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Posted: 2 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Chaitu.V

Then how come his love being claimed as Unconditional ? He can be angry ,upset with her but no one who loves someone unconditionally or conditionally can never hurt and throw their spouse the way Mr. Self centred Birla did, he accused her for 9 murders when she was at her lowest and literally pleading him that she can’t take it anymore and asking to stop throwing the things and shouting but instead he chose to break her completely by using Sirat ma’s death. His love is always selfish n conditional ! He can never love anyone unconditionally not even his mom ,I really felt bad for Mj n Ruhi yesterday when he was behaving like a maniac and if it’s the end of the world and want to end his life. This is exact reason why I always say Mj is a much better person than her son ,she is selfish but not for her it’s for her son’s happiness but this man can only think of himself ..it’s always me,myself!

The way he is treating n behaving Abhir today is just proving how pathetic he is. Why he is making the kid guilty for choosing his parents over him who he knows all his life. Can’t he go visit Abhir every weekend ,the 6yr old is more sensible than this grown up man.Even Abhir said they can visit each other and spend time together. He can never be happy with what he have ,and once he get what he wants he will never value that. He have no value for Ruhi who is loving him unconditionally or else he will never act the way he acted yesterday.


Love is unconditional because he didn’t stop loving her. Love alone cannot sustain relationship. There’s nothing wrong about breaking away from something that’s breaking you no matter how dear it is to you.

Wrote this in another thread - copying it here:

Abhimanyu didn’t try to compete with Abhinav or snatch his place - he tried creating his own - but Abhir made it a comparison that his parents are better so he will call him Docman - I don’t know who writes such pathetic dialogues - this I think it hit him deeply as it should!

He made Ruhi understand that both kids are dear to him and there’s a place for both - got then together again but Abhir’s dialogues make it appear that he was treating him as a stand-in for his parents as they sent him away and now that they are back - Abhimanyu’s role is over! I get that Abhir is a kid and he would want to be with Sharmas but this is a very problematic depiction of events!

If he weren’t ready to call him Dad - he shouldn’t have - I understand what that 6 year old went through - fine - but that doesn’t mean all this shouldn’t affect Abhimanyu. He isn’t made of stone! His feelings are justified and relatable to me at least.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: SwatiSingh79


We wouldn't be here if Ak wasn't crossing boundaries of relationship with her sister's fiancée, roaming in his bedroom and touching his stuff. Your argument would make sense if Ak was compelled to do something, which she was not. It wasn't a rejection but her drama of being mahan for her sister, leaving him so he gets married to her sister, knowing that he loves her not her sister, essentially in her mode of sacrifice and her God complex ready to mess two lives so she can tell her dead step mother how good she is as a sister. Abhi's actions are not in a vacuum where there's no other character. You can try to paint a picture of a hard-core criminal as much as you want to by twisting narratives and picking up on scenes claiming things without seeing what happened before and after it. I replied this because it appears to me that you have seen 2 episodes of this drama and repeat same thing on every discussion, which is redundant at this point.

Akshara was more responsible for maintaining the boundaries with her sister's fiance than the man who got engaged to her sister with full volition, who owed Arohi his fidelity since he was committed to her, and was still hitting on his fiance's sister? Lol. He even proposed to his fiance's sister the second time around when she was literally married to someone else.

You know all the normal, non-psychotic people who get engaged to their crush's siblings because they got rejected by their crush? Yeah.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krinya

Wow ! His love isn't conditional so he kept loving akshara when she moved on. But his love was conditional Enuf to divorce her ?🤔


Same question to Ak... She intentionally gave his father rights to a stranger and continued for 6 years even after truth revealed she kept saying he is a bad person and do not deserved to be dad. Now what did Abhi do other than what she wanted, gave abhir back to her that convinced her Abhi can also be now a father to Abhir.(oh yeah this child needs 2 father since the mother is incapable of taking care of him alone)


Also if A man divorces his wife he loses a wife not a child. Don't play god here by saying who deserves to be a dad/mom.... What if Akshara in this place with same story would we all accept that? We all have our own perceptions/likes and all but what this character did is WRONG. She plays GOD with everybody's life and leaves only destruction behind and runs when things get tough.


