Question for those with surgical/medical experience - Page 2

Lol when did this show actually made sense.

Ak was operated with butter knife.

Brick falled on nairas back and her kidney damaged.

Naira had problem conceiving but still.....

Ak's carrier, God this women,the amount of carrier paths she took and still is not anywhere....

Sharma ji just started job, caused a car accident, but still got advance and that too 10,000 and then just left..just like that and the owner let him do that.

Birla hospital,i swear,if such hospital exists in real life,it would have long been closed by the government officials no matter how corrupt the officials would be and all the doctors license would have long been cancelled.

Etc...

Etc...

Etc...

I can write a lot more. Hashh.. don't wanna waste much of my time.

Thanks. Have a good day.

DT Edited: moral policing

Originally posted by: DivyaaaV

You would’ve seen that in previous episodes Abhimanyu becomes the doctor for every kind of issue, like for Akshara’s accident where he operated on her vocal cords. It’s just funny tbh but yeah every resident may not have the expertise he does but there certainly are many doctors (attendings) in that hospital who can attend to cases like Abhinav.

The funniest premise of the show is that they apparently made it seem like Abhimanyu, the character, was so exceptional that he could fast track med school and residency to become a reputed, experiened cardiothoracic surgeon in his 20s. I mean, you can be a hot-shot newbie but how'd you be an experienced surgeon in your 20s if med school + residency takes around 7-8 year in total lol. Which patient is just okay to let a newbie to open their chest without any supervision?

This is not to age shame any character/actor/fan but just to point out a plot hole.

Originally posted by: Aditi_X

Why would a brain injury/head laceration require cardiac surgery?

Based on how Abhinav fell and was injured, I can't find a connection between the two. Maybe excessive bleeding caused low blood pressure and tachycardia? But I didn't see that kind of blood loss in the episodes. Even if that happened, why would that require heart surgery? Wouldn't you just focus on giving more blood and saline?

I work in neuroscience research myself and the only connection I can think of where a brain injury would require cardiac intervention is in the case of stroke, i.e. where the heart is throwing blood clots or arteries are filled with plaque. But I don't have any surgical interventional experience so I don't want to assume.

I also don't understand how Dr. Abhimanyu Birla is the only one cardiac surgeon who is good enough to treat a cardiac patient. Wouldn't all doctors and hospital personnel know about post-op procedures and observation? I worked in long term care and in a hospital setting, and I've seen nurses check patients' vitals almost every other hour. It's common knowledge for those in the medical community. I don't see how an ultra rich and VIP surgeon like Abhimanyu is the only one who has knowledge of these procedures.

Also, in a real hospital setting with such senior surgeons like Abhimanyu, there are resident doctors and interns and other attending doctors on-call. Aren't they qualified enough to handle a case like Abhinav's? I worked with a senior attending doctor once and most of his cases were handled by residents. He himself was responsible for so many patients that it was more efficient to delegate patients to three-four residents. It doesn't make sense to me how such a senior surgeon like him is always necessary for every kind of surgical procedure.

Another thing, even if he hadn't been arrested, Abhimanyu wouldn't have been eligible to operate on Abhinav because of his emotional involvement. Medical personnel are not allowed to treat and operate on their own family members or friends, right?

No point in looking for this much logic in ITV. Medicine, law, time, geography etc. work very differently in yrkkh.

Bricks fell on Naira's head and she needed a kidney transplant, Abhimanyu operated Akshu's vocal cords, he is the only capable doctor and has preformed surgery on several family members.

Divorce procedure and custody has no logic since Kaira days, police arrest people based on phone calls, heart patient travels long distance, weather conditions in Kasauli change overnight... The list goes on on. Watching without looking for logic is the only way one can enjoy it.

Originally posted by: DivyaaaV

Medically, any kind of damage or injury to the brain can immediately affect heart function as the brain is the command center of the body. For example, he may have a brain bleed which would not necessarily be seen as a physical injury, it can be internal. However, given the type of fall it is likely that there could be a physical injury as well. Taking everything into account, if there is a hematoma that will severely impact the brain’s ability to regulate systematic bodily functions, including heart regulation.

Now, I don’t know if any sort of heart surgery was required but it could be possible that they had to open him up to insert a support device to help the heart pump blood out while it’s still recovering from the impact.

Since this is a show, the love to glorify Abhimanyu but from what I understand, there was another heart surgeon available. Ideally every doctor should know that Abhinav is still critical until about 72 hours, but to glorify Abhimanyu’s character and experience they made it sound like he’s the “only one who knows that.”

the show has always had family members operate on loved ones so they love to break that norm as well. I would say take everything you see with a grain of salt, unfortunately Abhinav’s doom is imminent and the plot is being twisted to accommodate that.

Very nicely put! Thanks for such detailed answers!

Bold: This explains a lot for me. The heart surgery seemed out of place to me but this support device scenario seems more plausible.

In the show, all they're saying is "unka heart weak hai" which makes no sense to me

Originally posted by: Krinya

@bold. That too when the relatives of the patient ate accusing him of abetting to murder. Half of the time he's operating on his own relatives where mahima or arohi have to push him "dr Birla please hosh mei aaye" , then they hail him for being the best surgeon. I don't remember dr Birla operating on outsiders except the white day and first few initial epis 🤪 Before that , we were told he's the best surgeon but he's mostly at home doing nautanki or being a part of one.

But this is yrkkh lala land. Here there is only 1 doctor that ls dr Birla. And 1 hospital , Birla hospital. The lawyers and police are clowns. 😆

In this aspect Dr. Rohit Sippy from KHKT was much better. There were so many hospital scenes and him doing surgeries and what not.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

The funniest premise of the show is that they apparently made it seem like Abhimanyu, the character, was so exceptional that he could fast track med school and residency to become a reputed, experiened cardiothoracic surgeon in his 20s. I mean, you can be a hot-shot newbie but how'd you be an experienced surgeon in your 20s if med school + residency takes around 7-8 year in total lol. Which patient is just okay to let a newbie to open their chest without any supervision?

This is not to age shame any character/actor/fan but just to point out a plot hole.

This is why I'm always skeptical of fictional stories with hotshot doctors as main characters, especially when they're male. If Abhimanyu is a such an experienced surgeon, then he has to be at least 30, but he was going after a young 20 year old with zero life experience (when it comes to adulting). Even in Grey's Anatomy, I didn't like how Derek and Meredith, Christina and Burke started, considering their power imbalance (both personally and professionally).

At least in KHKT, both Rohit and Sonakshi were established career people with past relationships and life experiences. They were on the same level both age and life experience wise.

Originally posted by: Aditi_X

This is why I'm always skeptical of fictional stories with hotshot doctors as main characters, especially when they're male. If Abhimanyu is a such an experienced surgeon, then he has to be at least 30, but he was going after a young 20 year old with zero life experience (when it comes to adulting). Even in Grey's Anatomy, I didn't like how Derek and Meredith, Christina and Burke started, considering their power imbalance (both personally and professionally).

At least in KHKT, both Rohit and Sonakshi were established career people with past relationships and life experiences. They were on the same level both age and life experience wise.