my musings..

just my thoughts........

maybe some will turn out to be long rants.

Did writers really butcher Abhimanyu on white day?

I guess, I am the only person who did not feel that. I understand that I only saw few episodes here and there and was not really into the Abhira thing.. I did not like Abhimanyu anyways.. I only saw till tilak 1 where he was suddenly like akshu akshu.. without even finding out that she loved him.

Anyway I did not find their udaipur romance much good anyways... (that rant later)

And when I saw next.. he was getting engaged to Arohi.. but was blackmailing(?) Akshara.. I don't know.. I did not see that.. Then the whole wedding festival.. I saw that to see the majestic wedding and because the promos gave me the 'hamari banno pyaari' song. But what was happening after the wedding.. the first morning of Akshara's in the birla house the papa and beta birla have a row about the sabudana kheer.

Then I see that him and manjari avoid her and sometimes be rude to her during the neil truth reveal arc...

then I see the promo with 'saas mei teri saas milli' promo off separation (Now that I know what happened in that stupid leap.. all I feel is sad that I missed Mrunal jain's perfoemance... I used to like him.. he overacts sometimes.. but many times he is kinda decent)

Then another promo of Akshara's complicated pregnancy...

And then started watching from Jay soni's entry only waiting for him to exit gracefully(preferably saving Abhir)

The point is.... I am cursed...

Whenever I watch YRKKH3 Abhimanyu is the worst partner.. I never saw all the good things he did..

I am sure that he must have done some really great things... since many of the fans say that

But I really did not find the character was butchered on white day.

He is always the person I would think to take decisions based on his extremely volatile emotions. He always makes decisions and then regrets on it.

His treatment towards her after the tilak 1 fiasco. and later the neil truth makes me feel that he is that kind of emotional person who takes impulsive decisions.

I only saw few episodes of niel's truth arc.. but then in that arc.. he says to akshu that the marriage was mistake..

When Abimanyu is angry or sad he does not exactly show much wisdom o make much sense.

Abhimanyu reminds me of my paternal grandfather and my father a lot.. that is their extremity in showing their love or hatred..

Both my grandfather and father can bring down stars to earth for you when they love you but can be really cruel when they are angry.

My grandfather literally just kicked my grandmother out of the house and my grandmother was equally angry at him went to her 'mayka' only for my grandfather to bring her back few days after apologizing to her.

My dad often says "If you want live under my house then you have to follow my rules or else leave my house" But my mom was much more composed person so just basically ignores his outburst like some rubbish.

I am not saying the anger makes you a bad person.. everyone gets angry.

But no matter how much angry you are isn't there a basic line of sensibility you shouldn't cross?

When Abimaynyu gets angry at Akshara I always felt that is anger is less rightful and more vindictive.

What was the need for him to say that their marriage was a mistake (during the niel reveal arc)

What was the need to bring Sirat maa topic?

For me, it always felt that it was to make Akshu feel bad.. to tear her.. to break her.. because in his eyes.. she was not sad enough.. or repenting enough.. or was not sorry enough..

He was feeling like the hell so how dare she be calm.. or appear calm.. or appear normal.. or appear less sad...

Whenever Abhimanyu made his impulsive decisions he was in one of his extreme moods and was not satisfied with Akshara's reaction/ I have no idea what he wanted during the white day.. but Akshara was nearly as much broken as he wanted her to be.. hence his reason to break her..

So When I saw the white day, I could totally see Abhimanyu doing that.. I did not feel that his character was butchered at all..

Ok so Am I saying that he was really bad.. Oh god no.. actually far from it... He is a good guy but with extremely volatile personality and values his pain more than anyone else's.

There is no doubt that he must have supported Akshu many times.. but if he was suffering.. then he can only feel his suffering.

There also one another thing that makes him somewhat redeemable(in a weird way????)

That is he reserves his ugly side only for those who he believe are his(?). In this case, Akshara and few members in his family(maybe even Mahadev). After finding about AK-Nav, he could have unleashed his anger or said hurtful things to Nav. He could have done anything.. but he was really respectful towards Nav.. even though he felt extremely hurt seeing Ak with someone else. But here, he controlled.. tried to compose himself.. Couldn't he have done the same during the white day or niel truth reveal arc? No.. because Akshu was his... Akshu can see his dark side.. because love.

IF he can consider Abhinav's feelings, then he could also consider Akshu's feelings too.. but then again.. Akhu was his love.. and Abhinav was only a stranger.. He cannot hurt a stranger but he can hurt what was his..

This kid of love feels like a double edged sword.. no one can hurt her.. but I can do what ever I can because she is mine.. we are one..

Now to all those people who cry saying that because of one bad thing, all of Abimanyu's good deeds were forgotten.. for them, I would like to say, "Welcome to real world.. It sucks..."

