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Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

@bold there are families who themselves abandon their girl child. There are families who fix their marriage alliance against their wish but girls definitely have choice to be independent than being in abusive relationships instead of relying on anyone be it a stranger or person they already know. If we consider ifs there are too many ifs whatif Akshara lost the other child too because of stress given by Abhimanyu and Manjiri but that didn't happen. If that "if" didn't conceptualized in story than the "if" stranger trapped her also didn't. Assumptions not always turn true. Akshara didn't straightaway married stranger. She has seen stranger saving her life, caring for her. What if we consider about story swapping characters of Abhinav and Abhimanyu. Abhinav Birla and Abhimanyu Sharma. Abhinav Birla (Jay) divorced Akshara he and his mother Manjiri blamed Akshara for Neil's death where Abhimanyu Sharma (Harshad) being the stranger who saved her life, her child's life gave them a happy and normal life without blame game & toxicity. Would people react same way? There are so many fictional characters/stories involving girl running away from home and relying on stranger which shouldn't be glorified but same way grieving or non-grieving MIL and husband blaming, hurling insults, harassing and throwing DILs out of their lives in their lowest possible mental and physical state shouldn't also be glorified.

I am going to reply for myself and yes i would have if they were to execute the same storyline the same way. I would have reacted the same way.

It's not about Jay and HC honestly. The execution is poor for me. I can't resonates with Akshara and Abhinav and I can see the redemption of Abhimanyu.

I can say for myself that when I talk i talk about the characters and not the actors

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

I don't watch many itv shows. The only reason i decided to try this was for hc. I agree indian serials are toxic and we have to keep logic aside.

That's why i am finding hard to understand why Abhimanyu's behaviour is glorified as if no one did this in entire history of itv.

Let me give you recent example. In n6 prathna was blamed of her child's death and her husband shesh naag takes the other kid with him. But no one reacted the way ppl reacting for abhi. The only reason why abhi divorced akshu was it is illegal to show on itv that fl is married without divorcing her first husband.

Other than that whatever abhi did was normal considering itv standards.

If we are not questioning akshu's choices saying it's a fictional show then why to use words like abuse , toxic for a character who was loved by many and was ruined over night to bring a leap and show a new character.

In the end either we have to treat it's a fiction and stop using big words to justify characters action or we have to condemn characters action by considering real life scenarion.

I choose to avoid mixing fiction and reality but i have seen many ppl just defending their love for a character by bring real life. Which i also did but i personally don't take preleap scenes seriously.

You are free to disagree on this.

Exactly it is fiction then y using words like cruel mother,worst parent,flipper, bad omen , manipulator etc for ak too….when we prefer no name calling and mocking some aspects them it should be two way process…both sides of them teams should stop it…if one doesn’t stop then can’t expect other side to stop it
It’s like give respect and take respect type

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

@bold there are families who themselves abandon their girl child. There are families who fix their marriage alliance against their wish but girls definitely have choice to be independent than being in abusive relationships instead of relying on anyone be it a stranger or person they already know. If we consider ifs there are too many ifs whatif Akshara lost the other child too because of stress given by Abhimanyu and Manjiri but that didn't happen. If that "if" didn't conceptualized in story than the "if" stranger trapped her also didn't. Assumptions not always turn true. Akshara didn't straightaway married stranger. She has seen stranger saving her life, caring for her. What if we consider about story swapping characters of Abhinav and Abhimanyu. Abhinav Birla and Abhimanyu Sharma. Abhinav Birla (Jay) divorced Akshara he and his mother Manjiri blamed Akshara for Neil's death where Abhimanyu Sharma (Harshad) being the stranger who saved her life, her child's life gave them a happy and normal life without blame game & toxicity. Would people react same way? There are so many fictional characters/stories involving girl running away from home and relying on stranger which shouldn't be glorified but same way grieving or non-grieving MIL and husband blaming, hurling insults, harassing and throwing DILs out of their lives in their lowest possible mental and physical state shouldn't also be glorified.

In that case also Abhinav will be the bad guy🙂

Look at whats going now.....He helped a lifeless stranger and rescued her from police. Took care of her for 7months and saved her and kid during her labor.

He considered them as family and even treated the people who are doing bad to him and destroying his family with respect.

