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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Jenakt17

Now Akshara and Abhinav out of their own will want to cheer up Abhi because they can’t be happy unless Abhi is happy- which makes no sense especially for Akshara- she has been wanting Abhi just to leave her happy family alone and to go back to Kasauli- now he did that but now she is worried because Abhi isn’t happy. In what world, will someone be happy after being rejected by their own child and demoted to a friend.

So like Abhi goes against Akshara- she isn’t happy. Abhi gives her what she wants and leaves them alone- she isn’t happy.

So what exactly is Abhi supposed to do? He isn’t allowed to have time to get over his emotions?

Also, shouldn’t Akshara and Abhinav be dealing with their financial condition- this was brought up many times plus their child had a medical condition where they didn’t have enough money. You never know what can happen in the future- Abhir can fall sick again. So why aren’t they focusing on bettering their financial conditions instead of worrying about Abhi’s feelings when he never asked them to.

Red : Because that is what any human with empathy will do after seeing AbhiMs condition. It makes complete sense that they will try to make Abhir spend time with AbhiM so he can recover from this state. That is basic human decency. Same as what AbhiM wanted to do when he wanted to take Abhir to Kasauli when AK was sick.

Before you ask about why AK hid Abhir from AbhiM before,I will repeat what I said before it was because she was afraid AbhiM will snatch Abhir (and also Abhim has also said he does not care about his child over phone) and the reason of her fear is that same WD that everyone knows about.


Blue: I am sure SHarmas would have concentrated on working on their finances but you have to understand they need to spend time at a hillside so that Nav can fall down and die with AbhiM trying to catch him. Promos were already shown to viewers. Now the producer has to shoot the episode. If the Sharmas go back to Kasauli immediately after getting ABhir,how will that scene come true .😉

Edited by Aashiqanafan - 2 years ago
Posted: 2 years ago

First, Ak's one and only real rejection is when Abhi divorced her. That's it. In contrast, Abhi has had rejection from Ak multiple times. Every time the issue becomes, why isn't he just letting go and moving on? Ak asked him to do this from the beginning of the leap. If he is doing it now, what is the problem with that????


You are saying that he cannot handle rejection - yes, he cannot, no one can, but he is trying to. He is trying to handle it, but people aren't giving him space.


Second, you are saying he wants to be the center of attention; where exactly is this shown? For Arohi, it was shown in multiple ways how she wanted to be the center of attention. When has Abhi EVER taken anyone else's spotlight? Instead, he was more involved in putting others on the pedestal and clapping for them - whether it is his mom, Neil or Ak. He always put their feelings first in sooo many situations.


Third, Abhir is a kid and yes, putting his feelings first is important. So let me ask you, what was Abhi doing this WHOLE FREAKING TIME? He found out Abhir's truth but couldn't even express that he is his papa; why? For Abhir. Because he wanted to tell Abhir the truth properly and with Ak and Nav so he is not traumatized in anyways. Then once Abhir found out half truth, he still hid it, why ? Cause he did not want to affect Ak and Nav and their issues came first so he stepped back and allowed them to handle it. This whole time for the past five months, Abhi has been hiding his identity as Abhir's father and has been shown to be happy in morsels of love that Abhir was giving him, for Abhir's happiness. So he wouldn't hurt him.


After everything, after fighting a custody case that he didn't want to fight, he got to tell Abhir that he is actually his father. But Abhir, plain and simple rejected that. He didn't say that he wants to continue having Abhi in his life as his father; he said he wants him as a friend. That broke him and we saw how it broke him.


The fact is Abhi has been shown traumatized since the first leap. He has been shown depressed during these past six years. He has been shown putting on a show for the people he loves for sooo long. And now, when he is in the pits, he is still supposed to keep putting on a show? For whom? His son, who knows he is his real father but doesn't feel like he is and just wants him to be a friend?


Abhi will do that too. He will continue to be a presence in Abhir's life and keep loving him unconditionally because that is who he is. None of this means he is not going to love the kid. But he needs time to come out of his depressive episode. He needs the understanding of people around him to at least let him be if they can't do anything.


And he does not need pity of all things.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: lagjagale

First, Ak's one and only real rejection is when Abhi divorced her. That's it. In contrast, Abhi has had rejection from Ak multiple times. Every time the issue becomes, why isn't he just letting go and moving on? Ak asked him to do this from the beginning of the leap. If he is doing it now, what is the problem with that????


