What's the problem? - Page 3

Originally posted by: PeacefulLove

Dekho many people started watching after Jay joined so yeah they will not support what they saw on white day.

And some original fans were already against Abhimanyu with Aarohis first marriage breakup..

Some people like me don't like Abhimanyus behavior after marriage as I found him too controlling as husband

And even Akshara is bashed very much. But people don't mind that. I think it's Abhimanyu vs Abhinav now. Before it was Abhimanyu vs Aarohi. All Aarohi fans left the forum because Abhira fans started reporting them for every posts. Abhinav is good guy and uski bashing annoys people. Abhimanyu lot of them like because deep down they love Harshad and uski bhi bashing annoys people.

And daily thread which I don't know if it's still same because I don't visit anymore but some time ago every post they used to bash acha aadmi.

Other thing I forgot to mention.. They justify bashing Abhinav because he is taking leads screenspace. Matlab yeh Kya BAAT hui. If your watching for leads someone else might be watching for Abhinav na. And Abhinav is not deciding screenspace for him. They call them nepostic without any proof.

Yeah I think like you said no one's opinion is going to change by these posts but atleast both sides can take a step to respect each other's opinions. If some section of audience is watching for leads, some is also watching for story and changes.

100% agree to all the points

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Abusing people for any of this is not justified as I said there are Moderators to regulate the forum, we can report the post or bring things to their attention. If you see someone making casteist/classist or racist remarks then call them out

Calling them out - Don't do or say things like these

Discussing one incident in a separate thread by calling them blind and what not is not correct

Do you not see this as mocking handicapped people? Is "blind" something which can be used for abusing people?

If you are looking for issues, you can look for them everywhere

I am not oversensitive. There are real issues in real life

And? Both the sets of people can be called out. This false eqivalency doesn't hold. You might not have issues with people using words as "kokhless" and "manhoos, gandi naali se nikal ke aaya" for a disabled kid. Or, "it is very hard for orphans to be as nice as Abhinav is being" in public discourse just because these statements are made about fictional characters, doesn't mean that the people who are reading these shitty statements are fictional, feelingless too.

As you are concerned about the feelings of people writing these absolutely triggering and ad hominen statements, I am concerned about the feelings of the readers.

Just because you are not oversensitive doesn't mean other people have to excuse or accept shitty biases.

Calling people out, as you said, is not abuse. No one here is abusing people for not liking Akshnav.

Reflect on your privilege fgs.

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Abusing people for any of this is not justified as I said there are Moderators to regulate the forum, we can report the post or bring things to their attention. If you see someone making casteist/classist or racist remarks then call them out

None has made a casteist or classist or sexist remak in this thread, so what are we calling out exactly?

If you are looking for issues, you can look for them everywhere

I am not oversensitive. There are real issues in real life

I think they meant to reply about the term 'moral policing' used in this thread...

When anyone is called out on their insensitive classist or sexist comment... Maybe the person/people who called out are then labelled as moral policers....

Atleast that is what I interpreted ..

Originally posted by: umawanderer

I think they meant to reply about the term 'moral policing' used in this thread...

When anyone is called out on their insensitive classist or sexist comment... Maybe the person/people who called out are then labelled as moral policers....

Atleast that is what I interpreted ..

Exactly, thanks!

Originally posted by: PeacefulLove

Dekho many people started watching after Jay joined so yeah they will not support what they saw on white day.

And some original fans were already against Abhimanyu with Aarohis first marriage breakup..

Some people like me don't like Abhimanyus behavior after marriage as I found him too controlling as husband

And even Akshara is bashed very much. But people don't mind that. I think it's Abhimanyu vs Abhinav now. Before it was Abhimanyu vs Aarohi. All Aarohi fans left the forum because Abhira fans started reporting them for every posts. Abhinav is good guy and uski bashing annoys people. Abhimanyu lot of them like because deep down they love Harshad and uski bhi bashing annoys people.

And daily thread which I don't know if it's still same because I don't visit anymore but some time ago every post they used to bash acha aadmi.

Other thing I forgot to mention.. They justify bashing Abhinav because he is taking leads screenspace. Matlab yeh Kya BAAT hui. If your watching for leads someone else might be watching for Abhinav na. And Abhinav is not deciding screenspace for him. They call them nepostic without any proof.

