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Posted: 3 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Deep_deep

Harsh words fall on deaf ears of Abhi regarding Akshara.. So if he is smart enough then run and should get hold of Akshara firsta, if something has to happen as per his wish..

Right now Akshara is the kamadhenu,, whoever holds her first gets their wish fulfilled.. Run Papa B.. Run...🤣🤣

Kya waqt agaya.. There was a day when Papa B had said that if needed he will drag Akshara to court to defend Abhi.. Poor fellow has to literally fall and beg for his son Abhi to Akshara now..


At the end of the day akshu is everyone favorite iccha kund deep. She will get all the kachara and give all the iccha.

Harsh laddu effect will be over by tomorrow maybe that is why ak knows the deal and gaurding abhi and his family already.

Posted: 3 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: aishapl013

Great one Hari

So first off from my side I felt like requesting others that not to loose hope on the series, its showing something extremely realistic content & actual struggles of the couples.

We need to maintain n spike the TRP cuz writers n CVs don't have any option to know whether we're liking what we watch, It is with TRP that they know.

N if the TRP is stable & doesn't increases causes them Writers to scrap the plot. N we have seen it multiple times now.

This track is also the one where Abhi shall understand what Akshu might have felt when u have to choose between ur Loved ones n ur Love.

Few months back Akshu had made a same choice with Aarohi n Abhi,

Now Abhi has the same one with Maa n Akshu,smiley42

As we have expected both will make different choices n shall see what will be the consequences of both, But they'll also teach what was to be expected out of each other in those situation.

Abhi should have pressed on Akshu while she chose Aarohi,

N same way with Abhi if choosing Akshu shall teach Akshu how unable was she to convince Abhi about his position in her life.

TBVH for the first time I'm not disappointed with Manish's stand, Ik this might seem selfish but for the first time I'm seeing Manish raw without any filter in regards to show his love for a grandchild.smiley27

He could never react with Aarohi being the one blaming Akshu cuz he didn't have a choice maybe, not at all promoting his unjust behavior. But now he has one n that's the other negative Birlas.

Similar to us he has also seen through Mahima n Anand who keeping plotting from bg unlike Harsh who comes out n plays head on.smiley39

Now it would be great to see how this Choices n Love help Abhira to flourish.

Manish speaking his mind out was great too especially he saying Akshu is special to him, that bonding was left to watch which writers completed today.


Nice points you have put out aisha.


Manish and abhi heart to heart talk was the best one. Him stating akshu to be his favorite and for the first time he actually was able to tell about this to someone. Akshu is his favorite yet he can't even show that in his own house for the mind of others taking it as favouritism. Hence its always him scolding aarohi and akshu together " Tum dono chup hoja ". Even their he couldn't openly save her.


Being a man of life experience he saw everything clearly and put this kind of condition in front of abhi. In a way if abhi accepted it or rejected it bade papa is still a winner in this. He can be assured abhi is a family man in a way or that abhi can go to any extend for akshu.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Mehersudha

half agreement with his mom he will go out but his mom ate ladoo so won't go away with him. Ak will reject the deal..

Ah..Thank you...Abhi serving food effect is less than manjari matha 🤪

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Posted: 3 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: hari15


You have described and connected whole season 2 with 3 beautifully.

Now Manish had become the official iccha kund. It gave me confession moment vibes where aarohi and abhi were running for akshu. Abhi ran and held akshu first and got his love. Now Manish came and abhi held him. Bechara harsh he started sweating the moment abhi held Manish. Not to forget his sweat only increased after that.


Manjari mata laduoo works faster than anything. He needs to run a lot of digest and get it out of his system. Very good he didn't drink that tea or else he would be gone.


Harsh and akshu are late in their running. Abhi already ran and won when he injected his medicine to bade papa.


I am loving this race as much as I loved the confession time abhi ran.


If only harsh had gone to goenka house first things would have been in his hands now he have to run more and plead in goenka gates for his son.

Matas half ladoo but affect is full on Harsh . If he drank tea he could have got diarrhoea next. Today sachinji rocked and Vinay Jain is superb in his all expressions. Harsh and Ak are late. Abhis nirjala vrat made him touch Manish first..if he ate something it could've backfired. Loving the whole convo and the tug of war along with running race for Ak .
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Posted: 3 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: hari15


At the end of the day akshu is everyone favorite iccha kund deep. She will get all the kachara and give all the iccha.

