Comparing a child with "Samaan" - Page 2

Originally posted by: ThukkadRajaShah

Yah nahi baataya daayan abheera ne ki saaman ke wajah se dusra bag phat bhi sakta hai. aur saaman baahar nikalne ka right bhi chhin jata hai

See this is how ridiculous it is, a bag is lifeless but a woman is not but neither Abhira nor her fans are capable of understanding the simple thing

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

https://x.com/Singhalpita/status/1906174870796501247?t=2ys0bH1XffLU6tso6eWZSQ&s=19

What a great lawyer Mrs. Sharma

Surrogacy is exactly like keeping someone's Samaan in your bag

It was hilarious those 2 aunties were actually 🤣 great since they never ever watched ITV ...If any human ever watched ITV would automatically know what is " Surrogacy "...those 2 women stuck in past

AAbeer's saman ab nahi vapas milegi Ruhiza will become crazyiza again waiting for negative Ruhi ....

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

@bold what's the need to justify surrogacy when both surrogate and biological parents are in mutual agreement? Surrogate herself wanted to carry the child or had a legal agreement to carry the child. There are around 10,000 surrogacy cases in the world each year, do all biological parents have to justify surrogacy? Obviously not.

@red for people woman cursing another woman, wishing bad for unborn child because of his/her grandmother or setting up mandap to get married to her jeth when she is already married, setting up seven day plan, causing dispute between brothers or being exceedingly inconsiderate towards infertile woman isn't "nasty" but not being considerate or mature enough to give mourning mother space is nasty. If the latter one is termed nasty former one is beyond being nasty. Ruhi was a vamp who was praised for being "nasty" just because of personal disliking towards Abhinav and Akshara's daughter, again a fictional character. I haven't ever seen a lead of new generation of a fictional show being hated and loathed just because of his/her parents, to extent of justifying that they are facing karma of his/her parents when he/she (ML/FL) is just fictional character written that way, or made to suffer and cry 24/7 so TRP viewers sympathize with her and they did every single time (proven by TRP).

Surrogate mothers suffer both mentally and physically , sometimes even losing life. Not to forget that surrogate loses rights on her own body during surrogacy. Do hell with the couple, the thing is no one can ever JUSTIFY surrogacy.

Whoever does wrong acts will be called out by society and labelled with nasty terms, there's nothing wrong in that.

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

Last time Ruhi did it, Mrs. Sharma's fans went berserk "Bache ko saman kaise bol sakti hai, oh my God, we have seen satan"

But Ruhi had a reason to be deranged, she had lost her child and went through a traumatic experience, what reason does Abhira have to compare a baby with samaan?

Sigh! Both can't be compared because then Roohi called the child a samaan whereas here Abhira is not referring to the child as samaan, she is explaining the concept of surrogate being the carrier, that being said I agree with you that the writers could have given better dialogue to explain the concept of surrogacy

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

Same rona of people hating Abhira because she is Abhinav's daughter but for how long do you want sympathy for the same thing?

If people can love her for being Abhinav's daughter why can't they hate her for the same?

All leads get hate, Abhimanyu was hated too, is still hated, Anupamaa gets hate everywhere even though she is biggest brand of SP but Abhira fans want people to love her because she is lead

No matter what she does, love her, you do it, why expect others to be a blind worshipper?

@bold Abhimanyu was hated because of his parents from previous generation to term the character is facing karma of his parents the characters from previous generation? or Is Anupama hated because of her parents to say she is facing karma of her parents?

Why should everyone love Abhira? She is a mere fictional character transformed to a completely different personality (specifically in terms of taking stand for her own self) within months. It's your choice to love or hate her. But the point is she can't face karma of her parents' actions, as whatever is happening around her is not planned as karma of her parents by writers, it's happening to generate sympathy for her, when she had a breakdown after getting to know about baby swap or kidnapped a child or returned him or left PH TRP was maximum one of this generation that time, even for last week the episode where she had a breakdown or mourned for her BSP, had maximum TRP. Regarding FL/ML or other main characters, who constantly get minimum 6-8 minute screentime without being reduced to background noise with 2-3 minute screenspace for months, personal sentiments can't change the fact that mass viewers are tuning in to watch their regressive approach, lack of logic or self-worth for minimum 10-12 minutes. TRP for which they destroy, kill or sabotage characters or make a mockery of sensitive issues like bigamy, infertility, surrogacy, miscarriage, baby swap, hit and run, abduction, fake death certification etc. is proof of it.