Don't tell me she also suffered, if that's the case why is she here playing house with a family who she left behind, going to BH and asking biggest VILLAN , still calling her MA🤮 saying I will heal AB pain... My god what a vile character.


Please now that you got your happy family do the sane thing and go to your city. Leave this villans of your life alone to live.


Also she is yet to apologise to Abhi for making someone else a father...eww it sounds wrong in so many levels. If Abhinav is an angel then she should have made him step dad to Abhir. Even if she chooses to hide the truth from Ab, one can accept that but putting someone as a father in BC that too within a short time of having the biggest fall out of your life.


Did Abir as a baby would have died if Abinav is not named as a dad??? You know Abhir could have called Abinav papa and all that trash we have been seeing but what warranted AK to name someone else as a father in the BC. She could have left it blank .. Why? Why did she do this spiteful thing? Pls give justification.


Also why is she going behind a man who destroyed her? Hey hey lost and be happy. Just stop going after your ex husband...


PS. Next week onwards going to be unbearable with her new drama and losing her great husband...


One more thing, there's no such a thing as love is unconditional... Love itself is conditional because it happens when two individuals satisfy what each other offers acceptance to them. So yeah his conditional but not spiteful but Aks love not only to Abhi even to her family is conditional and when they fail it turns spiteful....

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Posted: 2 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Chaitu.V

Then how come his love being claimed as Unconditional ? He can be angry ,upset with her but no one who loves someone unconditionally or conditionally can never hurt and throw their spouse the way Mr. Self centred Birla did, he accused her for 9 murders when she was at her lowest and literally pleading him that she can’t take it anymore and asking to stop throwing the things and shouting but instead he chose to break her completely by using Sirat ma’s death. His love is always selfish n conditional ! He can never love anyone unconditionally not even his mom ,I really felt bad for Mj n Ruhi yesterday when he was behaving like a maniac and if it’s the end of the world and want to end his life. This is exact reason why I always say Mj is a much better person than her son ,she is selfish but not for her it’s for her son’s happiness but this man can only think of himself ..it’s always me,myself!

The way he is treating n behaving Abhir today is just proving how pathetic he is. Why he is making the kid guilty for choosing his parents over him who he knows all his life. Can’t he go visit Abhir every weekend ,the 6yr old is more sensible than this grown up man.Even Abhir said they can visit each other and spend time together. He can never be happy with what he have ,and once he get what he wants he will never value that. He have no value for Ruhi who is loving him unconditionally or else he will never act the way he acted yesterday.



Love is an emotion, unconditional love means the emotion will remain the same like it has through these 6 years, Abhi's love for AK didn't lessen in these 6 years, there's no condition of Ak remaining loyal to him or being his wife, he continued to love her even when she got married and had a child with another man, he continued to love her despite her betrayals, despite knowing that she kept his son away from him, feelings for her do not come with any condition that's why they are intact. He is a human, a human faces all kinds of emotions from love to hatred to anger, in a moment of anger and pain he lost control over himself and he tried to rectify his mistakes the next day when he landed in Ghouse to meet AK, when he went to GHouse everyday for months and stopped going there after Ak gave them the news of her marriage. Abhi's actions do not come out of nowhere, there was something which led to it then there were many incidents after it to tell us how he has been trying to look for her and his quest ended after Ak got married, the love always remained in his heart like it is for Abhir but he gave up on the need to live with her because she was married, he felt the need to live with her again when he felt that she loves him post his accident before that and after that he never made an attempt to bring AK back in his life, he is doing the same with Abhir. Abhir wants to be with his parents, he loves him but he will try not to impose himself on him. Why shouldn't he get a chance and space to be himself? Why are Ak and An forcing Abhir on him? He is doing what they wanted all this while, they didn't want any contact between father and son, Abhir doesn't want him as his father so he is giving them what they want, still these expectations that he'll just forget his feelings, his emotions and be there clapping on the side for Sharma family, why? Why can't Sharma family give him a few days? Is it too much to ask for?