He is blamed now for being good then if he is abusive then no doubt he will be trashed(and should be too if he is bad)....

Originally posted by: chaipaani

I am going to reply for myself and yes i would have if they were to execute the same storyline the same way. I would have reacted the same way.

It's not about Jay and HC honestly. The execution is poor for me. I can't resonates with Akshara and Abhinav and I can see the redemption of Abhimanyu.

I can say for myself that when I talk i talk about the characters and not the actors

They didn’t show proper redemption track for abhim yet….that’s y people r pissed at abhim character without redemption or proper sorry….don’t tell me he said sorry…coz he didn’t realise where he did wrong and not genuine one too it was to kill his guilt not that he felt he did wrong

Originally posted by: Annabethhoney

They didn’t show proper redemption track for abhim yet….that’s y people r pissed at abhim character without redemption or proper sorry….don’t tell me he said sorry…coz he didn’t realise where he did wrong and not genuine one too it was to kill his guilt not that he felt he did wrong

Actions speak louder than words. He is trying. He silently take any attitude that AK throws at him. He accepts that it was his fault that he missed the life of his son for 6 years. He wants to be there for him now and as a father not just docman. He accepted that he lost the one he loved cause he let his anger take first gear in life. He is a good father figure to Ruhi and he wants to be a good father to Abhir without removing anyone from his life.

Redemption toh AK ka bhi nahi hai. See when two people are present in an accident somewhere and one dies. People usually ask the story from the who survived and it's very natural to not blame the one who died. As a human you say sorry to the people effected I don't see that in AK.

Other when she can be emotional watching Abhir and Manju interact ( ref mimi bday then in shaadi now)

When she can ask Abhi jam mein help kardo and all. All these incidents refers to whatever happened we can't go back as lovers but we are good but then try to not let him be the father is also doesn't reflect good.

There are many things making Akshnav flawed humans too but let's keep it for another day.

About Abhi I will just say in my view he is not a criminal, or a pathetic human being who deserves to die alone ( not my words but words of many others)

He made mistakes and he is trying this the best you are going to get it is ITV. So he deserves second chances too and specially he deserves to be a part of his son's life .

Originally posted by: BlissfulDays

@bold

Ohh respect and Abhimanyu in the same line 👏, the same respect he showed divorcing her and leaving her to die

Akshara has shown him enough respect by allowing him to be part of Abhir life , she got panic attacks due to his presence , Abhinav was uncomfortable yet they gave him roof, only for his mother to act like a homewrecker she is, couldn't save her relationship so goes on destroying all beautiful family

@red

What role has he in Abhir life , where was he for 6 years. The child could've died in Labour , if it wasn't for Abhinav taking him to hospital or if Abhinav hadn't hugged him for days. A person becomes a parent through love and care , from nurturing , not blood

@green

Kids part from parents when they're old enough to take care of themselves for example when they leave for college not at 6 but abhir will have to leave home soon if he lives with birlas like shivu coz that's their parenting

@blue

You uproot a tree and then expect it to grow, the tree would only wilt. Same with Abhir look how silent he's and Abhir was a lively child. Ruhi who's a kid got that easily. I know these little babies will plot together and bring Abhir back to his parents like Ruhi promised , he'll run away soon with Ruhi help. Akshnav love will be his calling. Abhimanyu destroyed 3 lives in his ego

Hey u wrote and summed it up really well 🙂👍

Originally posted by: chaipaani

Actions speak louder than words. He is trying. He silently take any attitude that AK throws at him. He accepts that it was his fault that he missed the life of his son for 6 years. He wants to be there for him now and as a father not just docman. He accepted that he lost the one he loved cause he let his anger take first gear in life. He is a good father figure to Ruhi and he wants to be a good father to Abhir without removing anyone from his life.

Redemption toh AK ka bhi nahi hai. See when two people are present in an accident somewhere and one dies. People usually ask the story from the who survived and it's very natural to not blame the one who died. As a human you say sorry to the people effected I don't see that in AK.

Other when she can be emotional watching Abhir and Manju interact ( ref mimi bday then in shaadi now)

When she can ask Abhi jam mein help kardo and all. All these incidents refers to whatever happened we can't go back as lovers but we are good but then try to not let him be the father is also doesn't reflect good.