You are saying that he cannot handle rejection - yes, he cannot, no one can, but he is trying to. He is trying to handle it, but people aren't giving him space.


Second, you are saying he wants to be the center of attention; where exactly is this shown? For Arohi, it was shown in multiple ways how she wanted to be the center of attention. When has Abhi EVER taken anyone else's spotlight? Instead, he was more involved in putting others on the pedestal and clapping for them - whether it is his mom, Neil or Ak. He always put their feelings first in sooo many situations.


Third, Abhir is a kid and yes, putting his feelings first is important. So let me ask you, what was Abhi doing this WHOLE FREAKING TIME? He found out Abhir's truth but couldn't even express that he is his papa; why? For Abhir. Because he wanted to tell Abhir the truth properly and with Ak and Nav so he is not traumatized in anyways. Then once Abhir found out half truth, he still hid it, why ? Cause he did not want to affect Ak and Nav and their issues came first so he stepped back and allowed them to handle it. This whole time for the past five months, Abhi has been hiding his identity as Abhir's father and has been shown to be happy in morsels of love that Abhir was giving him, for Abhir's happiness. So he wouldn't hurt him.


After everything, after fighting a custody case that he didn't want to fight, he got to tell Abhir that he is actually his father. But Abhir, plain and simple rejected that. He didn't say that he wants to continue having Abhi in his life as his father; he said he wants him as a friend. That broke him and we saw how it broke him.


The fact is Abhi has been shown traumatized since the first leap. He has been shown depressed during these past six years. He has been shown putting on a show for the people he loves for sooo long. And now, when he is in the pits, he is still supposed to keep putting on a show? For whom? His son, who knows he is his real father but doesn't feel like he is and just wants him to be a friend?


Abhi will do that too. He will continue to be a presence in Abhir's life and keep loving him unconditionally because that is who he is. None of this means he is not going to love the kid. But he needs time to come out of his depressive episode. He needs the understanding of people around him to at least let him be if they can't do anything.


And he does not need pity of all things.


I have written multiple post comparing Abhimanyu and Aarohi since the beginning of season 3 with clear examples and scenes from the show. One was literally titled Abhimanyu and Aarohi. Do not have the time or energy to unearth those or write another essay chronologically.

The tagged people and so many who left the show and the forum because they can't take any more of Abhimanyu can attest to that. And if you are still interested, you can check for that on my profile, I guess.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Bruh, the justification for him getting engaged to Arohi for the first time, going through all the premarital functions with her, then faking a suicide to get her sister to "confess her feelings" and stranding her at the altar being he— a surgeon— got manipulated, cornered by Arohi— a med student is so laughable.

At no point did he — an adult— feel like telling his younger fiancé :

"hey, pal, you know I sent rishta for your sister and am physically, emotionally attracted to her. This very public engagement, mehendi, haldi are a terrible idea; let's stop it before it goes to the altar, and I fake a suicide to emotionally manipulate your sister to change her 'no' into a 'yes'. Because, you know, these things have social implications for you as a woman who is not only younger to me in age but also junior to me in the professional space."

you know when abhimanyu behaved like that with akshara ..it is exactly how he’s behaving now with abhir..he just wants to possess them at any cost..he wants them with him whether they want to be ŵith him or not. And that is not love..it’s obsession.I truly don’t know why they are writing abhimanyu this way..he’s supposed to be the male lead.but he really is an problematic man. He’s very messed up..he’s actually not normal.he needs therapy..I think they have based his character on that movie Kabir Singh. Now in Bollywood it can work as it’s only a 2 hour movie..so a messed up man can be the male lead as the movie ends after 2 hours and ŵe don’t see how this messed up man navigates through his whole life with the other characters..but on itv it’s months or years that we have to deal with the male lead..and a toxic unstable male lead is hard to handle..Virat was toxic in ghum but he wasn’t mentally unstable..but. Here abhimanyu is mentally unstable.. if you’re a father and a professional doctor and you are showing your 6 year old son that you are extremely unhappy and can’t handle your life..then you are unstable ..and need to see a psychiatrist . I don’t know how they expect us to accept abhimanyu as the male lead when he’s such a headache to watch onscreen. I just want to scream’’ ‘ go get help man’ ..you’re destroying your child’s happy life 🤦🏻‍♀️
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Posted: 2 years ago

Totally agree

So dramatic ,...🤣

Over flow of melodrama , the child is safe and happy but that is not the concern@

The ultimate victims card ...