Yeah I think like you said no one's opinion is going to change by these posts but atleast both sides can take a step to respect each other's opinions. If some section of audience is watching for leads, some is also watching for story and changes.

I agree to all points. As far as i remember ppl bashed makers for taking away akshu's lime light. As during abhir's track as a mother she was supposed to outshine and show her desperation to save her kid.but not sure if it was any other sequence. I personally have skipped those epis so i will not comment on them much.

Akshara is getting bashed because the way she deals with the situation is very annoying to many ppl. Even shows like anupama shows women are strong but makers are showing her weak or coward or taking decision which may harm her kid. People tend see themselves in that position and question her decision.

I believe abhimanyu ka bhi wohi hua tha where some people have faced such issues in real life so they may not like abhimanyu. But some people might have not have faced such issues in real life. So they have seen these in all other itv shows. For them it looks normal as ml just bashed fl she left she got pregnant and 6 saal ke baad they will meet its typical story. So people may not judge abhi for this.

But that does not mean people don't know who is wrong and who is right.that does not mean fans are regressive or kids or some one who don't understand whats correct and what's wrong. Everyone are grown up here they can like whatever they want to like. I personally know whatever happend on white day is wrong but i also know its a normal itv plot why to make so much fuss about it. That's how i grown up seeing all these regressive shows so my way of thinking goes with the shows that i have watched till now so other people might also have reason to justify their liking.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

And? Both the sets of people can be called out. This false eqivalency doesn't hold. You might not have issues with people using words as "kokhless" and "manhoos, gandi naali se nikal ke aaya" for a disabled kid. Or, "it is very hard for orphans to be as nice as Abhinav is being" in public discourse just because these statements are made about fictional characters, doesn't mean that the people who are reading these shitty statements are fictional, feelingless too.

As you are concerned about the feelings of people writing these absolutely triggering and ad hominen statements, I am concerned about the feelings of the readers.

Just because you are not oversensitive doesn't mean other people have to excuse or accept shitty biases.

Calling people out, as you said, is not abuse. No one here is abusing people for not liking Akshnav.

Reflect on your privilege fgs.

Calling out doesn't mean you are gonna abuse people 🤦‍♀️

The post is not calling out anyone, please you are trying to derail the topic to justify abusing and name calling. Did I abuse or hurt anyone? 🤦‍♀️

All I said was that fan groups should not be targeted because what discussion will result from this constant attacks on fan groups?

Who made casteist/racist remarks in this thread to be called out? They can be called out where they do it and calling out someone doesn't really involve unnecessary mocking and attacking, it involves....well.. calling out them for it

Ghum forum is a different ball game, I have been defending and stopping people from attacking Neil and Aishwarya for years there.

The kind of sl*t shaming, sexist, classist remarks you see there in every thread is mind boggling, I am not new there

Pakhi being called kokhless is supported by everyone because they hate her, Pakhi's blouse and the amount of skin showing is discussed at lengths. I even had to post SS of those discussions to bring it to attention of moderators for it to stop. I was attacked and everyone jumped on me saying she deserves it

What happened? Nothing, people still do it as you witnessed yesterday.

So, you can keep fighting with people or you just report and move on and let the moderators handle it which I am planning to do here too, as I can't keep explaining why abusing or attacking real people is not correct

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

I agree to all points. As far as i remember ppl bashed makers for taking away akshu's lime light. As during abhir's track as a mother she was supposed to outshine and show her desperation to save her kid.but not sure if it was any other sequence. I personally have skipped those epis so i will not comment on them much.

Akshara is getting bashed because the way she deals with the situation is very annoying to many ppl. Even shows like anupama shows women are strong but makers are showing her weak or coward or taking decision which may harm her kid. People tend see themselves in that position and question her decision.

I believe abhimanyu ka bhi wohi hua tha where some people have faced such issues in real life so they may not like abhimanyu. But some people might have not have faced such issues in real life. So they have seen these in all other itv shows. For them it looks normal as ml just bashed fl she left she got pregnant and 6 saal ke baad they will meet its typical story. So people may not judge abhi for this.