There are many things making Akshnav flawed humans too but let's keep it for another day.

About Abhi I will just say in my view he is not a criminal, or a pathetic human being who deserves to die alone ( not my words but words of many others)

He made mistakes and he is trying this the best you are going to get it is ITV. So he deserves second chances too and specially he deserves to be a part of his son's life .

his actions😂😂 he gave attitude to abhinav who genuinely wants abhim in abhir life and gave him many things about abhir childhood like photos and all…gave his soo much attitude af and after he went to kasuli he reduced it and mingled with sharmas…he use to show off before abhinav that he is bio father and all …yess his actions like staying quiet when his mother is bashing ak and abhinav and called abhinav bad man…silence is agreement with his mother….him wanting to be in abhir life ad father figure is good but how he treated abhinav went he found out…instead of thanking for saving his kid…he called him bad man and chor….

about ak….when she came down during neils death she was not given opportunity for that sorry or explanation why she went out…after knowing truth too she didn’t get chance for explanation…I don’t watch N6 or others currently soo don’t know what’s going on…many things make akshnav flawed humans but wndbof the day they r humans….but abhim is also flawed bit people r not accepting him as human who have flaws l…for them he is flawless so any mistakes of him is seen in magnifying glasses…he doesn’t deserve to die similarly abhinav doesn’t deserve to die alone too…as u said above it was accident then without fault why one must be sorry…it was like directly blaming ak for sirat accident

Originally posted by: Annabethhoney

his actions😂😂 he gave attitude to abhinav who genuinely wants abhim in abhir life and gave him many things about abhir childhood like photos and all…gave his soo much attitude af and after he went to kasuli he reduced it and mingled with sharmas…he use to show off before abhinav that he is bio father and all …yess his actions like staying quiet when his mother is bashing ak and abhinav and called abhinav bad man…silence is agreement with his mother….him wanting to be in abhir life ad father figure is good but how he treated abhinav went he found out…instead of thanking for saving his kid…he called him bad man and chor….

about ak….when she came down during neils death she was not given opportunity for that sorry or explanation why she went out…after knowing truth too she didn’t get chance for explanation…I don’t watch N6 or others currently soo don’t know what’s going on…many things make akshnav flawed humans but wndbof the day they r humans….but abhim is also flawed bit people r not accepting him as human who have flaws l…for them he is flawless so any mistakes of him is seen in magnifying glasses…he doesn’t deserve to die similarly abhinav doesn’t deserve to die alone too…as u said above it was accident then without fault why one must be sorry…it was like directly blaming ak for sirat accident

@bold he gave attitude to the person who called him his friend yet decided to hid the biggest truth of his life.

About his behaviour during that time was not good agreed.

Let's not discuss WD today some other day maybe.

About Abhimanyu being flawless i never said that he is flawed human but so are others. I don't take responsibility for what others say or think but if you have ever noticed my responses you may have realised that I don't call Abhimanyu flawless.

Adding on his actions: He mellowed down otherwise he could have shown that same attitude after winning.

Tbh the attitude AK has shown him before the verdict if it was me i would have but he tries to understand their pain.

Originally posted by: chaipaani

@bold he gave attitude to the person who called him his friend yet decided to hid the biggest truth of his life.

About his behaviour during that time was not good agreed.

Let's not discuss WD today some other day maybe.

About Abhimanyu being flawless i never said that he is flawed human but so are others. I don't take responsibility for what others say or think but if you have ever noticed my responses you may have realised that I don't call Abhimanyu flawless.

Adding on his actions: He mellowed down otherwise he could have shown that same attitude after winning.

Tbh the attitude AK has shown him before the verdict if it was me i would have but he tries to understand their pain.

Being reason of pain and showing sympathy….is like slapping someone wantedly and asking them sorry did u feel pain

Originally posted by: Annabethhoney

Being reason of pain and showing sympathy….is like slapping someone wantedly and asking them sorry did u feel pain

He didn't file the case. He was the defendant.

Whereas the Plaintiffs who fear this day, who was supposed to preparing for this day lost.

So I am sorry but i don't agree with this analogy being apt in this situation.