

how do you remember such dialogues yaara.. really surprising.. but it really is true.. he always views in all angle n his judgment on person or situation is after deep analysis no rushing at all..

Going down the memory lane with Bade Papa:

"Lekin ek Ghar Ko maa Laxmi aur maa Saraswati , dono ki zarurat hoti hai"

There was a little jugalbandi between Varsha and badi maa regarding regarding who is better, symbolising kuhu and Mishti in the conversation, but it was bade Papa who interrupted and said we need both in the family thereby meaning we can't sacrifice one for the other. Just like universe needs Laxmi( wealth) and Saraswati ( knowledge) to move forward , in the same way, If we need kuhu, we need Mishti as well and vice versa, the family is incomplete without the two, and so the universe.

wow remember you mentioned this dialogue to me one day.. but now understand the depth of it... he is keeping up with this word till date..

"Maa baap Apne bacchho ko pinjra nahi, pankh dete hai"

Another significant symbolism here, this was the time when mishti demanded courtship , but rajshri wasn't agreeing, she feared naman those days and felt RVs will not agree to the courtship condition , bade Papa then asks Mishti if she really wants to give up, even after mish says yes she is ready to give up her courtship condition, bade Papa makes her understand how right she is and shouldn't fear, also advices rajshri to support her daughter, he didn't agree to rajshri's demands just because she was his wife, and was under stress.

haa even sometimes BM failed at supporting n understanding... he is very much sorted yaar.. this actually is a lesson to every parents too..

"Kabhi kabhi humeim samajh nahi aata konsi baat sahi hai, konsi baat galat hai Lekin jab kabhi aisa Lage, tab na logon ki sunni chahie na duniya ki, sirf apne dil ki sunni chahie, kyunki Dil hamesha sach kehta hai"

This was when mishti broke the gordhana and the same night kuhu in a confused state asks bade Papa, why is everyone against Mishti if she is right?, The above lines were answer to kuhu's question, notice carefully here, he says "sirf apne dil ki" he dosent say apne maa baap ki apne parivaar ki or anything, sirf "apne dil" ki , teaching them that your answer is within you, if your mind has raised a question, search the answer within your heart, it will answer you back, spend some "alone" time with yourself to find it. However good or bad you are, your conscience self always speaks the truth..Because dil ki voice is soul ki voice, soul will always give you the right answer. No wonder mishti and kuhu always follow their heart, kuhu kuch zyada hi literally leti hai, vo baat alag hai !

this is phenominal yaar... this one i need to try to implement in my life... whenever i'm confused i let mom to take decision..

@bold - wow word uru... 👏👏 you have described it so beautifully..

"Mishti un anath bachho ke liye gayi hai, hamare jhagde un baccho se zyada zaruri toh nahi ho sakte na"

This was when mishti wanted to go to champaner along with Abir but badima refused saying us ladke se ab koi rishta nahi rakhna, bade papa again takes the right stand, work is above everything, more than that we should keep our personal biases aside when it comes to helping the needy, it's nice to have emotions but very necessary to also know when to control your emotions, it's not at all an easy task to forget your differences and do something for people you don't even know. True sign of a good human being here.

i remember this one... and loved how BP encouraged mish to do the right when she was in dilemma.. but this is really a life lesson on helping needy n also on work front.. even in work place we have differences with colleagues n sometimes it affects our work too..

"Jahan par log aapse yeh umeed rakhe ki aap hamesha sar jhuka ke rakhenge, vaha se sar uthakar laut Jaana hi behtar hota hai"

Never compromise on your self respect, self respect is definitely above your love, this he said to mishti when people were blaming her for the party date mismatch , no wonder bade papa never wanted kuhu to enter that kabootarkhaana, he can easily sense the kind of people out there, and that's why he was skeptical about kuhu going there, he even asked right questions to kuhu and Kunal both, but sadly had to give in for family's and kuhu's happiness , and no wonder, bade Papa though believed mishti but was still upset with her for the haldi fiasco, not because she was rude with her family but because she, to some extent, compromised on her self respect in the process.....again when there was a chance , he asked the right questions to Abir and mishti as well, this time much more satisfied with the answers. More than love, he wants that people respect his daughters for what they are, and his daughters respect themselves too. He even described Meenu as "vo mausam jo Roz badalte hain, uspe bharosa nahi kiya jaata" ..lol.

