YRKKH BTS, SM updates & Spoilers Thread #115 - Page 20

Originally posted by: Ohgod!

See.. I don't know.. he anyway dislikes Abhir. And he's very wrong in giving that vaadas to Vidya cos who's he or Vidya for that matter to decide for Kiara..but deciding to stay by the wronged sister's decision is what a brother has decided and should do.. what he wishes for is secondary and not for him to tell Kiara.. but yes, I do hope he also wants the best for Kiara, which is to step away from Abhir and also not let him get away with this easily!!

But Abhira needed to have said more to Abhir today if she didn't.. (haven't watched episode)

As I understood the episode, Armaan is not saying Kiara should not divorce Abhir, like any normal human who hears about EMA, he is siding with Kiara

He went after Kiara to stop her but she said she wants to give her marriage a chance and if she fails, she'll leave Abhir

Armaan is letting the victim in all this situation take the decision, she wants to take.

Originally posted by: Scarlett24

I did not compare Abhira with Vidhya, I only mentioned both committed crimes.

When Armaan asked ruhi not to file a fir against Abhira, no one asked for justice , no one blamed Armaan for supporting a crime. Similarly, when Armaan asked for out of court settlement for Vidhya , he was crucified.

Whatever he did after that , license fiasco, no one justified that and he was called out everyday.

Abhira committed a crime but there were more chances of acquittal, because Rohit and Armaan were the ones who initiated abduction (separating a mother from child without her knowledge). Vidya mata got 10 years of imprisonment for her crime. Degree of the crime varies, though yes crime is a crime, be it abduction/swapping of child for months by Rohit and Armaan, or kidnapping of child by Abhira for hours or hit and run by Vidya mata for minutes or her being an accomplice in Shivani's disappearance and removal of traces of her existence, for years.

Armaan was not crucified for suggesting out of court settlement, he was crucified for divorcing Abhira when Vidya mata was punished for her crime.

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

Abhira committed a crime but there were more chances of acquittal, because Rohit and Armaan were the ones who initiated abduction (separating a mother from child without her knowledge). Vidya mata got 10 years of imprisonment for her crime. Degree of the crime varies, though yes crime is a crime, be it abduction/swapping of child for months by Rohit and Armaan, or kidnapping of child by Abhira for hours or hit and run by Vidya mata for minutes or her being an accomplice in Shivani's disappearance and removal of traces of her existence, for years.

Armaan was not crucified for suggesting out of court settlement, he was crucified for divorcing Abhira when Vidya mata was punished for her crime.

But who sent the signed divorce papers first? So Armaan has no agency in deciding whether to act on it or not? Just like how it was a tipping point for Abhira after the on stage insults by dadi sa, Vidhyas humiliation was the tipping point for Armaan . But I forgot that we have different benchmarks for both of them.(It is a different matter that both of them later decided that they did not want the divorce and both acted on impulse.)

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

Abhira committed a crime but there were more chances of acquittal, because Rohit and Armaan were the ones who initiated abduction (separating a mother from child without her knowledge). Vidya's mata got 10 years of imprisonment for her crime. Degree of the crime varies, though yes crime is a crime, be it abduction/swapping of child for months by Rohit and Armaan, or kidnapping of child by Abhira for hours or hit and run by Vidya mata for minutes or her being an accomplice in Shivani's disappearance and removal of traces of her existence, for years.

Armaan was not crucified for suggesting out of court settlement, he was crucified for divorcing Abhira when Vidya mata was punished for her crime.

But was this wrong on Ar's side? Ab signed the divorce paper after the stage incident where Kv insulted her in public ( Ar didn't stand up) and a perceived insult from Ar to MG which was an accident. And Ar signed and handed the divorce papers back after his mother was sent to jail (completely valid legally) by Abhira. It is another matter that by the time Ar signed the divorce paper Abhira didn't want the divorce.

What I felt was wrong and completely out of character was the license cancellation that followed. That deserved calling out, not the divorce where both didn't prioritise the relationship enough.

Originally posted by: Scarlett24

But who sent the signed divorce papers first? So Armaan has no agency in deciding whether to act on it or not? Just like how it was a tipping point for Abhira after the on stage insults by dadi sa, Vidhyas humiliation was the tipping point for Armaan . But I forgot that we have different benchmarks for both of them.(It is a different matter that both of them later decided that they did not want the divorce and both acted on impulse.)