But that does not mean people don't know who is wrong and who is right.that does not mean fans are regressive or kids or some one who don't understand whats correct and what's wrong. Everyone are grown up here they can like whatever they want to like. I personally know whatever happend on white day is wrong but i also know its a normal itv plot why to make so much fuss about it. That's how i grown up seeing all these regressive shows so my way of thinking goes with the shows that i have watched till now so other people might also have reason to justify their liking.

Sahi bola at the end of the day its ITV plot and fiction.

All we can do is respect each other's opinion, be considerate, nice and don't hurt anyone especially real people.

Originally posted by: PeacefulLove

Sahi bola at the end of the day its ITV plot and fiction.

All we can do is respect each other's opinion, be considerate, nice and don't hurt anyone especially real people.

Thank You

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Calling out doesn't mean you are gonna abuse people 🤦‍♀️

The post is not calling out anyone, please you are trying to derail the topic to justify abusing and name calling. Did I abuse or hurt anyone? 🤦‍♀️

All I said was that fan groups should not be targeted because what discussion will result from this constant attacks on fan groups?

Who made casteist/racist remarks in this thread to be called out? They can be called out where they do it and calling out someone doesn't really involve unnecessary mocking and attacking, it involves....well.. calling out them for it

Ghum forum is a different ball game, I have been defending and stopping people from attacking Neil and Aishwarya for years there.

The kind of sl*t shaming, sexist, classist remarks you see there in every thread is mind boggling, I am not new there

Pakhi being called kokhless is supported by everyone because they hate her, Pakhi's blouse and the amount of skin showing is discussed at lengths. I even had to post SS of those discussions to bring it to attention of moderators for it to stop. I was attacked and everyone jumped on me saying she deserves it

What happened? Nothing, people still do it as you witnessed yesterday.

So, you can keep fighting with people or you just report and move on and let the moderators handle it which I am planning to do here too, as I can't keep explaining why abusing or attacking real people is not correct

Firstly, I was responding to your og comment which had the following statement :

"Fictional characters are not real people with feelings who'd get hurt if I make fun of them, what's with attacking real people for fictional characters?"

... by reiterating that people can be called out, criticised, and even satirised for passing off regressive biases onto fictional character which is what happens on this forum with Abhinav. He is mocked not for his actions but his socioeconomic background including his dialect. The sexist tropes in the "Accha Admi" taunts are too apparent lol.

Secondly, where in :

"What's the problem with so called Abhira fans? You people can hate AK, Nav, Manjiri, Aarohi, other ckt. But can't give a single justification for Abhimanyu. More problem with Nav. If he is good so what's your problem? Today episode was too good but no hum to bhai jaise hai waise rahenge.

If you can please come here do justify for your favorite character without defame other. Please justify these.

Is it ok for you Abhi offered divorce AK 2nd time?

Is it ok for u Abhi called him murderer of Sairat?

Is it ok for u Abhi didn't listen phone calls?

Is it ok for u when he purpose AK last time when he know she is married to someone else and a mother?

Is it ok for u when he asked a men to return his wife?

Is it ok for u if AK & Neil didn't tried to save those girls?

Is it ok for u if Nav didn't take her to the hospital?

First justify all these then talk about other action or reaction. Why AK got married to some stranger? Why can't she live like a single mother? Why Nav is too attached with Abhir? Why she is not revealing paternity truth? Why she is behaving like Manjri?"

... the og commenter's post is the Abhira fd being "abused" instead of being called out to explain their biased comments on a fictional woman (i.e why she chose to remarry instead of remaining single)

I penned this post because I am getting irritate when people bash Nav without no reason. Calling him emotional manipulator, useless, AA, bacha chor, chomu etc aur yahan tak fir bhi thik tha but I got triggered when people calling out Jai. Character assassination is too much. U people get triggered when I called you for bash a real person when u only get entertained but actors k liye entertainment to nahi hota wo apna kaam kar rahe hain. I really don't care who is watching what for whom? But if you getting entertainment with fictional story so don't attack the real person. When people can call him by all these name then don't u think I should ask the reason about hate.

Speach right hai apne opinion de sakte hain to iska matlab ye nahi hai ki kuch bhi bolte rahenge. I didn't even used a single abusive word for anyone real ho ya reel.