this this is my most favorite of BP scene and dialogue... as a father he would've really felt bad when mish apologized but still he stopped before she can complete n gave a subtle yet firm warning to meenu... the way he handled the situation was best.. even BM wanted mish to compromise n apologize he even pointed it to her how wrong she was there...

niceee uru for pointing the self respect of mish in BP angle now only seeing it in this way... haldi scene really felt bad for him the most.. even though he didnt believe what she did n trusted her his dialogue on kuku shaadi night on how abhir understood mishti but as a father he couldnt.. somewhere he felt as a father he failed..

like you said he is best at judging people uru.. his mausam dialogue was really epic i really was surprised that time on how meenu thought BP will give in so easily if she asked..

"Jab hum ghar ki chokhat ke bahar jaaye, toh hamare mann ek hone chahie"

This is the most significant thing for a family to be together, whatever the differences are, should stay internally within the family and shouldn't go outside, because there are people out there like meenakshi rajvansh who are waiting for that one chance to play the game, during this entire shaadi fiasco, she tried her best to break the maheshwaris firstly by using kuhu ,when she learns from Kunal that kuhu hates Mishti, her planning started in full speed. When she sensed Mishti feels indebted to mahs, she used her against mahs, and she would have been successful too agar neend mein bhi hoshiyar beta jaagta nahi....that's why when representing the family in the outside world, behaving as a strong unit is very important.

most phenomenal dialogue of today episode... loved how you have described it... beautiful.. 👏👏

We have always seen bade Papa stand for the right, giving befitting answers to Meenu, and treating everyone with love and respect ,whether it's for kuhu or Mishti, he was never in the foreground but always in the background supporting everyone in the family, just like how our backbone supports our body, Maheshwaris without bade Papa would have been a scattered family, a family Jahan koi "asli saval karta nahi , Jahan koi asli jawab deta nahi, Jahan koi asli baat karta nahi" ...just like the RV parivaar.

ur backbone description here reminds me of ur shiv parvathi post uru... he really proves to be shiv to everyone..

The biggest takeaways from bade Papa are to concentrate on being a good human being rather than being a good father, mother, daughter etc, always analyse the situation from all perspectives, not just from the perspective of the person you love, and always try asking right questions, because asking only right questions will help you to find right answers and I really appreciate such characters like BP, very rarely you find them on ITV.

he really is an inspiration and teaches alot on life aspects.. this is my first time i'm seeing such a character in ITV... we have seen mythological character who gives us lesson shiv, krishna, ganeshji... but he is like the need in hour modern day lesson to everyone...

Abir calls Mishti badi ma ki parchayi, though Abir has his own set of flaws, but he is so much like bade papa, and definitely has a lot of potential to be bade papa's parchayi !!

wow uru... word.. i accept it whole heartedly.. with abhirs n BP trust and understanding on each other is basically bcoz their nature is very much similar...

So if you have managed to read this, thank you so much for your time, I would definitely like to read your thoughts on this.

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thoroughly enjoyed reading it uru.. u have a deep analysis skills on dialogue n also very good memory power... 👏👍🏼🤗

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: meen123

Uru ben mast likha che.

Mane samaj na aavo ke likhu. 😉

Mishti, Abir secondary hai. I want to be like bade papa... Agle janam lena padega par jitni improvement kar sakta utna Acha....

Hey meen , Kem cho Maja ma ...aaj toh baba ne tera Naam bhi Liya...Meenu 😆

Kaik toh Lakho yaar 😆

Sahi hai meen, bp is first in my list too, Abir second and Mishti third...sahi hai meen jitni improvement utna acha👍🏼👍🏼

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Originally posted by: Fauzi

It's awesome dear❤️ a big 🤗 to you for this wonderful post...

This kind of a Sane person only holds the families together... The members of the family indirectly cling onto them for clarity even if they don't know it themselves...

Like you said with a few changes done, Abir has all the potential in falling in BP's footsteps...

A big hug 🤗 to you too Fauzi for taking time to read and leaving a comment here.

Bold - yes, and he always gives proper answers to clear the confusion, no wonder he is respected so much in the family.

Italics - Absolutely, I believe somewhere more than baba, bade Papa will have a stronger influence on abir's life ahead.