Abhira signed divorce papers because Armaan didn't stop KP from publicly humiliating her for infertility, after pleading for a chance to be by her side, after baby swap reveal, he didn't fulfil his promise again or sided with KP saying "woh bari hain". Armaan not only swapped babies and deprived Abhira of the right to say goodbye to her dead child, he also supported his dadisa when she humiliated Abhira publicly, specifically when he was desperately trying to make amends. That's not the way to make amends. Whereas Armaan signed divorce papers to punish Abhira for sending Vidya mata to jail for the crime she committed. Abhira was not wrong in sending Vidya mata to jail. Armaan wronged Abhira whereas Abhira didn't wrong Vidya mata/Armaan to be punished with divorce.

Originally posted by: Solitudelover

But was this wrong on Ar's side? Ab signed the divorce paper after the stage incident where Kv insulted her in public ( Ar didn't stand up) and a perceived insult from Ar to MG which was an accident. And Ar signed and handed the divorce papers back after his mother was sent to jail (completely valid legally) by Abhira. It is another matter that by the time Ar signed the divorce paper Abhira didn't want the divorce.

What I felt was wrong and completely out of character was the license cancellation that followed. That deserved calling out, not the divorce where both didn't prioritise the relationship enough.

Abhira signed divorce papers after series of events followed by baby swap reveal, Armaan wronged her without her being at fault. Didn't he? Whereas Abhira didn't wrong Vidya mata or Armaan by punishing her for her crime. She didn't deserve divorce as punishment (my pov)

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

Abhira saying that their marriage was forced was not a lie

She was in shock, she thought that the baby was hers. As soon as ABhira realized that Daksh is actually Ruhi's baby, she gave him back.

Nobody is putting ABhira on a pedestal .I completely agree that both are flawed. But in their relationship, Armaan has made more mistakes than ABhira

I was just pointing out how imbalanced their relationship has become, where it's the same ARmaan shouting, blaming her for things, and then apologising. After a point, it gets tiring to watch.

I also want them to end up together, but I also want Armaan to stop blaming ABhira for everything

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

Abhira signed divorce papers after series of events followed by baby swap reveal, Armaan wronged her without her being at fault. Didn't he? Whereas Abhira didn't wrong Vidya mata or Armaan by punishing her for her crime. She didn't deserve divorce as punishment (my pov)

Was it a punishment though?? Or just from his point of view, resigning to himself and admitting that Abhira probably really didn't want to get back cos she had effectively closed all doors on him with choosing her brother (rightfully from her perspective) over their relationship when there was the option of out of court settlement which is usually how most of these cases are sorted, yet by asking for jail time for his mother, she closed all doors on their relationship? And giving her what she had wanted first and signing the papers.. I'm not saying he wasn't angry when he did, but he seemed more resigned than vengeful! I don't think it was punishment! But that's my opinion..

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

Abhira signed divorce papers because Armaan didn't stop KP from publicly humiliating her for infertility, after pleading for a chance to be by her side, after baby swap reveal, he didn't fulfil his promise again or sided with KP saying "woh bari hain". Armaan not only swapped babies and deprived Abhira of the right to say goodbye to her dead child, he also supported his dadisa when she humiliated Abhira publicly, specifically when he was desperately trying to make amends. That's not the way to make amends. Whereas Armaan signed divorce papers to punish Abhira for sending Vidya mata to jail for the crime she committed. Abhira was not wrong in sending Vidya mata to jail. Armaan wronged Abhira whereas Abhira didn't wrong Vidya mata/Armaan to be punished with divorce.

With regards to baby swap, although he was wrong in joining with Rohit in the act, but his reasons were completely relevant, it took a series of incidents for him to accept the swap, he was scared of loosing Abhira, and the two dreams shown were his fears based on what he acted, it's wrong I don't deny but not completely baseless, and he did not on purpose deprive Abhira of seeing the baby one last time.

Where as divorce is concerned it was never about punishing Abhira, his dialogues clearly mentioned he is tired and has given up on their relationship, he just agreed that they love eachother but cannot be compatible, and can never be enough for each other. This was not as a punishment for Abhira.

Yes the license thing was wrong which he acted upon, then being vidyas son. Otherwise I don't see divorce as a punishment.