Harsh laddu effect will be over by tomorrow maybe that is why ak knows the deal and gaurding abhi and his family already.

Ladoo is first by Abhi positive character to manjari .so the affect is immediately smashed by Ak another positive character. If the ladoo is originally given by mataji to all whole family will be booked next for another khaand.
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Posted: 3 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: hari15


You have described and connected whole season 2 with 3 beautifully.

Now Manish had become the official iccha kund. It gave me confession moment vibes where aarohi and abhi were running for akshu. Abhi ran and held akshu first and got his love. Now Manish came and abhi held him. Bechara harsh he started sweating the moment abhi held Manish. Not to forget his sweat only increased after that.


Manjari mata laduoo works faster than anything. He needs to run a lot of digest and get it out of his system. Very good he didn't drink that tea or else he would be gone.


Harsh and akshu are late in their running. Abhi already ran and won when he injected his medicine to bade papa.


I am loving this race as much as I loved the confession time abhi ran.


If only harsh had gone to goenka house first things would have been in his hands now he have to run more and plead in goenka gates for his son.

I haven’t watched season 2 but thank you meher for showing me the connect.

So to sum up everyone’s POV:

Manish’s POV: put forth condition— this will secure ak future happiness but it is unfair to abhi.
Unless this is all his grand plan/scheme to test abhi and get Birlas to accept ak. If this is the case, then I will so “shaahtang namaskar” to him and will fall to his feet for his brilliance at playing this game of chess. 😂😂

Abhi’s POV: All he wants is ak. He declared in front of Mahadev that ak is his only goal from now on. But now he will realize it’s not as easy. Cause he wouldn’t want to cause pain to his loved ones (Manjari) for achieving his goal. May be he will understand ak dilemma.
Actually, I was reading a lot of other posts where people are saying that this condition puts abhi in ak shoes (sorry I don’t remember who all wrote it but a lot of members did). Contrary to those opinions, I feel that ak asked to choose between family and abhi is not the same as Abhi asked to choose between ak and Manjari. Let me explain… abhi loves Manjari and Neil. But for Manjari it’s not just love, I feel abhi thinks he needs to protect Manjari from harsh. That if he leaves Manjari by herself she will be all alone with no one by her side (remember in the drunken convo he was saying to ak, “Mein Bilkul Akela hu, ek maa hai par woh bhi akeli, bus hum ek doosre ka Sahara hai”. Abhi is madly in love with ak but at the same time he is very responsible and protective. So he feels he can’t leave Manjari but he can leave Neil though he loves him dearly since Neil can fend for himself. Now coming to ak, when she is asked to choose between abhi and family, her choice is simply her choice and no one is affected or left alone unprotected (except maybe abhi but he is a big boy, so it’s ok 🤷‍♀️)

Ak POV: for her, family is as important as love. And since she has accepted abhi as hers, his family is also her family. So she will not want to cause any pain to either family. She rather keep pain (ie delay in getting marriage approval) for herself (and indirectly abhi) rather than give pain to family.

When/if abhi agrees to Manish condition then may be ak will see the depth of abhi’s love for her and realize how she reacted in same situation earlier (when she rejected abhi for ar) and how much it would have hurt abhi and will understand his insecurities.

Harsh POV: Poor guy is put in a very bad position by Manish’s condition. He is doing everything to hold on to his son but the game is slipping from his hand. He has to realize that abhi and ak are one package (ek ke saath ek free) so he will need to accept ak if he wants abhi.

Just for fun, I have two suggestions for papa Birla to get back at Manish:

1) Harsh can come up with a condition of his own that requires kairav to leave Goenkas if he wants to marry Anisha. But this might not work and back fire because kairav is no “abhimanyu birla” and he will be like “ta ta bye bye anisha. It was nice knowing you” 😂😂😂

2) He can butter Ak and bond really really well with her so that Manish gets jealous of harsh-ak bond just like harsh is jealous of manish-abhi bond.. all the more fun for us- win win situation 😁😁😁


Ok now getting serious again;

The first race (abhi vs arohi for ak) when it started was obvious (abhi was literally running as if in a race) and it was easy to see as viewers. Abhi wins=ak as reward and if arohi wins = abhi as reward

This race (abhi vs harsh for Manish) is more subtle and needs a lot of thought to recognize what makers are trying to do. I understand that since abhi held Manish first, he accepted condition and as reward gets ak. But I still am not seeing what would have happened if harsh would have reached Manish first. Because for him, his reward should be “no ak” . so how would harsh reaching Manish first gotten him “no ak”???