Originally posted by: AuthorSneha

Sigh! Both can't be compared because then Roohi called the child a samaan whereas here Abhira is not referring to the child as samaan, she is explaining the concept of surrogate being the carrier, that being said I agree with you that the writers could have given better dialogue to explain the concept of surrogacy

She is comparing the baby to "Samaan" and even more insensitive, she is with herself as she refers to her womb as a fata hua bag and Ruhi's womb as a bad which is functional

Disregarding the physics and emotional trauma one goes through in the process, this is dehumanising

What Ruhi did was shown as wrong, the screenplay tells you that Ruhi did the wrong thing

But here, it is being shown as a way of educating people

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

@bold Abhimanyu was hated because of his parents from previous generation to term the character is facing karma of his parents the characters from previous generation? or Is Anupama hated because of her parents to say she is facing karma of her parents?

Why should everyone love Abhira? She is a mere fictional character transformed to a completely different personality (specifically in terms of taking stand for her own self) within months. It's your choice to love or hate her. But the point is she can't face karma of her actions, as whatever is happening around her is not planned as karma of her parents by writers, it's happening to generate sympathy for her, when she had a breakdown getting to know about baby swap or kidnapped a child or returned him or left the house TRP was maximum one of this generation previously, even last week the episode where she had a breakdown or mourned for her BSP, had maximum TRP. Regarding FL/ML or the characters, who constantly gets minimum 6-8 minute screentime in every single episode without being reduced to background noise by showing their glimpse only or 2-3 minute screentime for months, personal sentiments be it worshipping or hatred towards them can't change the fact that mass viewers are tuning in to watch their regressive approach, lack of logic or self-worth with 10-12 minutes or even entire episode of their screentime that also even after a year or so. TRP for which they destroy, kill or sabotage characters or make a mockery of sensitive issues like miscarriage, abduction, bigamy infertility, surrogacy etc. is proof of it.

Why is it okay when people love her because she is Abhinav's daughter but you have issues if people hate her for the same?

Rishta is a legacy show, Arohi was hated because she was Sirat's daughter, Akshara was loved because she was Naira's daughter. Abhimanyu's parents weren't in Gen 2 and Anupamaa is not a legacy show

What people like or love, why is it your concern? You go and love or worship Abhira, others won't

You can't keep crying that people hate her because she is Abhinav's daughter under every post, what her actions today had to do with her being Abhinav's daughter? The topic was made to discuss Gen 4 but you had to involve Gen 3 here because that's the only defense left

You could have said that writer wrote stupid lines for character but no, how can Abhira be wrong?

Roj ka same victim card, it is getting old please

Originally posted by: AuthorSneha

Sigh! Both can't be compared because then Roohi called the child a samaan whereas here Abhira is not referring to the child as samaan, she is explaining the concept of surrogate being the carrier, that being said I agree with you that the writers could have given better dialogue to explain the concept of surrogacy

Lol...likewise even the dialogue of ruhi referring to the baby as saaman was given by the writers.

As for ruhi she was already suffering through the grief of losing a baby ,physical mental changes after pregnancy but here abheera is in her whole senses while shitting from her mouth.

Giving such an analogy itself proves that she refers to a baby as saaman. On top, it's more demeaning towards women, referring to them as bag.

Abheera is herself a bag , paap ki gathri.

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

Why is it okay when people love her because she is Abhinav's daughter but you have issues if people hate her for the same?

Rishta is a legacy show, Arohi was hated because she was Sirat's daughter, Akshara was loved because she was Naira's daughter. Abhimanyu's parents weren't in Gen 2 and Anupamaa is not a legacy show

What people like or love, why is it your concern? You go and love or worship Abhira, others won't

You can't keep crying that people hate her because she is Abhinav's daughter under every post, what her actions today had to do with her being Abhinav's daughter?

Roj ka same victim card, it is getting old please

@bold did I say it's my concern if people hate or love Abhira? Abhira mentioned as Mrs. Sharma despite being Mrs. Armaan/ Mrs. Poddar and honestly glimpse of saman dialogue brought me here (though I didn't watch episode) otherwise who waste their time on hate threads where it's a given that you will be personally attacked for an opinion even if you are rarely bothered to reply to hate threads which are made every single day. Akshara is "Mrs. Sharma" not Abhira. Saman analogy was given as dialogue by pathetic writers. Got better things to do than worshipping Abhira.

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Originally posted by: Sparkle232

Yrkkh makers really think they did something progressive with this scene.

Abhira if you are that progressive why can't you go for adoption even after facing complicated pregnancy, a child death, failure of 3 IVF process.

People obsessed with genes won't understand why surrogacy is an unfair and inhuman practice.

We are still a country that follows caste system, worldwide obsession of genes and blood jate jate jayega

Humans essentially carry same DNA, there are 100k genes in human genome and 90% of those have no use

Genes which express carry out same function in every human body, some difference is there, of course but the difference comes from your microbiome as well

Ye to bahut dur ka discussion hai lol

I have issues with surrogacy and no ITV show, especially the one which relies on gene expression as the basic premise of legacy won't show adoption as an option