When my maternal grandmother was getting married her father had only one advice to 18 year old girl "No matter how many good things you do, if you do one bad thing... people will only remember only the bad stuff... so be careful..."

We can see it in real life... if a celebrity does some thing remotely bad.... the bad thing will be bought up much more requently.. no matter how many good things he does...

There are people who remember the good stuff.. but majority will remember only the bad stuff... It is really sad..

Unpopular opinion

I never liked Harshad's angry man portrayal

I have seen Tere liye.. and I loved Anurag's character... I don't remember if he had that many angry scenes but just love the whole series..

but then when ever he played angry young man.. i felt it a bit on over acting side.. humsafurs.. that show with jenifer winget..

But to be fair I only saw few people pulling the angry man character nicely.. amithab bachchan.. ronit roy

I agree with most of your points, but yeah, you definitely missed the good parts of Abhi and, more importantly, how much Ak pushed him in many cases. His anger is always shown as his worst quality and likely why Abhira separates. He is angry with everyone in the beginning. With people he loves, Ak, Manjari, Neil, he is patient and tries to understand them and everything. But Ak is extremely stubborn and believes that other's pain is more important that hers. They both consider each other to be a part of themselves. So ak often sacrifices both hers and abhi's happiness for others. Meanwhile, Abhi keeps screaming that he needs her to look at him too. And he is extra vindictive towards her.

I am not supporting Abhi in any case for the white day. He can be blind in his anger and deserves the fate he brought upon himself. But there is a broader thing at play here.

Finally, the idea that Abhira should not have married was implanted from the beginning. If you are an old yrkkh fan, Akshara-Naitik had full family support, Naira-Kartik at least had full support from Naira's side of the family. But Ak-Abhi were told from both sides of the family, not to get married. No one wanted them together, including manjari. When there is so much negativity its hard to maintain faith in yourself and your choices. So, both Abhira at some point or other, have questioned it.

So you're trying to say that abhinanyu wasn't butchered that day , he was already butchered from Tilak #1 with aroo, hhmm? 🤔 I agree.

The good deeds which we're not counting ?pl add on..

Job karlo

Meri akshu hospital mei therapist banegi So I made a music department for her (In today's time will this privilege be gifted to a lady by her husband ? )

I get blackmailed from aroo for not disclosing akshus reports that her chances of conceiving are less

Akshu tum ye nahi khaogi, yahan nahi jaogi , laxman rekha room ki Paar nahi karogi Yada Yada

Akshu ki life ke saath 0.00000001% chance bhi main nahi loonga

Breaking his hand to save akshu

Telling the goenkas to keep a chk on aroo as akshu keeps taking blames for her.

Etc etc

But..

What abt the times when situations were not favorable and everyone including himself blamed akshu ?

simple answer.... It was akshus fault , she pushed him , she makes him angry.

The last part is so troublesomE. It's called victim shaming.

I understand, emotions got the worse off him , and he reacted that way but like u said he crossed many lines that day .. is there redemption possible for literally anything ? I ask again what's the lowest low of abhimanyu ?

Originally posted by: lagjagale

I agree with most of your points, but yeah, you definitely missed the good parts of Abhi and, more importantly, how much Ak pushed him in many cases. His anger is always shown as his worst quality and likely why Abhira separates. He is angry with everyone in the beginning. With people he loves, Ak, Manjari, Neil, he is patient and tries to understand them and everything. But Ak is extremely stubborn and believes that other's pain is more important that hers. They both consider each other to be a part of themselves. So ak often sacrifices both hers and abhi's happiness for others. Meanwhile, Abhi keeps screaming that he needs her to look at him too. And he is extra vindictive towards her.

I am not supporting Abhi in any case for the white day. He can be blind in his anger and deserves the fate he brought upon himself. But there is a broader thing at play here.

Finally, the idea that Abhira should not have married was implanted from the beginning. If you are an old yrkkh fan, Akshara-Naitik had full family support, Naira-Kartik at least had full support from Naira's side of the family. But Ak-Abhi were told from both sides of the family, not to get married. No one wanted them together, including manjari. When there is so much negativity its hard to maintain faith in yourself and your choices. So, both Abhira at some point or other, have questioned it.

@bold: Even if ak pushed him... was there a reason to be that vindictive? does love gives you the right to be cruel towards your loved ones... Was he ever this vindictive with manjari.. whom he loves a lot? No with manjari.. he calms down himself. Why only with ak that he gets to do whatever he wants?

I understand that many people feel that showing your true self to loved ones is true love.. And Abhi is only able to be true in front of Ak as she is his soul love(?)

But this does not look like showing his true self... it feels more like unleashing his true self... Ak had to bear it all and she is his one and only soul love.

If he can patiently understand hois mother and brother in anger.. why not the same with Ak?