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Originally posted by: Onyourface

Hey meen , Kem cho Maja ma ...aaj toh baba ne tera Naam bhi Liya...Meenu 😆

Kaik toh Lakho yaar 😆

Sahi hai meen, bp is first in my list too, Abir second and Mishti third...sahi hai meen jitni improvement utna acha👍🏼👍🏼

yaar naam lia or feels ni aayi, diyu or Pali ko yahi bol ri thi mai.. 😆 inki awaaz bhi BP jaisi respecting and authority vali hai na.... Haaye..... Vaise Meenu ko bharosa hai ki unhone aisa kuch kia to gussa jaayaz bhi hai bt Meenu kisi ko bolne ka mauka b ni deti... Lol pining dabbo daffod
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Originally posted by: vssdp

Hey Uru

Will read it soon and comment

It's quite big post 😆

Sorry 🙈...was planning to write this since a week, aaj compile ho hi gaya 😆...had to be long 😆

Okay, waiting waiting 😃

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Originally posted by: meen123

yaar naam lia or feels ni aayi, diyu or Pali ko yahi bol ri thi mai.. 😆 inki awaaz bhi BP jaisi respecting and authority vali hai na.... Haaye..... Vaise Meenu ko bharosa hai ki unhone aisa kuch kia to gussa jaayaz bhi hai bt Meenu kisi ko bolne ka mauka b ni deti... Lol pining dabbo daffod

Puchenge hi na, tu itni excited jo thi 😆... Meenu sunne ke liye 😆..no worries angst mein aur zyada hot lagta hai Naam sunne mein 😉

Yaar inke Jawani ke din kaise honge na...full on Tashan types love Story, misbbir se zyada interesting hai inke uljhe dhaage 🤣

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Originally posted by: Onyourface

Puchenge hi na, tu itni excited jo thi 😆... Meenu sunne ke liye 😆..no worries angst mein aur zyada hot lagta hai Naam sunne mein 😉

Yaar inke Jawani ke din kaise honge na...full on Tashan types love Story, misbbir se zyada interesting hai inke uljhe dhaage 🤣

I don't like being called Meenu tbh so I'd prefer my whole name or something else entirely..

Yaar namesake aunty jaise egoistic hu... So can relate to that... Bt seriously I want to know yaar uncle aunty ne kaise pasand kia tha re.... 80s ka time hoga na vo

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Originally posted by: meen123

I don't like being called Meenu tbh so I'd prefer my whole name or something else entirely..

Yaar namesake aunty jaise egoistic hu... So can relate to that... Bt seriously I want to know yaar uncle aunty ne kaise pasand kia tha re.... 80s ka time hoga na vo

Bold - 🤣🤣...kitna frankly aur cutely bol rahi hai.😎

Toh kya hua 80s hua toh,

"Mere saath shaadi karoge Mehul dobbo daffod?"

"Bilkul Meenu daffod"

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Originally posted by: Onyourface

Adni,

dear do you feel there is some difference between Mishti and kuhu as characters ?

Do you feel there is some difference in Abir and Kunal as characters?

If yes, then bade Papa's reaction on both the couples would be also different na

Having said that, bade Papa was not at all happy with kuhu getting married to Kunal, because he never felt kuhu has that smartness to handle that kabootarkhaana nor he was fond of Kunal, he asked kuhu if she was ready, he asked Kunal if he was ready, he asked his family about it too, since there was no objection from any side, he had to agree , what else he could have done tell me..? Also I didn't understand which Ishara kuhu gave, what exactly you are talking about ? If you can please make ne understand.

It was not at all a free pass, if you remember the famous "Mishti se dur rahiye" to Abir during the gordhana track, when mishti and Abir were wrong, bade Papa didn't shy away from pointing out their mistakes too, he asked questions to Abir also, but his answers were convincing, when bade Papa was assured that Abir respects Mishti mite than he loves her, and definitely understands Mishti mire than she does herself, then he agreed

Where was the partiality here ?

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You have said it perfectly. The four people at the center of this are diametrically opposed. Mishti and Abir are mature individuals who put their families as well as what’s best for all, first. Kuhu and Kunal are selfish and self-centered and that’s why Bade Papa dealt with them differently. That’s also why they are happily in love and Kuhu Kunal are unhappily married.

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