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: mthiru


Same question to Ak... She intentionally gave his father rights to a stranger and continued for 6 years even after truth revealed she kept saying he is a bad person and do not deserved to be dad. Now what did Abhi do other than what she wanted, gave abhir back to her that convinced her Abhi can also be now a father to Abhir.(oh yeah this child needs 2 father since the mother is incapable of taking care of him alone)


Also if A man divorces his wife he loses a wife not a child. Don't play god here by saying who deserves to be a dad/mom.... What if Akshara in this place with same story would we all accept that? We all have our own perceptions/likes and all but what this character did is WRONG. She plays GOD with everybody's life and leaves only destruction behind and runs when things get tough.


Don't tell me she also suffered, if that's the case why is she here playing house with a family who she left behind, going to BH and asking biggest VILLAN , still calling her MA🤮 saying I will heal AB pain... My god what a vile character.


Please now that you got your happy family do the sane thing and go to your city. Leave this villans of your life alone to live.


Also she is yet to apologise to Abhi for making someone else a father...eww it sounds wrong in so many levels. If Abhinav is an angel then she should have made him step dad to Abhir. Even if she chooses to hide the truth from Ab, one can accept that but putting someone as a father in BC that too within a short time of having the biggest fall out of your life.


Did Abir as a baby would have died if Abinav is not named as a dad??? You know Abhir could have called Abinav papa and all that trash we have been seeing but what warranted AK to name someone else as a father in the BC. She could have left it blank .. Why? Why did she do this spiteful thing? Pls give justification.


Also why is she going behind a man who destroyed her? Hey hey lost and be happy. Just stop going after your ex husband...


PS. Next week onwards going to be unbearable with her new drama and losing her great husband...


One more thing, there's no such a thing as love is unconditional... Love itself is conditional because it happens when two individuals satisfy what each other offers acceptance to them. So yeah his conditional but not spiteful but Aks love not only to Abhi even to her family is conditional and when they fail it turns spiteful....

You Akshara owed him no conditional or unconditional love after getting abused and divorced by him lol.

Divorce frees you from any such obligation.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Deltablues

You Akshara owed him no conditional or unconditional love after getting abused and divorced by him lol.

Divorce frees you from any such obligation.

He has given up custody of Abhir, why this obligation of him being around Abhir for him? Abhir has his parents, why can't they handle their son instead of forcing him on Abhi? He doesn't want anything to do with them, he is trying to cut contact but it is okay to guilt trip and gas light him using a child, why? Whatever he does in his house is his issue, he is not going to their house to bother them, why was Ak asking for an unconditional love from Abhi for Abhir? Abhi has no obligation to do anything for Abhir

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Deltablues

You Akshara owed him no conditional or unconditional love after getting abused and divorced by him lol.

Divorce frees you from any such obligation.

But Abhimanyu owed her after she repeatedly ignored her condition herself - she wants others to remain mindful of it why?

Divorce it between two people and it frees both so he shouldn’t be obligated to return or answer calls too then!

Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: DevilsHeart

Love is unconditional because he didn’t stop loving her. Love alone cannot sustain relationship. There’s nothing wrong about breaking away from something that’s breaking you no matter how dear it is to you.

Wrote this in another thread - copying it here:

Abhimanyu didn’t try to compete with Abhinav or snatch his place - he tried creating his own - but Abhir made it a comparison that his parents are better so he will call him Docman - I don’t know who writes such pathetic dialogues - this I think it hit him deeply as it should!

He made Ruhi understand that both kids are dear to him and there’s a place for both - got then together again but Abhir’s dialogues make it appear that he was treating him as a stand-in for his parents as they sent him away and now that they are back - Abhimanyu’s role is over! I get that Abhir is a kid and he would want to be with Sharmas but this is a very problematic depiction of events!