Posted: 2 years ago

Manjari-abhi relationship was beautiful. She was abused, yes only manjari was abused, physically and mentally in her marriage, and her child had to witness it and bear the pain which seems incomprehensible for whatever reasons. It is beautiful becos they were there for each other, loyally might I add, through pain. And still stand by each other’s emotions. Abhi, she talks to her and ensures she understands her mistakes. We have seen both of them apologizing. This is character growth. Harsh apologizing for his abuse is also character growth. To quote your last line, concern is one thing, but crossing boundaries is another and not agreeable.

Edited by DreamOfEndless - 2 years ago
Posted: 2 years ago

I dint realize AK died after manjari’s talk. She seems quite happy in her Kasauli house as she claims and seems to have got her son back and even celebrate it. To the extent of again calling him sharmaji in private, clearly neither by court nor by manjari’s actions, she was stabbed to death.. if she is pretending to be happy but dead inside, that’s another story altogether as it invalidates her current happy life as well!

Edited by Ambajee - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Kid may want anything, it does not means parents also loose their IQ.

Akshara case's is a perfect example

Abhimanyu divorced her, after aimlessly roaming on the roads, climbed a bus and embarked a new life. When Manish Goenka went to bring his grand daughter back she refused to come.

Similarly during pre teen phase Aarohi went yada yada on Akshara.

Goenka's did nothing.

Children shouldn't make their parents dance, they should some amount of fear, discipline also.

Akshara Goenka and Abhimanyu Birla are textbook examples of bad parenting. Akshara getting humiliated by Aarohi, Abhimanyu fighting with his father has resulted in disaster.

They clearly took decisions only to harm each other.

Wrt to custody,

Abhimanyu divorced, he said no I don't want to do anything with Akshara or her child.

Fair, enough did he give in writing on stamp paper, get the document attested by a notary.

Legally Abhir case should go for joint custody, even out of court settlement is applicable in Sharma vs Birla custody case

DKP is just thriving on negative publicity to increase episode count.

This is certainly not the way to handle sensitive issues thru a story.

Posted: 2 years ago

reply: and when did he actually forced abhir. If he wanted he could have forced abhir with him cause he won the custody but he didn't. He let him go. Now he is feeling pain so he is crying. As far as I know he didn't even know today that abhir has came. He thought it was a dream.

Furthermore can't a man cry if he feels the pain.


Why r the rules different when Abhinav cries ? And am ok with men crying. They can feel the pain too.Why is it different and everyone should feel the pain when Mr.Selfish Birla the great cries? It looked very funny holding that teddy and running ,Abhir is only with him for a week or 2.

He won the custody only on the basis of money ,so he forced n snatched Abhir from his mom/parents. Even after noticing Abhir is unhappy in BH he never even thought of sending him back ,he also said he will fight in HC for his rights. And supported his mom’s evil acts saying only because of her his son is with him. Am not saying he should not feel the pain or he is wrong in thinking to spend time with Abhir but he should give some time and space to the kid to accept,. Today he is behaving childish and stupid and wanting to die ?seriously? Even Ak didn’t do so much drama when she lost the custody.


Ruhi is not something to heal his pain . Ruhi is his responsibility. Idk why things are forgettem in itv as per convenience but as you remember dying Neil took promise from both ak and abhi to take care of his baby but only abhi did and ak...I don't think even she remembers.

Yeah right iDK how things are conveniently forgotten , they showed Ruhi is the one who healed him from the pain.. but now unfortunately he prioritises his blood over Ruhi.

Yeah If parents have 2 kids and something happens to 1 kid they will be sad and broken but won’t drink and go die ,they will also think of the other kid but Mr.selfish Birla’s only priority is his own Khoon ,he hurt Ruhi very badly in the summer camp too prioritising Abhir. And now today without caring for her love or thinking about her he is ready to end his life ?what happened he conveniently forgot Neil’s promise ?


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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Annabethhoney

Atleast he waited for acceptance from his wife not like someone forced her to accept him

And Akshara submitted to such forceful acceptance - Why?

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