@red: Maybe the Birlas and Goenkas were right.. if they were actually compatible maybe Abhi would have maintained boundaries in anger and try to understand Ak also just like his mother and brother.. and definitely not take her for granted. And Ak would have been smarter and would try to understand that after marriage she does not have the right to sacrifice both their happiness as they belong to two people now...

Originally posted by: Krinya

So you're trying to say that abhinanyu wasn't butchered that day , he was already butchered from Tilak #1 with aroo, hhmm? 🤔 I agree.

The good deeds which we're not counting ?pl add on..

Job karlo

Meri akshu hospital mei therapist banegi So I made a music department for her (In today's time will this privilege be gifted to a lady by her husband ? )

I get blackmailed from aroo for not disclosing akshus reports that her chances of conceiving are less

Akshu tum ye nahi khaogi, yahan nahi jaogi , laxman rekha room ki Paar nahi karogi Yada Yada

Akshu ki life ke saath 0.00000001% chance bhi main nahi loonga

Breaking his hand to save akshu

Telling the goenkas to keep a chk on aroo as akshu keeps taking blames for her.

Etc etc

But..

What abt the times when situations were not favorable and everyone including himself blamed akshu ?

simple answer.... It was akshus fault , she pushed him , she makes him angry.

The last part is so troublesomE. It's called victim shaming.

I understand, emotions got the worse off him , and he reacted that way but like u said he crossed many lines that day .. is there redemption possible for literally anything ? I ask again what's the lowest low of abhimanyu ?

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AS I said, I did not see those many good points....

but well.. breaking your hand to save your soul love.. might have been the one that everyone were talking about...

@bold: Yes, that is what it is called... victim shaming.. but some people interpret it as true love... I never understood that.. but to some people love give right to unleash your ugly side as they being the true love can handle all your side.. good and bad... other people can not do that as they are not true love.. Abhi can do whatever he wants and Ak should and will be able to handle it as she was/is(?) soul love..

And sadly.. Ak also believes it.. Ak still loves Abhi. Deep down Ak feels Abhi had the right to hurt her because he loves her so much.

She would never realize that there are people who would not hurt you when they are hurt just like when Nav was extremely hurt and was trying not to hurt Ak because of his pain out of respect for her.

I never understood that part.. does love give you right to hurt your loved ones?

@bold, I am not supporting this thought process, I am explaining it. Abhi considered Ak to be a part of himself and thus did not filter nearly as much as he should with her. In doing so, he did not respect her as a separate person with thoughts and feelings. That is the crux of this leap

@red, yes, their worst qualities have always been too much for their love. Abhi's anger overpowers him, and Ak's self-sacrifice overpowers her love. The point of all of these separations is to address that, and hopefully, have some character development to a point where they can be better versions of themselves and be together. But the writers have butchered a lot of it, so its hard to say.

Originally posted by: umawanderer

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AS I said, I did not see those many good points....

but well.. breaking your hand to save your soul love.. might have been the one that everyone were talking about...

@bold: Yes, that is what it is called... victim shaming.. but some people interpret it as true love... I never understood that.. but to some people love give right to unleash your ugly side as they being the true love can handle all your side.. good and bad... other people can not do that as they are not true love.. Abhi can do whatever he wants and Ak should and will be able to handle it as she was/is(?) soul love..

And sadly.. Ak also believes it.. Ak still loves Abhi. Deep down Ak feels Abhi had the right to hurt her because he loves her so much.

She would never realize that there are people who would not hurt you when they are hurt just like when Nav was extremely hurt and was trying not to hurt Ak because of his pain out of respect for her.

I never understood that part.. does love give you right to hurt your loved ones?

Saving his wife from physical harm , I do count it as love but it's also basic human predicament..if it wasn't akshu under the table , n some normal patient , will abhimanyu not do the same ?at least try his best to save the person n not run away.. Will akshu not put her life on stake to save someone from physical harm ? Them doing it for each other is soul love but if akshu helps someone else out it becomes foolish.

Let's not pass on anger as some normal emotion onlh bec everyone gets angry ...losing one's sense and sensibility when angry is trouble....and realizing that they did wrong by reacting this way doesn't count as redemption its just the first step to redemption ..however repeatedly going through the same cycle will only bring misery to the 2 people involved.. .

@bold. It's quite the opposite actually.. see manjari and abhimanyu..true love..how can one person be diametrically opposite in his behavior unless he is a split personality ? Is he himself wth akshara or with manjari?

I said this before abhira married.. when it's world vs akshara , he will support akshara but when its manjari vs akshara , he will always choose manjari...I won't call that soul mate love..he can love two ppl at the same time but going above and beyond he's only done for manjari, he's understanding only for manjari , he never crosses the line with manjari...thatsthe reason he will be happy with aroo incase they marry..bec it really doesn't matter as long as manjari is happy.