If he weren’t ready to call him Dad - he shouldn’t have - I understand what that 6 year old went through - fine - but that doesn’t mean all this shouldn’t affect Abhimanyu. He isn’t made of stone! His feelings are justified and relatable to me at least.

His love is not unconditional, his love is selfish n he is shameless that’s the only reason he still loves a women who is married to another man and happy in her life that too after getting engaged to Ar and making big and fake promises to Ruhi.

@Bold he always tried to compete with Abhinav until showed him his real place and rejecting him .he stooped so low and threatened Abhinav to leave his wife and send her back to him. I don’t really understand how the 6yr innocent kid is being blamed for choosing his parents over his bio dad who he only knows from a few days/months. Abhir is more matured and sensible than this self centred Birla who cannot think anything beyond his happiness his DDP.

Ak nAbM r divorced couple and only on the basis of money he won the custody and he had to send Abhir because he threatened he will run away if he won’t send him back to his parents. He saw Abhir was not happy in BH but it took him to kid run away to realise how selfish he was . Any kid whose parents r divorced can only stay with one parent and other will have visiting rights ,so as a matured adult he should understand that but here he is making the kid feel guilty ,when the kid is already feeling bad and trying to make him happy. Am not saying he cannot feel bad but the way he is acting is extremely pathetic and I cannot connect with that extremity..

He never loved Ruhi n Abhir equally or else he would never talk about ending life because Abhir rejected him and chose his parents ,even in the summer camp he made Ruhi left out and hurt her badly, he made Ruhi understand about Abhir because he wants to bring Abhir home not just for Ruhi. He didn’t even think of his mom who loves him more than her life. It’s just about him always. Though I never liked AbM but never hated him too but now i don’t really connect with him anymore .Anyway we can agree to disagree.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: DevilsHeart

But Abhimanyu owed her after she repeatedly ignored her condition herself - she wants others to remain mindful of it why?

Divorce it between two people and it frees both so he shouldn’t be obligated to return or answer calls too then!

Why did Abhimanyu owe it to his wife to not abuse her? Because the Supreme Court says so.

Akshara doesn't and didn't owe him anything after getting divorced by him because divorce freed her from any spousal obligation. He ceased to be her spouse lol.

This not rocket science.

A teacher has obligation to teach a child till they are part of the educational institution


After either party leaves the institution, the obligation ceases to exist

A teacher cannot refuse to teach a student till they are part of the institute.

After one of them or both them move out of the institution, the obligation ends.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chaitu.V

His love is not unconditional, his love is selfish n he is shameless that’s the only reason he still loves a women who is married to another man and happy in her life that too after getting engaged to Ar and making big and fake promises to Ruhi.

@Bold he always tried to compete with Abhinav until showed him his real place and rejecting him .he stooped so low and threatened Abhinav to leave his wife and send her back to him. I don’t really understand how the 6yr innocent kid is being blamed for choosing his parents over his bio dad who he only knows from a few days/months. Abhir is more matured and sensible than this self centred Birla who cannot think anything beyond his happiness his DDP.

Ak nAbM r divorced couple and only on the basis of money he won the custody and he had to send Abhir because he threatened he will run away if he won’t send him back to his parents. He saw Abhir was not happy in BH but it took him to kid run away to realise how selfish he was . Any kid whose parents r divorced can only stay with one parent and other will have visiting rights ,so as a matured adult he should understand that but here he is making the kid feel guilty ,when the kid is already feeling bad and trying to make him happy. Am not saying he cannot feel bad but the way he is acting is extremely pathetic and I cannot connect with that extremity..

He never loved Ruhi n Abhir equally or else he would never talk about ending life because Abhir rejected him and chose his parents ,even in the summer camp he made Ruhi left out and hurt her badly, he made Ruhi understand about Abhir because he wants to bring Abhir home not just for Ruhi. He didn’t even think of his mom who loves him more than her life. It’s just about him always. Though I never liked AbM but never hated him too but now i don’t really connect with him anymore .Anyway we can agree to disagree.




Yes we will keep disagreeing on everything you just said. So lets not get further into this discussion.

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