Am i misunderstanding the whole race ??? 😢

Edited by Iforum435 - 3 years ago
Posted: 3 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: Iforum435

I haven’t watched season 2 but thank you meher for showing me the connect.

So to sum up everyone’s POV:

Manish’s POV: put forth condition— this will secure ak future happiness but it is unfair to abhi.
Unless this is all his grand plan/scheme to test abhi and get Birlas to accept ak. If this is the case, then I will so “shaahtang namaskar” to him and will fall to his feet for his brilliance at playing this game of chess. 😂😂

Abhi’s POV: All he wants is ak. He declared in front of Mahadev that ak is his only goal from now on. But now he will realize it’s not as easy. Cause he wouldn’t want to cause pain to his loved ones (Manjari) for achieving his goal. May be he will understand ak dilemma.
Actually, I was reading a lot of other posts where people are saying that this condition puts abhi in ak shoes (sorry I don’t remember who all wrote it but a lot of members did). Contrary to those opinions, I feel that ak asked to choose between family and abhi is not the same as Abhi asked to choose between ak and Manjari. Let me explain… abhi loves Manjari and Neil. But for Manjari it’s not just love, I feel abhi thinks he needs to protect Manjari from harsh. That if he leaves Manjari by herself she will be all alone with no one by her side (remember in the drunken convo he was saying to ak, “Mein Bilkul Akela hu, ek maa hai par woh bhi akeli, bus hum ek doosre ka Sahara hai”. Abhi is madly in love with ak but at the same time he is very responsible and protective. So he feels he can’t leave Manjari but he can leave Neil though he loves him dearly since Neil can fend for himself. Now coming to ak, when she is asked to choose between abhi and family, her choice is simply her choice and no one is affected or left alone unprotected (except maybe abhi but he is a big boy, so it’s ok 🤷‍♀️)

Ak POV: for her, family is as important as love. And since she has accepted abhi as hers, his family is also her family. So she will not want to cause any pain to either family. She rather keep pain (ie delay in getting marriage approval) for herself (and indirectly abhi) rather than give pain to family.

When/if abhi agrees to Manish condition then may be ak will see the depth of abhi’s love for her and realize how she reacted in same situation earlier (when she rejected abhi for ar) and how much it would have hurt abhi and will understand his insecurities.

Harsh POV: Poor guy is put in a very bad position by Manish’s condition. He is doing everything to hold on to his son but the game is slipping from his hand. He has to realize that abhi and ak are one package (ek ke saath ek free) so he will need to accept ak if he wants abhi.

Just for fun, I have two suggestions for papa Birla to get back at Manish:

1) Harsh can come up with a condition of his own that requires kairav to leave Goenkas if he wants to marry Anisha. But this might not work and back fire because kairav is no “abhimanyu birla” and he will be like “ta ta bye bye anisha. It was nice knowing you” 😂😂😂

2) He can butter Ak and bond really really well with her so that Manish gets jealous of harsh-ak bond just like harsh is jealous of manish-abhi bond.. all the more fun for us- win win situation 😁😁😁


Ok now getting serious again;

The first race (abhi vs arohi for ak) when it started was obvious (abhi was literally running as if in a race) and it was easy to see as viewers. Abhi wins=ak as reward and if arohi wins = abhi as reward

This race (abhi vs harsh for Manish) is more subtle and needs a lot of thought to recognize what makers are trying to do. I understand that since abhi held Manish first, he accepted condition and as reward gets ak. But I still am not seeing what would have happened if harsh would have reached Manish first. Because for him, his reward should be “no ak” . so how would harsh reaching Manish first gotten him “no ak”???

Am i misunderstanding the whole race ??? 😢


Manish had reached and put a condition in front of abhi now. What if abhi leaves. Harsh gets an heart attack and lies in hospital next. He knows his son will do anything for akshu.


Harsh did promise abhi once if akshu says yes he will go with shagun to goenka's himself. If only he had done what he promised his son, Manish would have agreed to it as it was harsh who came. In a way it meant harsh accepted akshu for abhi. Isn't it Manish first ever worry harsh not accepting. Things might have gone simple with little fights one of which is ak being mute.


Now makers have taken a route where one has to touch their nose with a twisted hand not straight one. Manish came with a condition harsh gets a jatka and waiting like a valcano to blow. Once this condition is out he will still go and stand in front of goenka's for akshu whether to scold her or ask for her hand he will still go their.



In all these at the end of the day his son wants akshu and what his son wants he will give him.


So at the end of the day abhi, harsh, Manish, aarohi and even when anisha came all are running for akshu hand be it straight or twisted way.

Edited by hari15 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: hari15


You have described and connected whole season 2 with 3 beautifully.

Now Manish had become the official iccha kund. It gave me confession moment vibes where aarohi and abhi were running for akshu. Abhi ran and held akshu first and got his love. Now Manish came and abhi held him. Bechara harsh he started sweating the moment abhi held Manish. Not to forget his sweat only increased after that.


Manjari mata laduoo works faster than anything. He needs to run a lot of digest and get it out of his system. Very good he didn't drink that tea or else he would be gone.


Harsh and akshu are late in their running. Abhi already ran and won when he injected his medicine to bade papa.


I am loving this race as much as I loved the confession time abhi ran.


If only harsh had gone to goenka house first things would have been in his hands now he have to run more and plead in goenka gates for his son.

Abhi was clever in injecting his wish and changing the heart of Bade papa. So he got what he wanted though with a condition, so he is calm and cool..

Its the turn of Harsh running now. But the question is whom should he run to Bade Papa or Akshara????🤣🤣Poor guy he is in that dilemma and hot and sweating over it. and best part is Manjeri is nowhere running to!!!! She is so calm and composed and sure of herself though in doubt. One thing is definite, she is not going to leave Harsh nor Birla for Abhi anytime.. Abhi needs to reassess the complete dynamics at Birla home and his priorities!!!

Me too loving this race Hari!!! Harsh must be cursing kis muharat mein Abhi met Akshara!! Sab isi ki wajah se he...As per him, He was so right in preferring Arohi!! Nobody would have cared and life would have been so much smoother for him..

Now all of them are in a roller coaster ride..

Posted: 3 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: Deep_deep

Abhi was clever in injecting his wish and changing the heart of Bade papa. So he got what he wanted though with a condition, so he is calm and cool..

Its the turn of Harsh running now. But the question is whom should he run to Bade Papa or Akshara????🤣🤣Poor guy he is in that dilemma and hot and sweating over it. and best part is Manjeri is nowhere running to!!!! She is so calm and composed and sure of herself though in doubt. One thing is definite, she is not going to leave Harsh nor Birla for Abhi anytime.. Abhi needs to reassess the complete dynamics at Birla home and his priorities!!!

Me too loving this race Hari!!! Harsh must be cursing kis muharat mein Abhi met Akshara!! Sab isi ki wajah se he...As per him, He was so right in preferring Arohi!! Nobody would have cared and life would have been so much smoother for him..

Now all of them are in a roller coaster ride..


Harsh should blame it on manjari yaar. If only she didn't call abhi in that ghat abhi won't have heard akshu singing and run behind his soul wala connection.


" Hey sab manjari ki waja se "


Now harsh is standing in the middle of the bridge not knowing which direction he should go.


Did you see manjari face she looked so cool when she asked about that condition and i almost got a vampire vibe from her. She is cool as cucumber. This condition it's like giving all of birla's specially abhi a reality check over his family life.


This is kind of exciting where I have hundreds of questions and waiting for it's answers.


Waiting for all the emotions of birla's to come out through this.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Iforum435

I haven’t watched season 2 but thank you meher for showing me the connect.

So to sum up everyone’s POV:

Manish’s POV: put forth condition— this will secure ak future happiness but it is unfair to abhi.
Unless this is all his grand plan/scheme to test abhi and get Birlas to accept ak. If this is the case, then I will so “shaahtang namaskar” to him and will fall to his feet for his brilliance at playing this game of chess. 😂😂

Abhi’s POV: All he wants is ak. He declared in front of Mahadev that ak is his only goal from now on. But now he will realize it’s not as easy. Cause he wouldn’t want to cause pain to his loved ones (Manjari) for achieving his goal. May be he will understand ak dilemma.
Actually, I was reading a lot of other posts where people are saying that this condition puts abhi in ak shoes (sorry I don’t remember who all wrote it but a lot of members did). Contrary to those opinions, I feel that ak asked to choose between family and abhi is not the same as Abhi asked to choose between ak and Manjari. Let me explain… abhi loves Manjari and Neil. But for Manjari it’s not just love, I feel abhi thinks he needs to protect Manjari from harsh. That if he leaves Manjari by herself she will be all alone with no one by her side (remember in the drunken convo he was saying to ak, “Mein Bilkul Akela hu, ek maa hai par woh bhi akeli, bus hum ek doosre ka Sahara hai”. Abhi is madly in love with ak but at the same time he is very responsible and protective. So he feels he can’t leave Manjari but he can leave Neil though he loves him dearly since Neil can fend for himself. Now coming to ak, when she is asked to choose between abhi and family, her choice is simply her choice and no one is affected or left alone unprotected (except maybe abhi but he is a big boy, so it’s ok 🤷‍♀️)

Ak POV: for her, family is as important as love. And since she has accepted abhi as hers, his family is also her family. So she will not want to cause any pain to either family. She rather keep pain (ie delay in getting marriage approval) for herself (and indirectly abhi) rather than give pain to family.

When/if abhi agrees to Manish condition then may be ak will see the depth of abhi’s love for her and realize how she reacted in same situation earlier (when she rejected abhi for ar) and how much it would have hurt abhi and will understand his insecurities.

Harsh POV: Poor guy is put in a very bad position by Manish’s condition. He is doing everything to hold on to his son but the game is slipping from his hand. He has to realize that abhi and ak are one package (ek ke saath ek free) so he will need to accept ak if he wants abhi.

Just for fun, I have two suggestions for papa Birla to get back at Manish:

1) Harsh can come up with a condition of his own that requires kairav to leave Goenkas if he wants to marry Anisha. But this might not work and back fire because kairav is no “abhimanyu birla” and he will be like “ta ta bye bye anisha. It was nice knowing you” 😂😂😂

2) He can butter Ak and bond really really well with her so that Manish gets jealous of harsh-ak bond just like harsh is jealous of manish-abhi bond.. all the more fun for us- win win situation 😁😁😁


Ok now getting serious again;

The first race (abhi vs arohi for ak) when it started was obvious (abhi was literally running as if in a race) and it was easy to see as viewers. Abhi wins=ak as reward and if arohi wins = abhi as reward

This race (abhi vs harsh for Manish) is more subtle and needs a lot of thought to recognize what makers are trying to do. I understand that since abhi held Manish first, he accepted condition and as reward gets ak. But I still am not seeing what would have happened if harsh would have reached Manish first. Because for him, his reward should be “no ak” . so how would harsh reaching Manish first gotten him “no ak”???

Am i misunderstanding the whole race ??? 😢

Manish if he has no plan of anything he is simply for Akshus happiness.He is selfish to ask Abhi that way to leave his house for Ak. He practically showed his elders are not interested in Ak. Last week too he told same infront of his house tumhara baap aur parivar jaha pe woh kush nahi rahegi. Manish is saving his kid from wrath as she never got respect from Harsh woh ladki, uss ladki, uss ladki ko ghaseetke lavunga, anapadegga all chavunism shown by Harsh. Abhi is fine with it but he loves his mom too. Him staying there is for her a reason always. He loves Manjari and saves her every time. If he has to leave the house he could have gone long back. So he can't agree to Manish. He is half in it again like Manish is half way. Keeping in Ak shoes is loving the family equally along with Abhi. So now Abhi will get on head how difficult it's to chose between loved ones. If Ar loved Abhi really Ak could never confess. That's her sacrificing power. Abhi loves both Ak amd Manjari so going for Ak leaving manjari is hard for him so deal won't go proper. Harsh will fight next when he knows all this. As they didn't consider Ani kv till now they can't talk about those deals. That time manish gets the rod by Birlas no doubt. Ak when she knows a this total deal will be flop and they are as it is. Seeing her chosing Birlas and standing for Abhi , Harsh will tone down and bend for Ak to retain his son .it's Harsh who promised that I will ask for Ak if she says yes. So he has to go that way to manish giving him reassurances taking her as bahu happily. Manjari will never leave Harsh anytime. Instead she will stay them together but Abhira won't agree for it. First step to bend dow between kids and see their true love for each other and families.

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